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brooklynite

(94,495 posts)
Tue Jun 28, 2022, 10:47 AM Jun 2022

Nicola Sturgeon sets date for fresh Scottish independence referendum

Source: Financial Times

Scotland’s first minister Nicola Sturgeon has laid out plans for the country to hold a “consultative” independence referendum on October 19 2023.

Sturgeon told the Scottish parliament in Edinburgh on Tuesday that Scotland’s lord advocate had agreed to refer a bill setting up the referendum to the UK Supreme Court, to establish if it was within her government’s authority to hold such a vote. If the court disagreed, then the UK general election expected to be held in 2024 would be a de facto vote on independence, she said.

“The legislative competency can only be determined judicially,” she said. Sturgeon said she accepted that a “Yes” vote in itself would not lead to independence, and that legislation would have to be passed by both the Scottish and UK governments.

Ahead of the speech, Sturgeon’s Labour, Conservative and Liberal Democrat opponents accused her of being out of touch with Scotland’s voters, echoing the stance of the government in Westminster that people were concerned about the cost of living crisis, education and health.

Read more: https://www.ft.com/content/e5374e59-61f5-44f9-863a-ebbde4a5abb7



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Nicola Sturgeon sets date for fresh Scottish independence referendum (Original Post) brooklynite Jun 2022 OP
She doesn't have the votes speak easy Jun 2022 #1
A lot can happen in a year Sanity Claws Jun 2022 #2
Also they leave and ... speak easy Jun 2022 #5
Wonder what would happen if the queen BuddhaGirl Jun 2022 #14
SCEXIT IronLionZion Jun 2022 #3
Wales voted to leave the EU too muriel_volestrangler Jun 2022 #4
Support for Welsh independence geardaddy Jun 2022 #11
SEXIT! - "Scotland can rejoin the EU" speak easy Jun 2022 #6
The world has done lots of wild leaps into the unknown recently IronLionZion Jun 2022 #7
Indeed. speak easy Jun 2022 #8
Or SCONE.. mwooldri Jun 2022 #9
Surely that's Destiny (nt) muriel_volestrangler Jun 2022 #10
Oh, that's perfect Shrek Jun 2022 #12
Hoping both Scotland and the occupied Six Counties in the north of Ireland Roisin Ni Fiachra Jun 2022 #13

speak easy

(9,234 posts)
5. Also they leave and ...
Tue Jun 28, 2022, 12:32 PM
Jun 2022

have to make an application to the EU
then have to get candidate status
then have to jump through all the hoops,
including keeping Spain on side
and there's the border with England (not in the EU customs union)
and what about the fish!?
= at least 3-5 years.
so ... what are they going to do in the interim?
& what are they going to use for currency?
& what happens with defense / NATO?
It is a wild leap into the unknown.

BuddhaGirl

(3,601 posts)
14. Wonder what would happen if the queen
Wed Jun 29, 2022, 12:18 PM
Jun 2022

Last edited Wed Jun 29, 2022, 08:09 PM - Edit history (1)

dies before the vote? That might change a lot of minds towards independence.

IronLionZion

(45,421 posts)
3. SCEXIT
Tue Jun 28, 2022, 11:37 AM
Jun 2022

Scotland can rejoin the EU.

It would be interesting if Wales did the same. Then England can be more isolated.

Northern Ireland can reunify with Ireland to stay in the EU.

muriel_volestrangler

(101,300 posts)
4. Wales voted to leave the EU too
Tue Jun 28, 2022, 11:47 AM
Jun 2022

and the desire for full independence has always been lower there (note, for instance, that pro-union Labour has always been the largest party in the Welsh Parliament - the most that Plaid Cymru ever had was 17 out of 60 seats).

geardaddy

(24,926 posts)
11. Support for Welsh independence
Tue Jun 28, 2022, 07:04 PM
Jun 2022

is steadily increasing, but yes, there's a long way to go to it being a majority.

speak easy

(9,234 posts)
8. Indeed.
Tue Jun 28, 2022, 12:45 PM
Jun 2022

Indeed. But CA suceeding from the Union would be easier than Scotland leaving the UK, and having to join the EU.

Roisin Ni Fiachra

(2,574 posts)
13. Hoping both Scotland and the occupied Six Counties in the north of Ireland
Wed Jun 29, 2022, 08:11 AM
Jun 2022

gain their independence from the English some time in the near future.

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