Ghislaine Maxwell put on suicide watch ahead of sentencing: Lawyer
Source: ABC News
Jeffery Epstein associate Ghislaine Maxwell has been put on suicide watch days before her sentencing on five criminal counts, including sex trafficking, according to her lawyer.
She is awaiting sentencing, ahead of Tuesday morning's hearing, at the Metropolitan Detention Center in Brooklyn.
"Yesterday, without having conducted a psychological evaluation and without justification, the MDC placed Ms. Maxwell on suicide watch," her lawyer, Bobbi Sternheim, wrote to a federal court in New York on Saturday. "She is not permitted to possess and review legal documents and is not permitted paper or pen. This has prevented her from preparing for sentencing."
Nearly three years ago, her accomplice, Jeffery Epstein was found dead by suicide at the Metropolitan Correctional Center in Manhattan. The federal government announced last year that MCC would close due to its poor conditions.
Read more: https://abcnews.go.com/US/ghislaine-maxwell-put-suicide-watch-ahead-sentencing-lawyer/story?id=85733948
onecaliberal
(32,858 posts)Eliot Rosewater
(31,109 posts)She might get protection though, somehow.
Haggis 4 Breakfast
(1,454 posts)Dr. Michael Baden, reviewed the Epstein file and said that there is no way that Epstein could have created the injury that killed him. And then there are all of the other inconsistencies and coincidences . . . .
Like Malcolm Nance said, "Coincidence takes a lot of planning."
Effete Snob
(8,387 posts)Yeah. He couldnt figure out who killed OJ Simpsons wife either.
Haggis 4 Breakfast
(1,454 posts)Not a detective.
Try to keep up.
Effete Snob
(8,387 posts)Who is a professional employee of a Democratic administration, and not a gun for hire for people with agendas.
But you are feee to side with Epsteins lawyers.
Haggis 4 Breakfast
(1,454 posts)you know P H Y S I C I A N S ? Not politicians. And Michael Baden is not a politician by any stretch.
You chose your handle well.
Don't waste my time.
Effete Snob
(8,387 posts)This woman of science is not a politician:
https://www1.nyc.gov/site/ocme/news/002-17/new-york-city-chief-medical-examiner-dr-barbara-sampson-appointed-trustee-the-american
New York City Chief Medical Examiner Dr. Barbara Sampson Appointed as Trustee of the American Board of Pathology
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A native of New York City, Dr. Sampson earned her bachelors degree from Princeton University, obtained her Ph.D. in Molecular Biology at Rockefeller University, and received her degree in medicine at Cornell University Medical College, followed by a residency at Brigham and Womens Hospital in Boston.
She brings years of experience to her role as Chief Medical Examiner, having served as Acting Chief Medical Examiner, First Deputy Chief Medical Examiner, Senior Medical Examiner, and Cardiovascular Pathology Consultant, among other positions at OCME since 1998.
She serves as President of the Society of Cardiovascular Pathology, the Vice-Chairman of the Residency Review Committee for Pathology of the Accreditation Council for Graduate Medical Education, and is a member of the National Association of Medical Examiners, the United States and Canadian Academy of Pathology, and the American Academy of Forensic Sciences.
Dr. Sampson has published widely on forensic pathology and microbiology, including 29 articles and 4 book chapters, and serves as an Associate Editor of the journal Cardiovascular Pathology. She is the recipient of the Young Investigator Award from the Society of Cardiovascular Pathology and the E.R. Squibb and Sons Senior Thesis Prize for Contribution to Scientific Research. Dr. Sampson is board certified in Anatomic and Clinical Pathology and Forensic Pathology and is participating in Maintenance of Certification.
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Baden is a longstanding quack for hire who gives his client - in this instance Epstein's lawyers - the answers they want.
But please don't lie about Dr. Sampson.
Her qualifications far exceed Badens, and she had direct access to the body. It is amazing how far people will go to lie to preserve their nonsense.
Go ahead and smear her your best. What sum of money do you suppose she decided to cash in a lifetime of integrity for? Post how much you think it took.
Tell me how much it takes to buy off a leading woman scientist, who was educated and came up through the ranks when science was a much more male-dominated profession, and who no doubt was discouraged by men every step of the way, in order to cover up the crimes of a man who was credibly accused of molesting girls.
I want to know what you have to do to get a woman to trade in her integrity for a job like that, so please let me know how much money you think it takes.
PoliticAverse
(26,366 posts)Effete Snob
(8,387 posts)You will notice that Mr. Haggis here put great stock into Baden being a "PATHOLOGIST", which makes his word golden, and claiming that the NYC ME was a political hack physician.
But now we are going to jump to another track and suggest that all pathologists are unreliable.
Okay.
So on a scale from stupid (doesn't know what she's doing) to liar (in on it) or coward (bought off / threatened because no one ever reports that), you are going to go with "stupid". Correct?
Can you remind me which are the "exact" sciences?
PoliticAverse
(26,366 posts)right? If she didn't you really think that makes her "stupid"?
Whether she is right or not in her assessment has nothing to do with Baden.
> Can you remind me which are the "exact" sciences?
See: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Exact_sciences
Effete Snob
(8,387 posts)Epstein's body - Baden never saw it or touched it.
You prefer Baden's answer, because you trust Team Epstein to come up with the right result. That's all. I tend to be a little skeptical of the opinions of experts hired by child molesters, but you do you.
Effete Snob
(8,387 posts)She serves as President of the Society of Cardiovascular Pathology, the Vice-Chairman of the Residency Review Committee for Pathology of the Accreditation Council for Graduate Medical Education, and is a member of the National Association of Medical Examiners, the United States and Canadian Academy of Pathology, and the American Academy of Forensic Sciences.
Dr. Sampson has published widely on forensic pathology and microbiology, including 29 articles and 4 book chapters, and serves as an Associate Editor of the journal Cardiovascular Pathology.
Dr. Baden is a hack for hire.
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Effete Snob
(8,387 posts)Badens was signed by Epsteins attorneys.
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oldsoftie
(12,535 posts)Response to oldsoftie (Reply #50)
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Effete Snob
(8,387 posts)I discuss.
Not taking requests this week.
I don't ignore Qanon conspiracy crap. I respond to it and point it out.
If my comments bother you, then you can ignore what you like.
Stop telling me what to do.
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samsingh
(17,598 posts)oldsoftie
(12,535 posts)Unless absolutely NOTHING about their lives has changed. And how often does that happen when regular people get handed a large sum of money?
It there was something other than incompetence there it would've been found by now.
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oldsoftie
(12,535 posts)SOMEONE would've said something by now. And again, deaths like this aren't unusual. I'd just like to see something out of the ordinary. Guard incompetence & non working equipment isn't unusual either.
The funniest thing is the Right saying it was the Clintons & the Left saying it was trump. And both insisting THEY know.
Effete Snob
(8,387 posts)What would be the purpose?
Shes been convicted already. The trial is over. The victims testified (although none of the Qanon type conspiracy theorists listened to any of them).
For what possible reason is someone going to kill her now?
Shes had all sorts of time to record everything she knows.
Haggis 4 Breakfast
(1,454 posts)What she HASN'T said would fill the world's libraries. There are powerful men all over this world that would love to make sure she NEVER has the opportunity to talk. Don't forget, there could be an appeal or it could be overturned. Or -- god forbid -- she could be pardoned.
Effete Snob
(8,387 posts)Yep. Q-stuff.
Amazing that a total of one victim named about four other people. When are we going after Bill Richardson, incidentally?
Haggis 4 Breakfast
(1,454 posts)Effete Snob
(8,387 posts)My point is that it is troubling to see Qanon bullshit posted on DU.
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Effete Snob
(8,387 posts)Here, I'll repost it for you.
https://www1.nyc.gov/site/ocme/news/002-17/new-york-city-chief-medical-examiner-dr-barbara-sampson-appointed-trustee-the-american
New York City Chief Medical Examiner Dr. Barbara Sampson Appointed as Trustee of the American Board of Pathology
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A native of New York City, Dr. Sampson earned her bachelors degree from Princeton University, obtained her Ph.D. in Molecular Biology at Rockefeller University, and received her degree in medicine at Cornell University Medical College, followed by a residency at Brigham and Womens Hospital in Boston.
She brings years of experience to her role as Chief Medical Examiner, having served as Acting Chief Medical Examiner, First Deputy Chief Medical Examiner, Senior Medical Examiner, and Cardiovascular Pathology Consultant, among other positions at OCME since 1998.
She serves as President of the Society of Cardiovascular Pathology, the Vice-Chairman of the Residency Review Committee for Pathology of the Accreditation Council for Graduate Medical Education, and is a member of the National Association of Medical Examiners, the United States and Canadian Academy of Pathology, and the American Academy of Forensic Sciences.
Dr. Sampson has published widely on forensic pathology and microbiology, including 29 articles and 4 book chapters, and serves as an Associate Editor of the journal Cardiovascular Pathology. She is the recipient of the Young Investigator Award from the Society of Cardiovascular Pathology and the E.R. Squibb and Sons Senior Thesis Prize for Contribution to Scientific Research. Dr. Sampson is board certified in Anatomic and Clinical Pathology and Forensic Pathology and is participating in Maintenance of Certification.
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Baden is a longstanding quack for hire who gives his client - in this instance Epstein's lawyers - the answers they want.
But please don't lie about Dr. Sampson.
Her qualifications far exceed Badens, and she had direct access to the body. It is amazing how far people will go to lie to preserve their nonsense.
Go ahead and smear her your best. What sum of money do you suppose she decided to cash in a lifetime of integrity for? Post how much you think it took.
Tell me how much it takes to buy off a leading woman scientist, who was educated and came up through the ranks when science was a much more male-dominated profession, and who no doubt was discouraged by men every step of the way, in order to cover up the crimes of a man who was credibly accused of molesting girls.
I want to know what you have to do to get a woman to trade in her integrity for a job like that, so please let me know how much money you think it takes.
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Effete Snob
(8,387 posts)How many people in the Biden administration do you think know about this and are sitting on it?
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ShazzieB
(16,395 posts)I don't have a strong opinion myself, because I haven't really delved into the fact of the case. I certainly don't think it's a ridiculous idea, though. Far from it, actually.
If QAnon thinks he was murdered, it's news to me....but if they do, they have loads of company.
Effete Snob
(8,387 posts)If LOTS believe it, it must be true.
Do you think Merrick Garland knows? How about Biden? Dumb, or just not curious enough?
ShazzieB
(16,395 posts)[EDITED TO ADD: This reply is directed to Effete Snob. No idea why it posted as a reply to myself!]
All I know is that I saw posts right here at DU expressing suspicion about him committing suicide as soon as the news broke. That seemed to be a very common sentiment here, at least at that time. As a result, I was surprised to see it being dismissed as a "RW conspiracy theory."
If you want to argue the question of how Epstein died, you'll have to find someone else to do that with. As I said before, I really don't have an opinion about that.
oldsoftie
(12,535 posts)Opinions don't mean facts. People in situations like that do kill themselves often.
There are a lot of people who think the WTC was "bombed" too. And on & on.
ShazzieB
(16,395 posts)Like I said, I don't have a strong opinion. It just seems odd to me to write it off as a RW conspiracy theory when it's been a pretty popular opinion from the beginning here at good old LW DU.
EDITED TO ADD: This was supposed to be a reply to old softie. I've tried twice now, and it keeps showing up as a reply to myself. I hereby give up and will delete the extra post.
oldsoftie
(12,535 posts)And your post DID come up as a reply to me even though its placement looks otherwise. Computers!!!!
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rubbersole
(6,689 posts)Inquiring minds would like to know.
Effete Snob
(8,387 posts)It is a well known phrase to persons with longstanding acquaintance to liberal politics.
Posers and trolls don't recognize it, because they are only pretending to be liberals, and they don't even bother to Google it.
https://politicaldictionary.com/words/effete-snobs/
Effete snobs was a phrase used by Vice President Spiro Agnew to denounce anti-war protesters, and young intellectuals in general, during the Vietnam era. The phrase quickly caught on and was adopted as a slogan by the anti-war movement.
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It is one of the most instantly recognizable phrases among those who opposed the Nixon administration.
Phonies and people unfamiliar with history, not so much.
rubbersole
(6,689 posts)I feel sorry for your condition. People here are nice. You'll get the help necessary.
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oldsoftie
(12,535 posts)None of us do.
AntiFascist
(12,792 posts)Journeyman
(15,031 posts)and the cameras were trained on her watchers instead of her cell.
texasfiddler
(1,990 posts)SATIRE!!!
sarcasmo
(23,968 posts)Response to groundloop (Original post)
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IronLionZion
(45,441 posts)yet
Skittles
(153,160 posts)fuck her, she is trash
PJMcK
(22,037 posts)Do you?
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womanofthehills
(8,703 posts)As long as shes alive, there Is a possibility.
Effete Snob
(8,387 posts)Several testified in this trial. Theyre not afraid to talk about what happened. But all of them except one has the same consistent story about being recruited to give Epsteinmassages.
Virginia Giuffre named Bill Richardson and nobody gives a shit.
A powerful secret cabal molesting children is a trope that goes back to the Middle Ages, and forward to the McMartin pre-school and the Satanic Panic of the 1980s.
AntiFascist
(12,792 posts)Prosecutors, though, said no redactions were required or necessary because any privacy interests belonged to victims and none asked for their statements to be sealed. They added that no due process interest is protected by withholding victim impact statements from the public. Three victims may speak at sentencing.
Included were nine graphic pictures of Sarah Ransome taken in a hospital bed after two suicide attempts she blames on the trauma of over a half year spent as a sex toy for Epstein and Maxwell and others that left her so distressed that she once considered jumping from a cliff into shark-infested waters off Epstein's sprawling Virgin Islands estate.
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One woman, Kate, a former British model who testified at trial, spoke of the silent screams inside the minds of girls who were not yet adults when Maxwell and Epstein flashed wealth and ties to famous and powerful people before subjecting them to sex abuse and then fear so they would never disobey their prurient quests.
https://abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory/accusers-write-ghislaine-maxwells-sentencing-judge-85702538
roamer65
(36,745 posts)Lancero
(3,003 posts)Is extremely troubling.
ShazzieB
(16,395 posts)That's a new one on me.
As soon as the news of Epstein's death broke, lots of people right here at DU were saying it was murder, not suicide. I mean, immediately.
As I said in another reply, I don't have a strong opinion about it, but I don't think it's a farfetched idea at all.
Lancero
(3,003 posts)So, yes. Right-wing conspiracy theory.
Not the first time DU has drank the kool-aid. And given how many are still sipping on this one, I certainly doubt it'll be the last RW conspiracy theory that DU embraces.
AntiFascist
(12,792 posts)PoliticAverse
(26,366 posts)Epstein was involved with both Democrats and Republicans.
Lancero
(3,003 posts)ShazzieB
(16,395 posts)I was not aware of that. But even knowing it's a popular theory with the RW, I still dont think it's exclusively a RW thing.
I also don't think ALL the posts I read at DU right after the man died were the result of people drinking RW kookaid. The reaction was too instantaneous for that.
As I've said multiple times now, I never did have a strong opinion on how he died. The only point I was ever trying to make is that the belief he was murdered is NOT the exclusive property of the RW. If I haven't made that point by now, I never will, so I am done here!
keithbvadu2
(36,799 posts)C Moon
(12,213 posts)GoldandSilver
(186 posts)Why would I have any sympathy for her. Thats her familys job, not ours.
Ms. Maxwell should live out the rest of her days in a tiny cell, surrounded by women she has no connection to.
Once sentenced, I hope I never hear about her again. Dead to me, but shell have to wake up everyday and remember why shes in prison. May she have a long and miserable life.
GoldandSilver
(186 posts)Why would I have any sympathy for her. Thats her familys job, not ours.
Ms. Maxwell should live out the rest of her days in a tiny cell, surrounded by women she has no connection to.
Once sentenced, I hope I never hear about her again. Dead to me, but shell have to wake up everyday and remember why shes in prison. May she have a long and miserable life.
BWdem4life
(1,665 posts)(And if I had a working conscience) I would want to kill myself too. But I cant imagine anyone with a working conscience doing what she did, so Im with the Epsteiners on this one.
oldsoftie
(12,535 posts)No wasting of tax money on endless worthless appeals & feeding him. He was in his 20s so would have eaten up millions.
As for Maxwell, if she had something to offer I'm sure her attys would have brought it up by now.
AZLD4Candidate
(5,689 posts)Look at the money everyone will save.
Effete Snob
(8,387 posts)Last edited Mon Jun 27, 2022, 08:27 AM - Edit history (1)
Oddly enough, she forgot how to speak, write, or communicate with her attorneys or anyone else.
She's been sitting around for months, and forgot English entirely.
Just think about how extensive is all that stuff she never said but we know is true anyway.
Bettie
(16,105 posts)watch as she commits suicide?
Has she disclosed everything already? I ask because I can only think of one public figure who has been damaged by her testimony so far.
Note: that doesn't mean there aren't more, but only one prominent one comes to mind.
Effete Snob
(8,387 posts)She didn't testify at the trial.
Did she testify somewhere else?
https://www.npr.org/2021/12/17/1064951639/ghislaine-maxwell-doesnt-testify-as-her-defense-team-rests-its-case
Ghislaine Maxwell doesn't testify, as her defense team rests its case
What public figure did Maxwell testify about? This is interesting news.
Bettie
(16,105 posts)I thought she had to give up some information....maybe she didn't.
My husband is going in for heart surgery this week and I'm not entirely on the ball.
Sorry if I offended by being incorrect.
Effete Snob
(8,387 posts)Its just words on a computer screen.
People "know" there is a vast undisclosed conspiracy of pedophiles simply because they "know" it. It is not based on the actual victims' testimony, but is simply based on the fact that Epstein glommed onto a lot of wealthy and powerful people and that, by association, they all were involved somehow.
People "know" about this conspiracy the same way they knew about the Satanic network of child care centers in the 1980's, or the same way that Qanon'ers "know" about trafficked children held hostage under a pizza parlor.
What's nice about this one is the CTers can work both sides since Epstein was bi-partisan in his parasitic relationships.
Aristus
(66,349 posts)n/t
Kid Berwyn
(14,904 posts)Isabel Keane
Metro UK, Thursday 16 Jun 2022 4:49 pm
Lawyers for Ghislaine Maxwell say her cellmate in prison has claimed on several occasions to have been offered money to kill the 60-year-old Jeffrey Epstein accomplice.
Her attorneys made the claim in a court filing Wednesday, in which they called for leniency after she was convicted of sex trafficking and helping pedophile financier Jeffrey Epstein abuse teenage girls.
One of the female inmates in Ms Maxwells housing unit told at least three other inmates that she had ben offered money to murder Ms Maxwell and that she planned to strangle her in her sleep, the court filing read.
The inmate claimed the payment had been worth an additional 20 years incarceration.
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https://metro.co.uk/2022/06/16/ghislaine-maxwells-cellmate-bribed-to-kill-epsteins-accomplice-16841461/