Collins, Manchin suggest they were misled by Kavanaugh and Gorsuch on Roe v. Wade

[Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin]

Source: NBC News

WASHINGTON — Sen. Susan Collins, R-Maine, and Sen. Joe Manchin, D-W.Va., criticized the Supreme Court's ruling Friday to eliminate the constitutional right to an abortion, after they voted to confirm Justices Brett Kavanaugh and Neil Gorsuch, two key votes in the decision to overturn a half-century-old precedent.

“This decision is inconsistent with what Justices Gorsuch and Kavanaugh said in their testimony and their meetings with me, where they both were insistent on the importance of supporting long-standing precedents that the country has relied upon," Collins said in a statement.

She blasted the ruling as "a sudden and radical jolt to the country that will lead to political chaos, anger, and a further loss of confidence in our government.

Manchin said he's "deeply disappointed" in the justices

Read more: https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/collins-manchin-suggest-they-were-misled-by-kavanaugh-and-gorsuch-on-roe-v-wade/ar-AAYQcwk?li=BBorjTa

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[FarPoint]

1. They lied when they interviewed him and then supported them....

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Now the LIE to us now....

[mitch96]

56. +1 liars calling the people that lied to them liars...uff.. they all suck...nt

[DENVERPOPS]

129. Exactly right!!!!!!!!

Republican Politicians should easily recognize a liar, they make their living off lying.........

What in the world would you expect those last three U.S. S.C. justices to say???????????????????
Like Republican Politicians and some Democrats, they will say ANYTHING to get elected or appointed...............

[SouthernDem4ever]

136. I'm concerned

[Walleye]

2. Misled?!!Misled???!!!

I don’t believe that. We knew they were lying. These people are supposed to be smarter than us

[Rebl2]

89. Guess they aren't

[Escurumbele]

98. They are not smarter than us, they sell themselves easy, that is the big difference.

For them to pretend ignorance and stupidity, or shall we say gullibility is thinking that we are gullible, that we are going to believe their crap.

[usaf-vet]

104. Then they aren't smart enough or savy enough or really concerned enough to be in congress. Period!

[Walleye]

106. I agree. I know we can elect better people than this

[SharonAnn]

116. Oh, give me a break.

[Habitation]

123. They think voters are so fracking stupid to believe their lies on top of their lies...

alas maybe they are mostly right.

humankind is revolting

[BarbaRosa]

3. Misled?

You were fucking lied to.

[agingdem]

38. Mislead?...bullshit!!

the three assholes you voted to confirm lied to you and you lied to us..you two, and Lisa Murkowski, chose McConnell and expediency over any scintilla of conscience you may have had at the time...this is on you..own it!

[BradAllison]

4. Shut the fuck up you complete idiots. n/m

[yardwork]

135. Perfect! The perfect response.

[LakeArenal]

5. "Suggest?" Masters of Understatement

Collins “suggested” trump had learned his lesson.

What horse poop

[Irish_Dem]

6. They are either stupid or lying.

Only two ways to cut it.

[Justice matters.]

18. Lying.

They will do it again and again and again for every right-wing policy against the majority's interest, and fake remorse after, until everyone forgets (except DU).

[Irish_Dem]

24. The GOP doesn't even fake remorse any longer. Or hide their crimes.

It is out in the open for all to see.

[MyOwnPeace]

32. NAILED IT!!!!!!!!!

[cstanleytech]

83. Manchin I can believe about being stupid.

Collins? Probably both but regardless she should resign as she is not fit to remain office.

[Irish_Dem]

92. Corrupt politicians who lie seem to be the norm these days.

Many are not fit to hold such high office.

[usaf-vet]

107. I would suggest a third option. Bought and paid for in all likelihood. With the added benefit....

... of enriching themselves.

[Irish_Dem]

108. Bought and paid for goes without saying. So that means they are lying for sure.

[usaf-vet]

111. Works for me!

[RockRaven]

7. Bullshit. Asking someone to lie to you so you can repeat the lie to the public isn't being misled.

Fuck them both. Americans are going to die because of this, and those deaths are on them too.

[Irish_Dem]

25. They care nothing about American deaths.

Children shot to ribbons while in their classrooms.
One million covid deaths.

We are just collateral damage in their quest for power, control, wealth.

Killing women and children is fine with them.

[MyOwnPeace]

33. What a sad, sad way to explain it all......

and you are CORRECT.....

[FoxNewsSucks]

71. That's so true.

The rich, the corporate oligarchs, they see us as nothing.

[Irish_Dem]

73. They will kill anyone in their way and think nothing of it.

[NH Ethylene]

8. We ALL knew they were lying.

Your pathetic cries now are useless. The only thing that would give them validity is if you (Collins and Manchin) supported impeaching them for lying during their hearings.

[Ocelot II]

9. How come the rest of us weren't fooled?

It is galling beyond description that Supreme Court candidates actually flat-out lied to the Senate during their confirmation hearings and during private meetings, and almost as galling that any Senator believed them - They were vetted by the GOP and the Federalist Society to be sure they would overturn Roe.

[BlueIdaho]

10. Well for Pete's Sake!

Just how gullible are those two chowder heads?

[Maraya1969]

11. The rest of us are not surprised. That's like all the people who came out afterward and said they

didn't think tfg would be so bad. ???????? How come all of us here know these things and these people don't?

[Justice matters.]

31. They literally live in ivory towers.

Manchin in a yacht.

[AllaN01Bear]

12. !@#$%&*( my eye.

[cornball 24]

13. Both of them proved beyond the shadow of a doubt that they are either too feckin' stupid to

represent their constituents or too immoral with their "they duped me" excuse.

[vanlassie]

23. They have Very Poor Judgment.

And should not be in positions of power.

[BigmanPigman]

14. Correct your errors and start voting with the majority of the US.

Collins...cross the isle and show us how concerned you are. Manchin...fuck off you DINO!

[Autumn]

15. Fucking liars. They knew this was going to happen. Now it's cover their asses bullshit

Fuck their disappointment.

[grumpyduck]

16. So, susie and joe,

what are you going to do about it?

Yeah, that's what I thought.

Fuck you both.

[OrlandoDem2]

17. No shit! They should STFU unless they're gonna do something about it.

[tishaLA]

19. The guy who nominated them promised to only appoint anti-choice judges

and they want to pretend the result is a surprise.

[turbinetree]

20. Like you two should be believed.....you let your religion dictate what and how you vote......

disappointed Manchin....I got an idea why don't you place a bill on the floor to have these people impeached.....and then see if that "concerned" from Maine will co-sponsor the bill....why don't you call it they lied to us and the people bill......

[ancianita]

21. WEAK. They're only playing for 2022 votes. They can shove their "deeply disappointed."

[IngridsLittleAngel]

22. Of course they were misled

And you know what? Getting misled is easy when you want to be misled in the first place!!!

That's okay. I bet Susie Collins is... kinda deeply concerned now? Whatever the hell comes about "concerned."

[FoxNewsSucks]

49. She is, VERY concerned.

And Maserati Manchin is ALARMED!!!!!!!!!! OMG!!!!!!!!!

[IngridsLittleAngel]

54. OMG!!!!

So I guess this means they will spend 19 seconds thinking about what happened today and the consequences, before moving their "beautiful minds" onto something else!!!

Be still my beating heart....

[Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin]

94. Bingo

A lie is an easy thing to believe if it's what you want to hear.

[3catwoman3]

122. "Getting misled is easy when you want to be misled in the first place!!!"

So true.

When you go to the movies, it's called willing suspension of disbelief. Perfectly fine there. Shitty way to choose a Supreme Court justice.

[IngridsLittleAngel]

133. Exactly

As you said, "willing suspension of disbelief" is perfectly good when you go to a theater... Especially when watching a sci-fi or superhero movie.

Not a good way to pick SCOTUS judges, though... or run a country in general.

[thesquanderer]

26. The team of Disappointed and Concerned. Catch them on tour this Summer. n/t

[packman]

27. 50 yrs. of not codifing it - something about

kicking a can down the road when eventually you run out of road.

[FoxNewsSucks]

74. Yeah, I don't think we're supposed to remember that

inconvenient fact.

[mathematic]

112. On what grounds can the federal government pass a law to legalize abortion?

This is not a rhetorical question. I haven't heard anybody explain how Congress can pass a constitutional law legalizing abortion.

There USED to be a constitutional basis for abortion rights. The Supreme Court just ended that.

What makes you think a federal abortion rights law would be upheld as constitutional by this Supreme Court?

[packman]

114. The Federal Government can pass any law to legalize anything

I won't bore you with civil rights, lynching, pure food laws, etc,,etc. They can justify, in the correct atmosphere of a liberal Supreme Court, just about any law under a very broad umbrella of human rights and individual choices. What we have here-today- is an aberration, a perversion of freedom as implied in the Constitution. Religion has gotten its filthy nose under the flab of the tent and is inching its way into what should be a secular government.

[yaesu]

28. Misled my ASS, they knew exactly what they were getting. nt

[Joinfortmill]

29. With all due respect to DU, fuck them.

[Raven123]

30. BS I am not that stupid, and neither are they. They calculated no one would notice.

[Lucky Luciano]

34. In order to make up for it, I'm sure they'll suggest we pack the courts and disallow a filibuster.

[Rebl2]

35. Yea

He’s deeply disappointed. No he’s not. He knew they would vote against abortion rights. Same with Collin’s. Don’t believe a word they say.

[rambler_american]

36. Susan Collins

has raised her alert level from concerned to annoyed.

[bucolic_frolic]

37. Those two Senators are either stupid or are lying to us now. There is no other possibility.

[cloudboy07]

46. try both !!

[FoxNewsSucks]

75. I'd say "self-serving" instead of stupid.

Lying - definitely.

And their fans eat it up. Even here. I have no idea how many hundreds of times posters here told me to "learn to love" Manchin in response to my pointing out his anti-democratic activities.

[The Unmitigated Gall]

39. Are you "deeply disappointed" enough in the decision...

To back Biden in expanding the court? Codifying Roe into law?

Yeah...thought not.

[malthaussen]

40. So, they're either stupid or lying? Good recommendation! n/t

[Midnight Writer]

41. I'm an old redneck in farm country, and I knew they were lying.

Can't imagine these professional politicians were fooled.

[LoisB]

42. I wonder if Joe is as "deeply disappointed" as Susie is "concerned". If so, when do they introduce

impeachment proceedings?

[FoxNewsSucks]

50. Actually, he said he was "alarmed".

[LoisB]

66. Well, hell's bells then, he's going to bring up impeachment tomorrow then. Right?

He's alarmed, Susie is concerned, and both were misled. Love your name.

[cstanleytech]

67. He should be because this opens him up to losing the aid and support of the Democratic party.

Unless of course he proves that he is willing to do what is needed to fix SCOTUS which is to increase the number of justices to 13 without the Republicans approval.

[FoxNewsSucks]

77. I sometimes wonder if that's why he endorsed the

"concerned" Collins, to make sure Democrats didn't get the 1-2 more GOOD senators who could make him irrelevant.

He's a self-serving piece of shit. Doesn't work for his state, doesn't work for the country, doesn't work for his party's president and doesn't work to advance the goals of the Democratic party.

[cstanleytech]

81. This ruling by SCOTUS might be the straw that broke the camels back though as his

back is now well and truly to the wall as he either steps up to the plate and helps the Democrats finally use their majority or he is rendered irrelevant and replaced.

[Hav]

91. Probably as alarmed as the useless Uvalde cops,

just helplessly witnessing what happens without doing a damn thing.
No one cares about being alarmed, disappointed or concerned. It's the actions that count. The statements they made are frustratingly worthless and so far removed from the consequences of their actions.

[Gore1FL]

43. I have too assume Collins is part sheep.

"Wool over-the-eyes" is sort of her thing.

[Alien Life Form]

44. The signs were there..they could not be trusted..

they were nominated by Trump!

Serial liar that he is

[caraher]

45. They must be the only two Americans who were fooled

Give me a break. You're both useless.

[niyad]

47. They voted for a RAPIST.

[bdamomma]

48. Liars!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

out right liars, stop with the BS.

[flying_wahini]

51. Oh they knew! They just had to wait for the Koch bros check to clear.

[FoxNewsSucks]

52. Never forget -

Manchin, who is supposed to be a Democrat, endorsed the concerned Susan Collins instead of her ACTUAL Democratic opponent.

To paraphrase Jeff Tiedrich, Holy Fucking Shit! What kind of useless turncoat shithole party member does something like that???

[C Moon]

53. Kiss up to the gop, and you'll get thrown under the bus eventually.

[ramapo]

55. They're joking right?

No words

[Historic NY]

57. Hornswoggled....or just plain incompetence

[maxrandb]

58. Here's an idea for Manchin, Collins and Murkowski

if you were really "lied to" by these "judges", and it "really" bothers you, then

get together with the Democrats, remove the filibuster, and EXPAND THE FUCKING COURT!

Short of that, I suggest you just shut your fucking pinholes.

[myohmy2]

95. +1...

...

[Schmice3]

59. They weren't misled. They knew

[BradAllison]

60. Mansion's probably pissed Fetterman or Ryan will get elected now

And he won't be President any more.

[FoxNewsSucks]

79. Yep. That's probably why he endorsed

Senator Concerned instead of her DEMOCRATIC opponent.

[paleotn]

61. Fuck both of them.

They were both in on this, no?

[nycbos]

62. I'm allergic to bullshit.

[SergeStorms]

63. Fuck both of them....

and the fucking horses they rode in on. Manchin can kiss my rosy red ass. He's nothing but a republican in a blue suit.

[Evolve Dammit]

64. Liars. Willfully ignorant at best.

[cstanleytech]

65. Collins is either a naive idiot or a liar but either way she should

resign immediately.

[Solly Mack]

68. They can spare us their bullshit now.

[DonCoquixote]

69. misled? YOU KNEW WHO THEY WERE

and not only did you nto care, you let them do it so you could retain you cushy positions as the ones centrist dems begged for help.

[NoNameGranny]

70. Collins, Manchin suggest they were misled by Kavanaugh and Gorsuch on Roe v. Wade

OK, so they said they feel misled. I'm not a politician, but I can see that the Republican promoted justices lied like 40 going North.

So what can we do? If we are truly outraged by the Supreme Court's recent ruling, we need to get out and vote! Get the Democrats elected so that we have the majority in the House and the Senate. Then, once we gain control of Congress, buckle down and decide what we want to get done - and get it done. Democrats and Independents have tried to play fair - only to get blind sided and screwed by Republicans. Enough already! The Republican play book has not changed in decades. Democrats, let's please push forward, gain control of Congress, and get things done.

[hay rick]

72. It's really easy to mislead somebody who wants to be misled. nt

[Skittles]

76. oh FUCK THEM

they are LYING

either that or HOW FUCKING STUPID ARE THEY

[FoxNewsSucks]

80. They're liars.

Looking out for themselves, nothing more.

[tonekat]

78. I keep hoping...

...the Dems will gain at least 3 seats in the Midterms (let me have my dreams), and Manchin can go roll in the money in his vault.

When has Collins not been misled by her "fellow" fascists?

[TomDaisy]

82. GO FUCK YOURSELF SUSAN

[AverageOldGuy]

84. "misled"?????

Don't they mean "lied to"???

[pfitz59]

85. So impeach them for perjury or STFU

so tired of the whiny apologists

[NCjack]

86. +1

[dalton99a]

87. Kick

[llashram]

88. misled?

please

[nuxvomica]

90. Oh, well, you can fix that, senators

Kill the filibuster, rightsize the court to 13 and wave through Biden's picks.

[bucolic_frolic]

93. That's free real estate to them, they're on both sides at various points, no consequences

to them or to the perjuring Justices

[Mysterian]

96. They sure seem pretty stupid to be in our national legislature

Being all gullible and stuff.

[Blue Owl]

97. Those stupid fucks

[Scalded Nun]

99. What absolute bullshit

Collins, the GOPs most useful idiot, is sad again. Manchin is a nasty piece of work and always has been.

The most depressing and infuriating thing about Collins in the Senate is that, for all the times she has thrown her state and its citizens under the bus, they keep sending her back.

[lonely bird]

100. They were misled?

Then either they are fucking naive and unfit for office or they are fucking idiots and unfit for office.

[Stuckinthebush]

101. OK then do something about it!

What you can do:

1. - eliminate the filibuster
2 - push through 4 more justices who are centrists if you'd like - but those who would go back and vote with the other three to reinstate abortion protections
3 - ignore the noise that will come from the crazy right

[jaxexpat]

102. Can't mislead the willing.

[AllyCat]

103. They were not misled. We all saw it.

Wonder if either of the two will DO anything about it? That’s what I want to know.

[zentrum]

105. WTH is up with Maine?

They keep voting for her. Will that change now?

[appleannie1]

109. CYA policy. It is not like they were not told.

Or are they now admitting they are fools?

[MissMillie]

110. Collins and Manchin are knuckleheads

They thought they could keep a TFG appointee to their word?

[msfiddlestix]

113. give me an 'effing break. they knew, they didn't give a rats ass.

[emulatorloo]

115. Too bad Manchin and Collins won't say the LIAR word. Or the PERJURY word.

They were lied to, and there should be consequences for that.

[MarcA]

117. Just doing CYA for the MSM and the dumb-dumbs that support them.

They knew exactly what they were doing to protect their Senate Seats for the Owners who bought them.

[ZonkerHarris]

118. golly gee. just too naive to be Senators huh?

[Karma13612]

119. And their dogs ate their homework.....yea, right.

This is a childish response. They should have factored in that a republican pick for the supremely extreme court would prevaricate.

They have been senators for years. They are mature human beings who chose to ignore the reality. They should NOT have voted to confirm either one. These were partisan picks and the proof is in the pudding.

[world wide wally]

120. In other words, they got you twice in a row, huh?

Dumb fucks

[Quanto Magnus]

121. I don't believe those 2 for one second

Susan Collins keeps doing this.... If it was once, maybe she'd be believable....

and Manchin is just as much a sack as the entire GQP

[live love laugh]

124. 😂😂😂😂😂😂

Fuck. Them.

[Jakes Progress]

125. To quote Claude Rains . . . "I am shocked. Shocked I tell you" that

republicans would lie.

[DownriverDem]

126. So now what?

How come we knew and they didn't? SC Judges can be impeached & removed, but we all know that won't happen. I'm at a loss except for women & enlightened men to all vote in November to give the Dems more votes. All the complainers about the Dems not getting things done better wake up. We need more votes and that means winning more elections. That's what it has always been about.

[jimlup]

127. In the case of Collins I blame naivety...

With Manchin I think something else.

[tavernier]

128. Big deal.

We weren’t counting on them for anything anyway.

[blueseas]

130. UGH

[tclambert]

131. They lied during their confirmation hearings? If only there were consequences for that.

[orangecrush]

132. BULLFUCKINGSHIT

Your "legacy" will live forever

[yardwork]

134. Liars lied and other liars pretended to believe them. What a farce.

[mrsadm]

137. SUGGEST they were misled? SUGGEST???????????

[ShepKat]

138. mislead ?

It's called lying with a nefarious agenda to obtain power.