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brooklynite

(94,520 posts)
Fri Jun 24, 2022, 08:22 AM Jun 2022

Rep. Mike Kelly Accused of Helping Wisconsin Senator Hand over Slate of False Electors

Source: Erie News Now

Congressman Mike Kelly is accused of trying to help Sen. Ron Johnson hand former vice president Mike Pence a slate of false electors the day the U.S. Capitol was attacked.

In a radio interview Thursday, the Senator from Wisconsin says that a fake electors document meant to reach Pence allegedly originated from Kelly's office, but Kelly is denying this.

His spokesperson is calling these allegations "patently false" and adds the Congressman "has not spoken to Sen. Johnson for the better part of a decade, and he has no knowledge of the claims Mr. Johnson is making related to the 2020 election.”

This all came about after the January sixth committee investigating the Capitol attack say former president Donald Trump tried to get electors in some states to declare they were the correct members of the Electoral College.


Read more: https://www.erienewsnow.com/story/46753331/rep-mike-kelly-accused-of-helping-wisconsin-senator-hand-over-slate-of-false-electors
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Rep. Mike Kelly Accused of Helping Wisconsin Senator Hand over Slate of False Electors (Original Post) brooklynite Jun 2022 OP
Pick out the "weasel words" ewagner Jun 2022 #1
Yes, text messages / emails from Kelly to Johnson would not be "speaking". . . nt Bernardo de La Paz Jun 2022 #5
Exactly, ewagner. sybylla Jun 2022 #8
Moscow Ron can Dr. T Jun 2022 #2
I only want to hear from those two when they are under oath. SharonClark Jun 2022 #3
Beware... Hieronymus Phact Jun 2022 #4
Johnson is changing his story Botany Jun 2022 #6
Man, the rats and really jumping the ship, huh? SKKY Jun 2022 #7
And turning on each other. QED Jun 2022 #12
Fine, take the stand and swear it under oath. CanonRay Jun 2022 #9
"has not spoken to Sen. Johnson for the better part of a decade," KS Toronado Jun 2022 #10
Kelly's in the House, Johnson in the Senate Deminpenn Jun 2022 #13
"I see noth-ink." - The Sgt. Schultz defense Grins Jun 2022 #11
After having lived in his district, I would not trust Mike Kelly for anything. lees1975 Jun 2022 #14
The press should ask their secretary. I will just bet that she knows where it came from. flying_wahini Jun 2022 #15

ewagner

(18,964 posts)
1. Pick out the "weasel words"
Fri Jun 24, 2022, 08:35 AM
Jun 2022

first, the document "...allegedly originated from Kelly's office, but Kelly is denying this"

This gives Kelly the ability to use weasel words to blame it on his staff and deny any knowledge....

Next,

"...(Kelly) has not spoken to Sen. Johnson for the better part of a decade"

staff- to staff communication?


Can't trust these guys on any level...and as the heat gets raised, the lies and weasel words will become more common.

sybylla

(8,509 posts)
8. Exactly, ewagner.
Fri Jun 24, 2022, 10:09 AM
Jun 2022

I also love that Johnson is changing his story - two days ago it was "I know nothing." Now it's that this originated with someone else - not my fault, didn't know what was going on.

So much BS getting piled higher and deeper.

Edited to add that I am so thrilled that this mofo can't be replaced on the ballot. The beauty of these hearings is that nearly all of these treasonous cheese weasels are on the ballot and now have to run from a place of obvious and growing guilt.

BOOM!

Dr. T

(97 posts)
2. Moscow Ron can
Fri Jun 24, 2022, 08:40 AM
Jun 2022

add this to his "distinguished" resume. As a Wisconsinite, I've always asked myself why a millionaire would want a Senator's job that only pays what? $250,000 per year? The benefits he's reaped from his own legislation far outweighs the $250k. That's pocket change to him.

Hieronymus Phact

(369 posts)
4. Beware...
Fri Jun 24, 2022, 09:19 AM
Jun 2022

On trick employed by these people is to plant a damaging but false, or partially false story in the news. Then they spring some exculpatory evidence or something that proves some aspect of the story wrong, or casts legitimate doubt on it. Then they use that to muddy the waters and claim the whole thing is a which hunt and to further vilify the press.
See Dan Rather.

Botany

(70,501 posts)
6. Johnson is changing his story
Fri Jun 24, 2022, 09:52 AM
Jun 2022

2 days ago his story was:

Somebody that Ron Johnson or nobody on his staff knew brought a list of fake electors ....

.... to his office after which Ron Johnson's chief of staff called the Vice President's office and asked
Pence's chief of staff if he wanted it (the list of fake electors) and Pence's chief of staff said he didn't
want it and besides it was just the 1st day on the job for Johnson's chief of staff too.

Makes sense to me.

KS Toronado

(17,220 posts)
10. "has not spoken to Sen. Johnson for the better part of a decade,"
Fri Jun 24, 2022, 10:31 AM
Jun 2022

These guys not like each other? repugs usually stick together.

Deminpenn

(15,286 posts)
13. Kelly's in the House, Johnson in the Senate
Fri Jun 24, 2022, 12:29 PM
Jun 2022

Apparently the members of each chamber don't interact much with each other. And they're from 2 different states seperated by the Great Lakes.

That's why I find it very odd that Johnson said Kelly originated the memos that didn't even involve Pennsylvania. Maybe Kelly's was the first name that popped into Johnson's head.

Grins

(7,217 posts)
11. "I see noth-ink." - The Sgt. Schultz defense
Fri Jun 24, 2022, 10:44 AM
Jun 2022
"His spokesperson is calling these allegations "patently false," which, in Republican-speak, means it's absolutely true.

lees1975

(3,850 posts)
14. After having lived in his district, I would not trust Mike Kelly for anything.
Fri Jun 24, 2022, 10:38 PM
Jun 2022

Especially something like this. But, to be fair, until there is evidence, and Ron Johnson's word is not evidence, he's innocent until proven guilty.

flying_wahini

(6,591 posts)
15. The press should ask their secretary. I will just bet that she knows where it came from.
Sat Jun 25, 2022, 08:42 AM
Jun 2022

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