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Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin

(107,956 posts)
Thu Jun 30, 2022, 01:15 PM Jun 2022

Biden's call for a filibuster carveout for abortion rights unlikely to gain traction because Manchin

Source: Business Insider

Democratic Senators Joe Manchin of West Virginia and Kyrsten Sinema of Arizona won't be supporting a carve-out to the filibuster to codify abortion rights, their offices said Thursday.

The comments come after President Joe Biden called for the Senate to remove the filibuster — meaning lowering to 51 the 60-vote threshhold otherwise to pass major legislation — in order to guarantee a national right to abortion.

Congress has been put in the driving seat to act on abortion after the Supreme Court on Friday overturned 50 years of precedent and stuck down Roe v. Wade, the 1973 ruling that made abortion legal nationwide.

Biden previously called for a similar, one-time exemption in the filibuster to pass a voting rights bill. Both Sinema and Manchin opposed it.

Read more: https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/biden-s-call-for-a-filibuster-carveout-for-abortion-rights-unlikely-to-gain-traction-because-manchin-and-sinema-oppose-it/ar-AAZ2Qim

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Biden's call for a filibuster carveout for abortion rights unlikely to gain traction because Manchin (Original Post) Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Jun 2022 OP
You'd think after the hearings, so called Democrats would begin to bend a bit. LakeArenal Jun 2022 #1
The country is burning down and we the people are powerless to do anything about it. LonePirate Jun 2022 #2
If the Ukranians don't feel powerless we shouldn't either. But I understand where you're in2herbs Jun 2022 #4
The Ukrainians can kill their enemies in order to preserve .. AnrothElf Jun 2022 #14
Agree. Not to be nit-picky, but we do have" that option" that the Ukranians have been in2herbs Jun 2022 #16
Apparently, we are the village that needs to be destroyed aocommunalpunch Jun 2022 #3
This Is Why We Desperately Need More Senators Me. Jun 2022 #5
Exactly and that was his point. Raven123 Jun 2022 #9
I'm hoping the silver lining will be that it propels voters to vote more repukes out. Native Jun 2022 #6
Of course they would packman Jun 2022 #7
Their Traildogbob Jun 2022 #12
I have more confidence in Murkowski and Collins to do that then Manchin and Sinema JohnSJ Jun 2022 #8
Biden has finally awoken to the fact that Dems cannot rely on ManCinema. Go around them. Vote Raven123 Jun 2022 #10
Because Manchin and Sinema do not care about endangering women's lives. I would like to think JohnSJ Jun 2022 #11
What President Biden won't say: Marthe48 Jun 2022 #13
If things continue... 3825-87867 Jun 2022 #15
I'm so sick of those two! Bayard Jun 2022 #17
The carveout should be for bills dealing with constitutional rights in general andym Jun 2022 #18

LakeArenal

(28,817 posts)
1. You'd think after the hearings, so called Democrats would begin to bend a bit.
Thu Jun 30, 2022, 01:16 PM
Jun 2022

On the destruction of Democracy they seem to support.

in2herbs

(2,945 posts)
4. If the Ukranians don't feel powerless we shouldn't either. But I understand where you're
Thu Jun 30, 2022, 01:36 PM
Jun 2022

coming from.

AnrothElf

(567 posts)
14. The Ukrainians can kill their enemies in order to preserve ..
Thu Jun 30, 2022, 02:21 PM
Jun 2022

.. their democracy. We don't have that option.

Yet.

in2herbs

(2,945 posts)
16. Agree. Not to be nit-picky, but we do have" that option" that the Ukranians have been
Thu Jun 30, 2022, 02:35 PM
Jun 2022

forced to undertake. I can't help but think that the Ukranians doing something in defense of their freedoms (even if it means fighting a war where their people are being killed) is better for their mental health than doing nothing but being a victim to Putin's insanity.

I hope our country can be turned around before having to decide our options.

aocommunalpunch

(4,236 posts)
3. Apparently, we are the village that needs to be destroyed
Thu Jun 30, 2022, 01:34 PM
Jun 2022

In order to save it? Why are there NO sticks to go after these obstacles? Where is the intel?

Traildogbob

(8,731 posts)
12. Their
Thu Jun 30, 2022, 01:55 PM
Jun 2022

Excuse is the repubs will end it and take over. Are they fucking joking. The damn court today alone is doing whatever the fuck they want. Votes will be useless. They will appoint dozens of right wing senators and laugh out load at the filibuster shit. Cackling like the picture of them on the steps, when they eliminated taxes on the rich. Manchinema need to go get fucked. And no abortion when they get pregnant. They are sickening.

JohnSJ

(92,187 posts)
11. Because Manchin and Sinema do not care about endangering women's lives. I would like to think
Thu Jun 30, 2022, 01:53 PM
Jun 2022

Murkowski and Collins might be more inclined toward that that exception


3825-87867

(844 posts)
15. If things continue...
Thu Jun 30, 2022, 02:31 PM
Jun 2022

maybe Congress will be concerned enough (with Collin's thoughts) to pass emergency legislation to provide 24/7 protection for Manchin and Sinema at our expense, of course).

Let's face it, sooner or later someone on the left with nothing to lose is gonna go Crazy Ivan and do something radical.

Chance are that won't be ok with many here because we're not like them.

Do I need the sarcasm note?

Bayard

(22,063 posts)
17. I'm so sick of those two!
Thu Jun 30, 2022, 02:48 PM
Jun 2022

Sticking a fork in every decent agenda, making Dems and Biden look bad, not doing what's best for the country.

If we lose coming elections, including the presidential in 2024, I'm going to lay a lot of the blame on them.

andym

(5,443 posts)
18. The carveout should be for bills dealing with constitutional rights in general
Thu Jun 30, 2022, 03:28 PM
Jun 2022

That would take care of voting rights, abortion/contraception rights. etc.
Short of passing a constitutional amendment of a right to privacy, and one person/one vote this is an alternative.

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