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BumRushDaShow

(128,852 posts)
Thu Jun 30, 2022, 11:33 AM Jun 2022

Omicron-based vaccines will roll out this fall

Source: Washington Post

This fall, vaccine makers will begin rolling out coronavirus booster vaccines tailored to fight the current version of the pandemic. Two days after outside experts voted in favor of a new vaccine adapted to protect against omicron, the Food and Drug Administration announced that the fall shots would include a component from BA. 4 and BA. 5, the omicron subvariants gaining ground in the United States.

The change shows the FDA trying to be more nimble in efforts to keep up with a changing virus. The precise formula has not been tested in people yet, but studies showed that vaccines tuned to fight a previous version of omicron modestly increased the short-term immune response in people compared to more shots of the original. The agency will depend in part on that data as it reviews the new vaccines.

It is quite possible that BA. 4 and BA. 5 will be eclipsed by new variants by the fall, but the hope is that a new shot will help broaden immunity, since they are closer to where the virus is today. For a year and a half, coronavirus vaccines based on the original version of the coronavirus have provided robust protection, particularly against severe illness.

But immunity tapers off over time, and the virus has proven wily, spawning a growing Greek alphabet of new variants that are more contagious and deft at slipping by people’s immune defenses. “As we move into the fall and winter, it is critical that we have safe and effective vaccine boosters that can provide protection against circulating and emerging variants to prevent the most severe consequences of covid-19,” the FDA statement said.

Read more: https://www.washingtonpost.com/health/2022/06/30/omicron-vaccine-booster-fall/



I saw an article early this morning where they were already freaking out in France where they are expecting to hit a peak of BA.4/5 cases in July.

June 30, 2022
3:43 AM EDT
Last Updated 8 hours ago

France's new wave of COVID infections expected to peak end-July -scientist

Reuters


PARIS, June 30 (Reuters) - A new wave in France of COVID-19 infections fuelled by emerging variants of the disease should peak towards end-July, the French government's top scientific adviser Jean-Francois Delfraissy said on Thursday.

"The peak is not yet here, this peak of infections will probably be for end-July," Delfraissy told RTL radio. "Then the BA.5 variant will reappear, if it is not overtaken by another variant ...in autumn," he added.

France reported new 124,724 coronavirus infections over the past 24 hours, against 77,967 a week ago.

(snip)

https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/frances-new-wave-covid-infections-expected-peak-end-july-scientist-2022-06-30/


The U.S. is averaging about 100,000 (reported) cases per day and we have about 5 times the population of France, so their 124,000/day is a big uptick for them.

This was the latest "Nowcast" from CDC on the variants circulating here -



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Omicron-based vaccines will roll out this fall (Original Post) BumRushDaShow Jun 2022 OP
I'm still trying to find out if I get 4th shot now imavoter Jul 2022 #1
I think the general consensus is a minimum of about 4 - 5 months BumRushDaShow Jul 2022 #2
This new vaccine is for Omacron variants imavoter Jul 2022 #3
The consensus has been that the immunity wanes after 4 - 5 months with the boosters BumRushDaShow Jul 2022 #4

imavoter

(646 posts)
1. I'm still trying to find out if I get 4th shot now
Sat Jul 2, 2022, 01:15 PM
Jul 2022

Can I get this new one in the fall?
I can't seem to find anything on that.

BumRushDaShow

(128,852 posts)
2. I think the general consensus is a minimum of about 4 - 5 months
Sat Jul 2, 2022, 02:27 PM
Jul 2022

between "boosters" (depending on whether it is for a first booster or second).

Here is CDC's webpage describing the timing (you would click on the row of the vaccine brand that you used or are interested in and it describes the timings between the initial series and then any later "boosters" ) -

https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/vaccines/stay-up-to-date.html#recommendations

Hope that helps!

imavoter

(646 posts)
3. This new vaccine is for Omacron variants
Sat Jul 2, 2022, 06:38 PM
Jul 2022

I can't find anything
regarding if we can get the new one
If one get the 4th older version now.

BumRushDaShow

(128,852 posts)
4. The consensus has been that the immunity wanes after 4 - 5 months with the boosters
Sat Jul 2, 2022, 07:43 PM
Jul 2022

I.e.,

For Pfizer -

Boosters:

1 booster, preferably of either Pfizer-BioNTech or Moderna COVID-19 vaccine

For most people at least 5 months after the final dose in the primary series

2nd booster of either Pfizer-BioNTech or Moderna COVID-19 vaccine

For adults ages 50 years and older at least 4 months after the 1st booster


For Moderna -

Boosters:

1 booster, preferably of either Pfizer-BioNTech or Moderna COVID-19 vaccine

For most people at least 5 months after the final dose in the primary series

2nd booster of either Pfizer-BioNTech or Moderna COVID-19 vaccine

For adults ages 50 years and older at least 4 months after the 1st booster


So if you get a 4th original version now in July (4th shot being the same as a "2nd booster" ), you could get a new booster - "5th" (assuming it is approved and being distributed) as early as in November.

I posted about some stuff the new ones at the last FDA meeting here - https://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1014&pid=2937990

It still has to go through CDC's review and approval, so it's not yet fully approved as an amendment or EUA.
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