Supreme Court strikes down Roe v. Wade, which for nearly 50 years .. protected the right to abortion
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Supreme Court strikes down Roe v. Wade, which for nearly 50 years has protected the right to abortion
Supreme Court strikes down Roe v. Wade, ending right to abortion
10:19 a.m.
Supreme Court reaches decision in highly anticipated abortion case
10:18 a.m.
By Robert Barnes, Ann E. Marimow and John Wagner
Updated June 24, 2022 at 10:19 a.m. EDT * Published June 24, 2022 at 10:15 a.m. EDT
The Supreme Court has struck down Roe v. Wade, which for nearly 50 years has protected the right to abortion.
The decision in Dobbs v. Jackson Women's Health was the most anticipated of the court's term, with political tension surrounding the fight over abortion erupting in May with the leak of a draft opinion indicating a majority of justices intended to end the long-standing precedent.
The justices were considering a Mississippi law that would ban almost all abortions after 15 weeks of pregnancy. The law had not taken effect because lower courts said it was at odds with the right to abortion established in Roe v. Wade in 1973 and affirmed by subsequent Supreme Court rulings.
Those decisions held that states may not impose restrictions on a woman's right to terminate her pregnancy before viability -- the point when a fetus could survive outside the womb, usually around 24 weeks.
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By Robert Barnes
Robert Barnes has been a Washington Post reporter and editor since 1987. He joined The Post to cover Maryland politics, and he has served in various editing positions, including metropolitan editor and national political editor. He has covered the Supreme Court since November 2006. Twitter https://twitter.com/scotusreporter
By Ann Marimow
Ann Marimow covers legal affairs for The Washington Post. She joined The Post in 2005 and has covered state government and politics in California, New Hampshire and Maryland. Twitter https://twitter.com/amarimow
By John Wagner
John Wagner is a national reporter on The Post's new breaking political news team. He previously covered the Trump White House. During the 2016 presidential election, he focused on the Democratic campaigns of Hillary Clinton, Bernie Sanders and Martin O'Malley. He also chronicled Maryland government for more than a decade. Twitter https://twitter.com/WPJohnWagner
Read more: https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2022/06/24/supreme-court-abortion-ruling/
BREAKING: SUPREME COURT OVERTURNS ROE V WADE ON 6 TO 3 VOTE
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https://www.scotusblog.com/2022/06/announcement-of-opinions-for-friday-june-24/
https://www.supremecourt.gov/opinions/21pdf/19-1392_6j37.pdf
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We have Dobbs.
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Amy Howe
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Wow.
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Mark Walsh
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It is by Justice Alito.
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Amy Howe
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No real June surprise here.
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Mark Walsh
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Roberts concurs in the judgment.
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Amy Howe
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Breyer, Sotomayor and Kagan filed a dissenting opinion.
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Amy Howe
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MSNBC is slow to interrupt a discussion of immigration.
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Mark Walsh
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Roe and Casey are overruled.
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Amy Howe
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Here's the link: https://www.supremecourt.gov/opinions/21pdf/19-1392_6j37.pdf
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Ellena Erskine
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The "held" line of the syllabus does not bury the lede.
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Mark Walsh
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There is nothing in the Constitution about abortion, and the Constitution does not implicitly protect the right.
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Amy Howe
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"It is time to heed the Constitution and return the issue of abortion to the people's elected representatives."
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Amy Howe
NBC and ABC have broken into regular programming, but like yesterday, CBS still with "Let's Make a Deal"
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Seeking Serenity
(2,840 posts)SoFloDenny
(58 posts)Obergefell is next.
Let's see:
1. Guns
2. Abortion
3. Marriage
4. Coups
5. .........
If only....Hillary!
Pete Ross Junior
(404 posts)I'm not one to "blame everything" on Trump, but this is 100% on him.
It's Trump's court.
Bengus81
(6,933 posts)Something like it would stay the "law of the land" or some such??
LYING FUCKERS.................
calimary
(81,507 posts)Kavanaugh, Gorsuch, and Barrett. Three blind lice. They were asked. They bobbed and weaved, as we used to say in sparring class.
Women will die.
What a shitty thing to wake up to.
Polybius
(15,489 posts)This should have been a bigger deal during the hearings.
Magoo48
(4,720 posts)we the grassroots are responsible for retaining our freedoms and Democracy. Or Not!
The fix will not come from the top; our system is crippled by corruption right now.
Massive, grassroots-movement coalitions which allow courageous leaders to rise and speak of radical ideals of extensive human rights guarantees, restructured politics and economies, and where everyone gets a living wage to flourish. This is a tall order for a society which does not like to be inconvenienced. If we do not demand the freedoms rightly ours, precisely, consistently, in mass. They will,all disappear.
azureblue
(2,152 posts)was impose a religious law upon America. The whole anti abortion dogma is based upon a religious belief, and not even one from the Bible. In fact the Bible says that life begins at first breath, and says when it is OK to abort.
So:
This contradicts the laws of other religions. IOW the SC favors one religion over another with this ruling
The ruling is built on states' right, so now, the court cannot turn around and impose federal laws about gun control on the states.
The SC is going to get its ass kicked when the states sue it. This is the beginning of the end of the GOP
calimary
(81,507 posts)Gee whiz - does it matter if you vote?
If THIS isnt enough to convince somebody about that, our country is truly a lost cause.
dalton99a
(81,598 posts)melm00se
(4,996 posts)Held: The Constitution does not confer a right to abortion...
Samrob
(4,298 posts)There is one solution to this issue:
propose and ratify an amendment covering abortion.
Once it becomes enshrined in the Constitution, sweeps aside this statement:
Held: The Constitution does not confer a right to abortion...
Master_Monstruwacan
(71 posts)Why didn't they?
wryter2000
(46,082 posts)Lithos
(26,404 posts)To answer the ratification question - just ask the similar question - today could you get 2/3rd of the Senate to agree to it.
L-
AntiFascist
(12,792 posts)Botany
(70,588 posts)Vote Blue in twenty twenty two.
hay rick
(7,643 posts)Please work to insure a huge turnout.
turbinetree
(24,720 posts)society security, Medicare......expand the courts.....
malthaussen
(17,217 posts)Obergefell v Hodges is obviously toast, too. If not this session, then soon.
-- Mal
turbinetree
(24,720 posts)say that all the seniors don't need Medicare because that agency should be dismantled and turned over to the states, because we don't need a Congress delegating expertise for seniors needs and creating an agency for their needs and protection, we, the states know what is best for them....because this ruling basically says that ....for everything...
geardaddy
(24,931 posts)U.S. Supreme Court rules against DaVita over dialysis coverage
In a 7-2 decision authored by conservative Justice Brett Kavanaugh, the court ruled that Marietta Memorial Hospital's employee health plan did not violate federal law by limiting benefits for outpatient dialysis because it did so without regard to whether patients had end-stage renal disease. A lower court had ruled in favor of Denver-based DaVita.
As a transplant patient, I may be fucked if I ever have to go on dialysis.
Marthe48
(17,031 posts)A relative works for DaVita.
geardaddy
(24,931 posts)I had a transplant nearly 30 years ago, so I'm expecting that I'll need dialysis at some point in the future.
Marthe48
(17,031 posts)My best friend had a kidney transplant almost 6 years ago. I was her caretaker and spent a lot of time at Cleveland Clinic during her surgery and recovery. I chatted with people who had had a transplant that failed, and they were getting or had gotten another organ. Maybe the insurance coverage is better now. I just read that there is a new transplant method which might not need lifelong anti-rejection meds. And I read awhile back there is a mechanical kidney that is either very promising or on the market.
Best of luck to you. It is a tough health problem.
MMH didn't have very good employee ins. I worked there for a couple of years, and opted to stay on my husband's ins.
geardaddy
(24,931 posts)My mom is my donor and she'd over 90 now! And she's got good genes. So, knock on wood, the kidney will keep working for a while.
littlemissmartypants
(22,819 posts)TeamProg
(6,250 posts)TeamProg
(6,250 posts)SKKY
(11,823 posts)Trump won the election by 87K votes. 87K VOTES!!! Fuck off, and kindly stay fucked off.
jonstl08
(412 posts)Hope all those people who did not like Hillary and either voted for Trump or did not vote are happy now. Know a lot of them who said if anybody else would have been the nominee they would have voted for that person instead of Trump.
SKKY
(11,823 posts)Hugh_Lebowski
(33,643 posts)Not that this factoid does anything but confirm your thesis, but it's interesting to note
SKKY
(11,823 posts)Alito, Gorsich, Comey-Barret, and Kavanaugh were all nominated to the SC by a president who lost the popular vote. Just sayin...
MarcA
(2,195 posts)another of our anti-democratic peculiar institutions, the electoral college, ignored that. The Constitution Can, and Is, being used to destroy Democracy and the Nation.
OMGWTF
(3,976 posts)Thanks to Putin.
k8conant
(3,030 posts)Wondering.
SKKY
(11,823 posts)onetexan
(13,061 posts)Loki Liesmith
(4,602 posts)Not a lot. But definitely a small piece.
BonnieJW
(2,272 posts)She should have stepped down during Obama
Omnipresent
(5,722 posts)She didnt want to step down when she should have, so for her part or selfishness, we are all going to pay the price.
wryter2000
(46,082 posts)And self-involved.
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berniesandersmittens
(11,345 posts)Thank you.
wryter2000
(46,082 posts)Good grief, y'all let the swipe at her stand, but when I respond with obvious sarcasm to it, you go after me.
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berniesandersmittens
(11,345 posts)Emotional day. I miss RBG
wryter2000
(46,082 posts)She was a giant in a tiny body.
Omnipresent
(5,722 posts)How soon we all forget.
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Omnipresent
(5,722 posts)What are you trying to say, but cant?
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Omnipresent
(5,722 posts)Im glad you finally said it.
Have a great weekend!
wryter2000
(46,082 posts)How soon we all forget
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wryter2000
(46,082 posts)That Obama would never have gotten anyone with her philosophy through the Senate.
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wryter2000
(46,082 posts)Sorry I caused you pain before.
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Polybius
(15,489 posts)That's good enough, and better than Gorsuch.
wryter2000
(46,082 posts)I thought you'd get that from the context. I was responding so someone who'd made her look shallow.
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wryter2000
(46,082 posts)I was beginning to think I was the only one who didn't enjoy ragging on RBG.
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Hekate
(90,828 posts)wryter2000
(46,082 posts)Glad you caught it.
Hekate
(90,828 posts)roscoeroscoe
(1,370 posts)So much for the Notorious RBG... gotta know when to leave the stage
cilla4progress
(24,774 posts)system...
She probably thought we were on an upward trajectory, like the rest of us did.
Can never take ANYTHING for granted!!
JohnSJ
(92,418 posts)the issue
What did they think would happen?
Blaming it, even a little bit on RBG, ignores the fact that McConnell had successfully blocked President Obamas Court appointment, and also ignores the fact that enough people didnt care about this issue in critical swing states to vote for Hillary
The only way those people who refused to vote for Hillary in 2016 by either not voting, or voting third party is to vote Democratic every subsequent election, until we can overturn these draconian SC decisions
In the meantime, states like California are moving to help those from backward states who want an abortion, to help provide access for all women with the right to choose
wryter2000
(46,082 posts)Hekate
(90,828 posts)onetexan
(13,061 posts)XanaDUer2
(10,751 posts)Lonestarblue
(10,084 posts)Just as he did with Merrick Garland. Im sure that RBG knew this.
Polybius
(15,489 posts)But RGB shouldn't have to retire until she was ready, that I agree with.
Loki Liesmith
(4,602 posts)Last edited Sat Jun 25, 2022, 01:18 AM - Edit history (1)
And it would be wise to.
wryter2000
(46,082 posts)Whatever happened to the puke smiley?
Loki Liesmith
(4,602 posts)Invoking RBGs legacy right now isnt that helpful either. The post was a response to that.
Polybius
(15,489 posts)Torchlight
(3,361 posts)Quite vague, but I'd guess many opinions, by necessity of appearance, are also.
clementine613
(561 posts)It still would have been a 5-4 decision.
FBaggins
(26,760 posts)But not to get rid of the recognition of a right to choose.
A huge difference when the overwhelming majority of abortions occur before that 15 week line but many states will now move the line up far beyond that (or outlaw the practice entirely)
wilson2792
(6 posts)She should have retired when Obama was President. She is partly responsible for this decision.
wryter2000
(46,082 posts)But let's do find a woman to blame
JohnSJ
(92,418 posts)a year, and those so-called progressives who refused to vote for Hillary in 2016 by either voting third party, or not voting in those critical swing states
Hillary lost by less than 1% in those critical swing states, while Jill Stein received 1% of the vote in those swing states. It didnt take much.
and of course we should not forget 2000 with Ralph Nader and the Green Party
This was entirely predictable, and it had nothing to do with RBG
The SC was at stake in 2016, and enough people didnt care
Loki Liesmith
(4,602 posts)Own it.
wryter2000
(46,082 posts)And Im not responsible for any of this. But WTG being collegial.
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FBaggins
(26,760 posts)Response to wilson2792 (Reply #86)
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Hekate
(90,828 posts)We are not doing grave-dancing on Ruth Bader Ginsberg
wryter2000
(46,082 posts)And I've been flailing for over an hour.
Hekate
(90,828 posts)berniesandersmittens
(11,345 posts)Blame McConnell who refused to let Obama pick a justice
Blame Kennedy for retiring and letting dump pick a justice
Blame christofascists
Blame the gop
Blame the federalist society
But do not place blame on our heroes. Especially RBG.
The Grand Illuminist
(1,336 posts)I don't see any other peaceful alternative. Unless I am missing something.
Hekate
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TeamProg
(6,250 posts)PRIVACY may have also been thrown out the window.
xxqqqzme
(14,887 posts)rethug politicians.
honest.abe
(8,685 posts)BumRushDaShow
(129,526 posts)The Supreme Court has struck down Roe v. Wade, which for nearly 50 years has protected the right to abortion.
The decision in Dobbs v. Jackson Womens Health was the most anticipated of the courts term, with political tension surrounding the fight over abortion erupting in May with the leak of a draft opinion indicating a majority of justices intended to end the long-standing precedent.
The justices were considering a Mississippi law that would ban almost all abortions after 15 weeks of pregnancy. The law had not taken effect because lower courts said it was at odds with the right to abortion established in Roe v. Wade in 1973 and affirmed by subsequent Supreme Court rulings.
Those decisions held that states may not impose restrictions on a womans right to terminate her pregnancy before viability the point when a fetus could survive outside the womb, usually around 24 weeks.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2022/06/24/supreme-court-abortion-ruling/
Comfortably_Numb
(3,827 posts)Shithole country. If I wanted to be a gd catholic I would become a gd catholic. Fuck these lying zealots.
nycbos
(6,038 posts)Asking for a friend?
no it's not.
Backseat Driver
(4,399 posts)We have Safe Harbor for babies in this state! Firemen better arrange to put out more bassinets!
nycbos
(6,038 posts)Last edited Sat Jun 25, 2022, 11:11 AM - Edit history (1)
My "friend" is me. I am a proud male supporter of choice and I am extremely depressed by the news.
Backseat Driver
(4,399 posts)nycbos
(6,038 posts)AngryOldDem
(14,061 posts)The potential ramifications of this in terms of womens reproduction are staggering.
Fuck the lying SCOTUS and fuck this country.
wryter2000
(46,082 posts)bucolic_frolic
(43,305 posts)Reality turned on its head. We are a nation of SCOTUS lies.
wnylib
(21,613 posts)when the Supreme Court rulings themselves are unconstitutional?
Expanding the court just makes it likely that the fascists will also expand it when they have the WH and Congress.
But, since this was an originalist decision, let's go back to the original number of SC members, which was 6. Make the last 3 appointments invalid and remove them.
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malthaussen
(17,217 posts)The more charitable have been going through all sorts of contortions to try to prove that Mr Justice Roberts is concerned with his "legacy," and preserving the integrity of the Court. But here he makes sure to vote with the reactionaries, not casting a symbolic dissent because he knows the decision will pass anyway. I submit that tells us where his real sympathies lie.
-- Mal
xxqqqzme
(14,887 posts)before he is a Chief Justice.
I never believed that 'integrity' BS. It was always intended for media consumption and repetition.
wryter2000
(46,082 posts)I didn't think he'd go along.
purr-rat beauty
(543 posts)Half of those GOP cucks don't even belong there
jmowreader
(50,562 posts)It does have a meaning which doesnt apply here, and its the fascist rights favorite insult.
Bastards or fuckheads work just as well.
Hav
(5,969 posts)Strange how you are upset about one insult but then propose another insult that is actually directed against an innocent party.
BumRushDaShow
(129,526 posts)WASHINGTON The Supreme Court on Friday overruled Roe v. Wade, eliminating the constitutional right to abortion after almost 50 years in a decision that will transform American life, reshape the nations politics and lead to all but total bans on the procedure in about half of the states.
The ruling will test the legitimacy of the court and vindicate a decades-long Republican project of installing conservative justices prepared to reject the precedent, which had been repeatedly reaffirmed by earlier courts. It will also be one of the signal legacies of President Donald J. Trump, who vowed to name justices who would overrule Roe. All three of his appointees were in the majority in the 6-to-3 ruling.
The decision, which echoed a leaked draft opinion published by Politico in early May, will result in a starkly divided country in which abortion is severely restricted or forbidden in many red states but remains freely available in most blue ones. Chief Justice John G. Roberts Jr. voted with the majority but said he would have taken a more measured course, stopping short of overruling Roe outright. The courts three liberal members dissented.
The case, Dobbs v. Jackson Womens Health Organization, No. 19-1392, concerned a law enacted in 2018 by the Republican-dominated Mississippi Legislature that banned abortions if the probable gestational age of the unborn human was determined to be more than 15 weeks. The statute, a calculated challenge to Roe, included narrow exceptions for medical emergencies or a severe fetal abnormality. Mississippis sole abortion clinic sued, saying the law ran afoul of Roe and Planned Parenthood v. Casey, the 1992 decision that affirmed Roes core holding.
https://www.nytimes.com/live/2022/06/20/us/roe-wade-abortion-supreme-court/roe-wade-overturned-supreme-court
Paladin
(28,275 posts)Joinfortmill
(14,465 posts)hauckeye
(635 posts)madville
(7,412 posts)I live in a red state, majority of women I know/am related to are adamantly pro-life, already seen some celebrating on Facebook.
Bengus81
(6,933 posts)No they had plenty to drink,and gangs,deaths etc all from that idiot law. Abortion will continue,and no longer be safe. There will be deaths but they don't care.
The Grand Illuminist
(1,336 posts)People of courage.
Paladin
(28,275 posts)The kind of anger and strategy the Republicans have been employing, for the last 50 years. This is what Democrats get, for playing with a set of obsolete good conduct rules for the last 50 years.
The Grand Illuminist
(1,336 posts)They are will sacrifice their own for their authoritive vision, has been done since Reagan.
paleotn
(17,989 posts)At the ballot box in November. Beat every single, solitary Republican candidate over the head with this...and gun violence.
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The Grand Illuminist
(1,336 posts)nt
Scalded Nun
(1,240 posts)I doubt they would be charged with perjury anyway.
Again, I say...to all those who vote maybe every 4 years and not in any local, state or off-year federal elections - FUCK YOU!
This is just the tip. There is a freight train coming and it is going to roll over anyone it wants to. To the red state citizens...Enjoy the moment. You will eventually be lined up in its cross-hairs as well. Then whatcha gonna do?
Volaris
(10,274 posts)Waiting with baited breath to hear from Concerned Susan Collins. When I do, the ONLY thing we had better hear are the words 'I'm so sorry, and I resign'.
Botany
(70,588 posts)6 Justices who should not be on the court
Roberts see bush v Gore
Alito see bush v Gore & OH 2004
Thomas see Anita Hill
Gorsch see Mitch McConnell and Russia 2016
Kavanaugh see Russia 2016 and the FBI not investigating the 4,000 + tips about his behavior
Amy Coney Island see Russia 2016 see 2020 election was going on at the time ... the same reason McConnell gave for
blocking Merrick Garland
The Heritage Foundation/Judicial Crisis Network have been working on packing the courts for years so the
minority can control the majority.
KPN
(15,661 posts)personalities of the two parties. The Rethugs are rat fuckers. What does that make us? To them, patsies.
This is so fucking frustrating.
Botany
(70,588 posts)n/t
KPN
(15,661 posts)can ultimately maintain an expand that power, even when overtly cheating.
.
Frustrating and infuriating. Their goal is to roll back to the 1920s.
Aviation Pro
(12,187 posts).....
Algernon Moncrieff
(5,790 posts)The reality is people vote their pocketbooks. People won't get angry about this until we've had a decade of horror stories.
paleotn
(17,989 posts)The Million Women March and Trump hadn't done anything yet other than talk.
mahatmakanejeeves
(57,618 posts)Please add links to other media outlets.
Thanks.
Joinfortmill
(14,465 posts)Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin
(108,218 posts)GB_RN
(2,384 posts)Her "concern" went out the window five seconds after the last reporter left her office.
paleotn
(17,989 posts)The southern half of Maine won't stand for it. Up north in tater land? Who cares. It will be nearly empty by then other than a few, stray tater farmers.
turbinetree
(24,720 posts)hands of the state representatives for a reason.....it was because of the privacy issue for that person, that person was named Roe instead of Doe, which is in the Constitution jerk, she had a right to privacy....or does this comment from you and your religious doctrine say other wise....oh yeah, your ilk say's that the separation of church and state should also be dismantled....
Justice Samuel Alito declared, It is time to heed the Constitution and return the issue of abortion to the peoples elected representatives.
Your federalist society court has awaken a sleeping giant.......
LiberalArkie
(15,729 posts)BumRushDaShow
(129,526 posts)but just like what almost torpedoed the ACA thanks to Bart Stupak and the radical anti-women nuts, there are still too many anti-choice Democrats out there.
iscooterliberally
(2,863 posts)They all lied under oath on video before the entire country to get their jobs. They should be removed from the court. I know that won't happen, but they just trashed the supreme court with their lies.
WestMichRad
(1,340 posts)Theres a lot more damage that they plan to do. Lots of work needed for them to return us to 18th century law, ya know.
frogmarch
(12,159 posts)The Supreme Court is nothing but an extension of the republican party!
paleotn
(17,989 posts)NY State intends to ignore them on guns. I'm all for it. If a Republican Congress takes Dobbs, runs with it and outlaws reproductive rights, nullify it. I know, I'm being inconsistent, but I don't give a shit.
If there was one shred of doubt Proposal 5 would pass in VT this year, forget it. It's a shoe in and will enshrine reproductive rights in the VT Constitution. Now, Repulitrash, come take it!!
Think Alito is bad. Roger Taney, chief justice of SCOTUS actually wrote the Dred Scott decision.
bucolic_frolic
(43,305 posts)Seeking Serenity
(2,840 posts)The Dred Scott decision? James Buchanan was president when that decision came down. I'm confused.
paleotn
(17,989 posts)led by Chief Justice Roger Taney, a Marylander and southern sympathizer who refused to resign and tried to tie Lincoln's hands in time of civil war in ways that would benefit the Confederacy. Particularly with regard to habeas corpus and other issues. Lincoln countered with non-acquiescence. and ignored the court's rulings until Taney finally just gave up.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nonacquiescence
Taney died in 1864. There was such bad blood between them that Lincoln refused to even mention Taney's passing or attend his funeral. Unusual for the time and certainly for Lincoln. He replaced him by appointing Salmon P. Chase. That and 4 other Lincoln appointments turned the court from night to day.
Dred Scott became mute by the 14th Amendment.
In short, history may not repeat, but it does rhyme. We've been here before in many ways.
Seeking Serenity
(2,840 posts)xxqqqzme
(14,887 posts)for Women's reproductive rights
paleotn
(17,989 posts)Back then African Americans were citizens in some northern states, chattel throughout the south. Whole lot of parallels in my mind.
minstrel76
(83 posts)Now that this has finally happened, I have something to get off my chest: To everyone who didn't vote for Hillary Clinton in 2016: You are to blame for this. That is all.
Traildogbob
(8,821 posts)Seems focused on showing exhilaration of (PRO life???) people high fiving and cheering the decision. Many many women. And for fucks sake, men. I am not so sure this will become a slam dunk for Dems in the mids. What the Court has done in a few weeks, and watch whats coming, birth control, mixed race marriage guns guns guns and government funded Jesus education is just firing up the right. Add in the voter suppression and electoral turnover for Dem
Wins, Im not so sure we can ever win against. Take off the gloves, get ready to get dirty and fuck ever saying friends across the aisle, ever again. Any friend of mine is not actively out to destroy democracy and welcome fascism and woman control. The fight of our life, much more important than any war I served through. I stand with the women of choice, sick of those women cheering other women losing their rights. Almost hope they
.never mind. Keep that to myself.
Marthe48
(17,031 posts)Like a continuous Jerry Springer show. I don't watch either. F**K them all.
Traildogbob
(8,821 posts)And Andrea Mitchell. Fuck them with a chain saw with a crooked chain bar and Rusty chain with a 30 bar, and no bar oil. Slowly.
TNNurse
(6,929 posts)Women will still have abortions, many will die from it. Women who have been told it is too risky to continue a pregnancy will die. Babies that cannot survive after birth will suffer until they do.
This court (and I will not use the S word in front of that) have decided that a group of cells unable to survive outside a woman's body is more important than the woman.
Is the fact they did this the day after the gun vote in the Senate surprising?????
Rapists and those who commit incest won....women are lower class citizens...they (not me I am too old) have no rights to their own bodies.
When I was in college...before Roe, I contributed money so a classmate could travel to another state for an abortion.
I have a lot more money now....
suegeo
(2,573 posts)Ward of the state.
Supreme Court Clerics appointed by republicans who didn't win their elections.
One, Putin's puppet.
States can do whatever they want to women.
I hate republicans.
I AM SHIT THROWING ANGRY.
rurallib
(62,450 posts)bucolic_frolic
(43,305 posts)Today's ruling is insane in so many ways? We need to litigate? There are lawyers that can turn these arguments on their ears
Marthe48
(17,031 posts)Back to the back alley.
And stock up on morning after pills. Or learn about herbals.
https://academicworks.cuny.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=1146&context=gj_etds
plimsoll
(1,670 posts)So gee thanks.
raccoon
(31,126 posts)SleeplessinSoCal
(9,145 posts)Oh yeah. SCOTUS also ended voting rights.
The radical right is so pious and brazenly unconstitutional.
Lucky Luciano
(11,260 posts)YoshidaYui
(41,862 posts)AllyCat
(16,227 posts)liberalmuse
(18,672 posts)Both need to go.
Duppers
(28,127 posts)dixiechiken1
(2,113 posts)Fuck them all straight to motherfucking hell.
Motherfucking motherfuckers.
bahboo
(16,359 posts)hopefully the blowback will be very intense. If this doesn't GOTV, I don't know what will....
frogmarch
(12,159 posts)RevBrotherThomas
(838 posts)"...we should consider all of this Court's substantive due process precedents, including Griswold Lawrence and Obergefell."
I wonder why the good Justice didn't include "Loving v Virginia" in this list.
Odd...
Volaris
(10,274 posts)Denvermosaic
(120 posts)CaptainTruth
(6,602 posts)I will note that yesterday SCOTUS also ruled that everyone has a right to concealed carry a gun, so every protester in front of every place a SCOTUS justice goes has the to be armed. Consequences of their own actions.
lambchopp59
(2,809 posts)"With the first link, the chain is forged. The first speech censured, the first thought forbidden, the first freedom denied, chains us all irrevocably."
Jeri Taylor via "Captain Jean-Luc Picard"
How many have to get gobsmacked with reality- finding fetuses in dumpsters, unintentional suicides via coat hanger, incalculable damages like these to bear all over again. "Pro-life" can only rejoice with blinders on.
harun
(11,348 posts)Conservatives on both sides of the aisle.
bullwinkle428
(20,631 posts)experienced in my life.
Marthe48
(17,031 posts)because the fight made money for people on both sides of the fence. I thought that made sense. This ruling just reinforces my belief that the r.w.n.j who made this ruling are not fit to be on the bench. The entire majority (6) are unfit to judge a pie contest, let alone what the U.S. Constitution means. F**K all 6.
Get rid of the 3 illegally seated robe fillers, and the hopelessly compromised 4th. What the hell, get rid of all of the liars. Or expand the court and dilute their vitriol.
d_b
(7,463 posts)If you let them. Dem leadership needs to stop fucking around and make a decision: confront this fascism or surrender to it.
AllaN01Bear
(18,432 posts)lying hacks .
mwb970
(11,366 posts)Now what? In an instant the republican party lost its #1 unifying issue, leaving only unlimited guns, guns, guns to hold the party together. Meanwhile, they have handed the Democrats their best unifying issue in many and many a year. Maybe they will do the same with guns!
About 10% of the public and about 66% of the Supreme Court wanted Roe overturned. Minority rule has scored another victory. May it be short-lived.
Vinca
(50,309 posts)"both parties are the same so I'm not going to vote."
BlueJac
(7,838 posts)Frauds.
Deminpenn
(15,290 posts)The vast majority of women aren't going back. Oh, there are the ultra religious women, but they are a minority. Those suburban women the GOP wants back? Kiss them goodbye.
I think this decision nearly guarantees Dems will not only keep, but expand their majority in the House and get the extra votes needed to end the filibuster in the Senate. Once that happens, Biden will expand SCOTUS to 13, 1 for each of the 13 US circuit courts, legislation making abortion legal will pass and the country will be set on a path forward to a better future.
AncientOfDays
(164 posts)eventually it will require a Constitutional Amendment. This court or a court like it will find some pretext to negate or overturn any legislation guaranteeing a right to abortion. It won't be easy - it took 11 years and a war to go from Dred Scott to citizenship for blacks.
But let's hope (and work for) the scenario you posit.
Deminpenn
(15,290 posts)Jmho, but too many refuse to recognize the strong libertarian streak in Americans. Most of the time it's dormant, but there are times when that "you're not telling me what to do" attitude really kicks in. This, to me, is one of them.
Heck, even Trump believes overturning Roe hurts Rs
cstanleytech
(26,319 posts)YoshidaYui
(41,862 posts)dlk
(11,578 posts)They will ultimately lose this war. American women are not going back.
Martin68
(22,890 posts)embarrassing. Quoting witch burners exposed the true source of the forced-birth movement.
csziggy
(34,138 posts)amb123
(1,581 posts)Farmer-Rick
(10,212 posts)They are the ones who think their imaginary daddy in the sky gives human zygotes magical powers and special privileges to use an autonomous adult's body against their will. Though their magical stories don't really say that....if they ever bother to read their bible and not just listen to their TV billionaire thieving preachers.
This is what happens when religion is allowed to force their magical, supernatural, made up crap onto everyone.
Bunch of superstitious monkeys making up stories about things their tiny brains can't understand. And a lot of them still sit on the US Supremely Religious Court.
paulkienitz
(1,296 posts)Blue Owl
(50,507 posts)ultralite001
(894 posts)Like a magician on stage, the Supreme Court has used some serious misdirection to upstage the findings
of the Jan 6 committee...
The Court has employed the dead cat strategy (During an awkward dinner party conversation, toss a dead cat
into the mix. Folks will be outraged, but the subject will successfully be changed).
RTump had a knack for producing dead cats whenever he wanted, and the Supreme Court has become one of the RTumpster's kitties... and has overturned Roe v Wade...
Organizing against the Court's decision re: Roe... will take time, energy, money, and people power... Organizing
to get out the vote, state by state... will take time, energy, money, and people power... Time that will draw attention
away from investigation of the RTumpster's attempts to seize absolute power over each and every American citizen.
America must not lose sight of what is at stake... America must not be taken in by the opposition's patter. This is not
simply legal sleight of hand... It is not a simple matter of women losing their right to choose...
Democracy, the rule of law, and the right of each and every American to determine its own destiny is imperiled...
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Lanius
(601 posts)You know, many of these folks just couldnt vote for Clinton because she was no different than Trump in their delusional minds.
At the same time, I really hope this motivates the voters to turn out in November to keep the House and Senate in Democratic hands.
electric_blue68
(14,946 posts)(of course, I know it's been like that for some women previously 😔 )
Roisin Ni Fiachra
(2,574 posts)We need to quarantine them from poser by voting them from office everywhere.
Lil Liberal Laura
(228 posts)Was it worth your souls?
electric_blue68
(14,946 posts)...to, or if to have children!
Fuck you McConnell for preventing Obama's nominee, 2016 third party voters, "they're the same" voters, non voters, Drumph, and his sCourt nominees!!!
Arrrrggggg!
IronLionZion
(45,534 posts)elect enough Dems to codify it into law and then approve liberal judges next time we have that opportunity.
Bayard
(22,157 posts)To distract from the Jan. 6 hearings?
Okay. So, what's the process for increasing the number on the SC?
Wednesdays
(17,412 posts)Get. Out. The. Vote.
BrightKnight
(3,567 posts)trusty elf
(7,402 posts)The Jungle 1
(4,552 posts)Fascism is a form of far-right, authoritarian ultranationalism, characterized by dictatorial power, forcible suppression of opposition, and strong regimentation of society and the economy. wiki
olegramps
(8,200 posts)It is the result of the Republicans embracement of the Protestant Fundamentalists and Catholic who are basically loyal papalists who are in minority but are a powerful block due to their solidarity. As was remarked, they are "useful idiots" who the Republicans have embraced solely to win elections. They are the ones who show up to vote and have effectively negated Democratic candidates especially in local off year elections.
I attended four local fundamentalists church services to gain some understanding of their importance. Basically, you are unwanted if you don't support Republican candidates who promised to represent their beliefs. The fundamentalists are gaining in membership at the expense of more moderate Catholics and Protestant adherents. I can attest from my experience as a Catholic who attended Catholic schools through high school, that those who remained in the church, for the most part, were stanchly and blindly loyal to the church's doctrine without question. Amy Coney is a prime example of their unquestionable adherence to Catholic doctrines dictated by the hierarchy. They are determined to hang on as millions of Catholics headed for the door when the hierarchy demanded strict compliance with the church's medieval mentality in regard to sexual teachings. Take my family for example. I have twenty-three nieces and nephews, most of whom attended Catholic schools through high school, of which only two still active church members.
lambchopp59
(2,809 posts)Like conservatives needed something to move the headlines to some other hot button issue. 1/6 hearings getting a little too uncomfortably close to home?
Gee, what could their good friends on the court do about that?
pfitz59
(10,391 posts)Her generation never had to resort to it.
Shoonra
(523 posts)Has anyone bothered to compare the final version of the Dobbs decision with the 'February' version that was leaked two monnths ago??
Any changes between the February draft and the final version might be significant.
Clarence Thomas is right, Alito is wrong, that overruling Roe v. Wade and rejecting the notion of a constitutional right of privacy opens up contraception, same sex intimacy and same sex marriage to re-evaluation and possible prohibition.
The Republican Party has turned completely around since 1964 when Barry Goldwater was a member of Planned Parenthood and the John Birch Society thought stare decisis came down from Mount Sinai (but specifically for Plessy v. Ferguson when it was overturned by Brown v. Board of Ed). Back then the Conservatives opposed Medicare because it means govt intrusion between doctor and patient .... now, not so much.
mahatmakanejeeves
(57,618 posts)Where, though?
This is as close as I can come now.
What changed from Justice Alitos draft opinion to final ruling on Roe
Justice Samuel Alito used his rewrite to take shots at Chief Justice John Roberts and liberal dissenters.
By KELLY HOOPER
06/24/2022 04:19 PM EDT
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DonCoquixote
(13,616 posts)He will be as deaf to your misery as you are to ours.
AntiFascist
(12,792 posts)Polybius
(15,489 posts)But it feels like forever.
JustABozoOnThisBus
(23,369 posts)And we've suspected since Garland was denied a vote in the Senate.