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BumRushDaShow

(128,842 posts)
Tue Jul 5, 2022, 08:02 PM Jul 2022

Jayland Walker was handcuffed when his body arrived at the medical examiner's office

Source: CNN

Akron, Ohio (CNN) Jayland Walker was handcuffed behind his back when his body arrived at the coroner's office to be processed as part of the investigation into the officers who shot and killed him in Akron last week, according to a medical examiner's report that was reviewed by CNN.

The preliminary report by the Summit County Medical Examiner's Office contains several pages of thumbnail photos showing Walker dead and handcuffed at the scene. The photos also contain evidence of lifesaving efforts, including what appear to be tourniquets and bandages attached to and lying around his body.

CNN was allowed to review the report but not make copies, per office policy. A final autopsy report will be turned over to the Ohio Bureau of Criminal Investigations, which is investigating any criminal wrongdoing by the officers. The autopsy report will be part of what the state attorney general's office considers for presenting a case to a grand jury.

Walker was killed in the early morning hours of June 27 after he fled what police said was an attempted traffic stop, leading officers on an 18-minute car chase and then a brief foot chase. It ended after he quickly stopped and officers believed he was reaching toward his waist, and "felt that Mr. Walker had turned and was motioning and moving into a firing position," officials have said.

Read more: https://www.cnn.com/2022/07/05/us/jayland-walker-handcuffed-autopsy-report/index.html



Full headline: Jayland Walker was handcuffed when his body arrived at the medical examiner's office, according to the autopsy report

So they handcuffed a corpse with 60 bullets in his body thinking that he would still rear up and reach into his bloodied waistband, moving into firing position as a threatening scary black man ready to shoot multiple cops at once and try to escape?

The Chief and the entire department need be charged.

Meanwhile 2 states over, a jobless killer of 7 and wounder of 20+ who had multiple high-powered rifles, with one left at the scene traced to him after having fired at least 70 rounds, and who also had a "traffic stop" and a "chase", and was then found with more rifles in his car, managed to not have a fusillade of bullets sprayed his way.
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Jayland Walker was handcuffed when his body arrived at the medical examiner's office (Original Post) BumRushDaShow Jul 2022 OP
this is not good ! cloudboy07 Jul 2022 #1
Nothing. Standard police practice as he was "under arrest" they do it all the time. NotHardly Jul 2022 #5
oh they handcuffed him choie Jul 2022 #14
Tampering with a corpse is "Standard procedure"? BumRushDaShow Jul 2022 #25
Shoot someone 60 times then pull out the cuffs and that's standard procedure Bengus81 Jul 2022 #26
Standard police practice to handcuff a corpse? mcar Jul 2022 #28
yep - it is Locrian Jul 2022 #31
Even after he's shot isn't the same as mcar Jul 2022 #32
no disagreement that its stupid and cruel Locrian Jul 2022 #33
The cops are not doctors... (unfortunately, as most doctors have more forebearance) DemocraticPatriot Jul 2022 #34
Could not agree with you more! CaliforniaPeggy Jul 2022 #2
They got off on killing him with extreme overkill and then degrading his body Withywindle Jul 2022 #22
Ugh! Most of those killers probably popped chubbies. Higherarky Jul 2022 #29
Investigators will often point out that extreme overkill Beausoleil Jul 2022 #30
I'm beyond angry and not much of a proud American today. Joinfortmill Jul 2022 #3
And when they were arresting that murderer, they asked him to get on the ground by saying RockRaven Jul 2022 #4
Well, they were just being careful COL Mustard Jul 2022 #6
It's incredibly stupid -- and they also did it here, with the woman they killed after pnwmom Jul 2022 #7
I think it's obscene Deuxcents Jul 2022 #8
How many of those 60 shots were fired AFTER he was on the ground? tclambert Jul 2022 #9
one bullet will out ya on the ground ! cloudboy07 Jul 2022 #12
And the white guys are captured and held as "persons of interest." Un-fucking-acceptable. Evolve Dammit Jul 2022 #10
Sounds like a legal issue with handling a corpse... purr-rat beauty Jul 2022 #11
The link is not secure. Raine1967 Jul 2022 #13
Here is their tweet with the link as well BumRushDaShow Jul 2022 #23
The cops are lying fkers. iluvtennis Jul 2022 #15
Disgusting. MontanaMama Jul 2022 #16
Not in the came caliber, but for some reason, this brings to mind the guy who "committed suicide by 3Hotdogs Jul 2022 #17
shot 60 times llashram Jul 2022 #18
Even if it is standard procedure to handcuff someone being arrested..... DFW Jul 2022 #19
He wasn't being arrested. What was left of his body was being taken to the coroner's office. SunSeeker Jul 2022 #21
I don't know what Akron's procedure is BumRushDaShow Jul 2022 #24
Any cop who felt so scared of black people that he handcuffed a corpse.... SunSeeker Jul 2022 #20
There is nothing, NOTHING more important to cops rsdsharp Jul 2022 #27

NotHardly

(1,062 posts)
5. Nothing. Standard police practice as he was "under arrest" they do it all the time.
Tue Jul 5, 2022, 08:31 PM
Jul 2022

Basic standard practice ... a nothing burger unless you need something more to rage about than we all have these last 3 years.

BumRushDaShow

(128,842 posts)
25. Tampering with a corpse is "Standard procedure"?
Wed Jul 6, 2022, 05:40 AM
Jul 2022

I suppose when you are a POC, or at least what was left of one after being pumped with 60 bullets and bleeding out on the ground, ya gotta make sure they are good and dead. I suppose Akron uses one of these guys to confirm after handcuffing -

Locrian

(4,522 posts)
31. yep - it is
Wed Jul 6, 2022, 08:14 PM
Jul 2022

“It is standard procedure,” said Paul J. Browne, the Police Department’s chief spokesman. “It is standard procedure to handcuff somebody, even after he’s shot.”

https://www.nytimes.com/2007/11/18/nyregion/18cuffs.html


n short, because they’re trained to. Below are some guidelines from the August edition of The Police Chief, a law-enforcement publication, on what cops should do in situations like this

https://www.thecut.com/2015/04/why-cops-handcuff-dead-people.html

mcar

(42,301 posts)
32. Even after he's shot isn't the same as
Wed Jul 6, 2022, 08:17 PM
Jul 2022

even after he's dead.

I can understand cuffing someone even after shot if they are alive.

This man was dead from many, many bullet wounds. Cuffing him was stupid, racist, racist, and stupid. Oh, and cruel.

Locrian

(4,522 posts)
33. no disagreement that its stupid and cruel
Thu Jul 7, 2022, 06:32 PM
Jul 2022

But it does seem to be part of the training:

Lesson 8: Handcuff all downed suspects. Some officers might feel that it is not nice to handcuff suspects that have been shot, and others might believe that it is unnecessary to cuff all suspects because some are “obviously” dead. Counted among the suspects shot during incidents that officers reported during the VALOR interviews were some who appeared to be dead—for example, from multiple rifle rounds to the head—but who were still alive. As noted in the introduction, some human beings have a remarkable capacity to survive gunshot wounds. Fortunately, none of the thoughtdead offenders managed to injure any officers interviewed, but the fact that they were still alive meant that they maintained the capacity to do so. The capacity of downed suspects is hindered substantially when they are cuffed. No matter how severely injured they might be, therefore, all downed suspects should be handcuffed.

DemocraticPatriot

(4,343 posts)
34. The cops are not doctors... (unfortunately, as most doctors have more forebearance)
Thu Jul 7, 2022, 09:38 PM
Jul 2022

They handcuffed him before anyone was there to declare him 'dead'. It seems to have been an immediate action, after he was down. They didn't stop to count his wounds or check for his pulse.... and as has been pointed out, that would be 'normal police procedure' anywhere, no matter what race the "suspect" was.


Yes, in this case, 'normal police procedure' had no relation to common sense, and it is pretty bad 'optics', but I would not accuse them of 'racism' for following normal procedure regarding the use of the handcuffs, something they are expected to do...


I have a much bigger problem with the number of shots fired, by multiple officers, many of whom seem to have emptied 15-round clips in a matter of a few seconds, when no weapon was even seen in possession of the suspect, only 'a gesture', and who in fact had no weapon in his possession at the time... 80 to 90 shots fired, in a few seconds. I watched the video (or listened to it, it was difficult to comprehend the action from a severely bouncing body-cam), and the number of shots from 6-8 officers made it sound like automatic weapons were being used...

Yes, it was an extreme and unjustified over-use of 'deadly force' which should be condemned. In part I believe that it was indeed racially motivated, but I also fault the purported 'training' of police-- who are being taught to "keep shooting until 'the threat' has been 'nullified' " or some such language. In this case, there was no common sense at all-- the police knew at the last that there were six to eight of them, and only one suspect, but they all fired all these bullets, in the dark... with no pause to observe whether their shots were hitting the target, as it seems.

And none of them actually saw any 'lethal threat' from the victim, since he was not actually armed... and I presume the police were wearing bullet-proof vests, and they could presume that this suspect had no such protection. It rather seems to me that they reacted like a frightened mob, to a gesture, with massive overkill. To me they appear to be armed cowards. Such persons should not be armed with the sanction of the state, to exercise the power of life and death over citizens, and exercising that power in split seconds, like a pack of jackals who are afraid of their own shadow!


It is well-known that police are not 'expert marksmen'. They fired 80 to 90 shots. All of those shots did not go into their intended target. Not even 60 went into their intended target, as many of the wounds were likely 'exit wounds' with 2 wounds caused by one bullet. The rest of the missed shots had to end somewhere else...

These kind of trigger-happy police are a threat to EVERYONE! Beyond whom they were pursuing-- many shots missed, and this hail of bullets had to eventually land somewhere. They might have easily landed in some other totally innocent person on the street, or even someone sitting peacefully in their home, watching television late at night, blissfully believing that they were 'safe from police stupidity inside their own castle'

I think that every one of these officers should be terminated from their job, at the least, for the sake of public safety-- immediately.
Whom among them should be criminally charged is the next question that should be answered.


And yes, of course--- presumably "the suspect" was pronounced 'dead at the scene'. The police would have been smart and looked less bad, had they removed the handcuffs from the dead suspect at that point. The failure to do so may have indeed been 'racist'.
Obviously, they didn't care.



CaliforniaPeggy

(149,583 posts)
2. Could not agree with you more!
Tue Jul 5, 2022, 08:16 PM
Jul 2022

This part shrieks out at me:

So they handcuffed a corpse with 60 bullets in his body thinking that he would still rear up and reach into his bloodied waistband, moving into firing position as a threatening scary black man ready to shoot multiple cops at once and try to escape?


Withywindle

(9,988 posts)
22. They got off on killing him with extreme overkill and then degrading his body
Wed Jul 6, 2022, 04:40 AM
Jul 2022

I don't know how to read this information in any other way.

Beausoleil

(2,843 posts)
30. Investigators will often point out that extreme overkill
Wed Jul 6, 2022, 03:17 PM
Jul 2022

usually means an emotionally-fuelled killing.


They were pissed that he made them chase him after being stopped. So they unloaded their weapons (completely unnecessarily).

RockRaven

(14,958 posts)
4. And when they were arresting that murderer, they asked him to get on the ground by saying
Tue Jul 5, 2022, 08:29 PM
Jul 2022

"Do me a favor..."

COL Mustard

(5,897 posts)
6. Well, they were just being careful
Tue Jul 5, 2022, 08:40 PM
Jul 2022

After all, 60-70 bullet impacts don't kill EVERYBODY!!!



And in case it's needed.....

pnwmom

(108,976 posts)
7. It's incredibly stupid -- and they also did it here, with the woman they killed after
Tue Jul 5, 2022, 08:42 PM
Jul 2022

she had called 911 for help.

She had been afraid she was being stalked, so her father -- a retired police chief from another state -- had made the mistake of buying her a gun. On the day she called 911, she was holding the gun out on a balcony when police arrived. They told her to put it down so she went into the apartment and came out without it.

Long story short, they treated her like she was an intruder. They had her lying down on the ground WITHOUT HANDCUFFS for at least three minutes, and when she lifted ups her arm and pointed to the door, one of the officers pumped 6 bullets into her back.

So THEN they put handcuffs on her, and then they attempted CPR with the handcuffs still on her.

In the end, the taxpayers are $7 million poorer because of the lawsuit her family won, and a little boy doesn't have a mom anymore. But the police didn't get hurt giving her CPR, because they'd made sure to put those handcuffs on her first!

Deuxcents

(16,187 posts)
8. I think it's obscene
Tue Jul 5, 2022, 08:43 PM
Jul 2022

Standard practice to shot 90 times n hit him w/ 60 bullets while running away, I suppose. Nutz

Raine1967

(11,589 posts)
13. The link is not secure.
Tue Jul 5, 2022, 10:03 PM
Jul 2022

I believe that this happened, but I will not repost it elsewhere.

CNN needs to provide a secure link.

BumRushDaShow

(128,842 posts)
23. Here is their tweet with the link as well
Wed Jul 6, 2022, 04:56 AM
Jul 2022



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MontanaMama

(23,307 posts)
16. Disgusting.
Tue Jul 5, 2022, 11:09 PM
Jul 2022

I don’t even know what to think, say or do anymore with this…I’m horrified. And, I’m so sorry.

3Hotdogs

(12,372 posts)
17. Not in the came caliber, but for some reason, this brings to mind the guy who "committed suicide by
Tue Jul 5, 2022, 11:59 PM
Jul 2022

gunshot... this while he was handcuffed behind his back and in the back of a police car.


llashram

(6,265 posts)
18. shot 60 times
Wed Jul 6, 2022, 12:11 AM
Jul 2022

and unarmed? Par for the course and meanwhile over in Illinois...so a true dichotomy of race and consequence for alleged crimes and actions. I am so sick of racists 'authorities and their little guns...Will stand outside a classroom to listen to kids screaming and getting slaughtered and the cowards waited for over an hour to enter the active shooter crime scene. While a mother at the same crime scene enters the school gets her kids and leads them out along with other children and yes the shooting and screaming of shot children were active. More courage than any police officer in Akron or Uvalde...A young black man filled up with lead...60 times shot. Just fucking inexcusable...all cowards behind the badges.

I am sick of the hypocrisy and murder.

DFW

(54,341 posts)
19. Even if it is standard procedure to handcuff someone being arrested.....
Wed Jul 6, 2022, 12:20 AM
Jul 2022

A corpse that was killed by 60 bullets is not likely to be moving. Now, I wouldn't put it past some cops to rush up to the body yelling, "stop resisting!" as that also seems to be standard procedure. However, even a sadistic cop with bad intentions should be able to determine that a dead guy who has been shot 60 times is not going to suffer further from anything he could think up, and will not be offering up any kind of resistance at all. If a cop is NOT able to determine that about a corpse that is dead from 60 GSW recently inflicted by him and his buddies, then there are some issues about some gaping holes in his training.

I'd rather not think about the possibility that he was handcuffed and THEN shot 60 times. First of all, the video indicated no such thing, and any cop in THAT situation is good for nothing other than lethal injection. Again, that does not at all appear to be the case here.

SunSeeker

(51,550 posts)
21. He wasn't being arrested. What was left of his body was being taken to the coroner's office.
Wed Jul 6, 2022, 02:38 AM
Jul 2022

He was dead. You cannot arrest dead people.

BumRushDaShow

(128,842 posts)
24. I don't know what Akron's procedure is
Wed Jul 6, 2022, 05:18 AM
Jul 2022

but from reading many news articles about homicide cases over the years, one of the complaints often lodged from family members of the decedent, is that the body would be left wherever it was found, sometimes for "hours" waiting for arrival of and/or as an investigative/forensics person or team would intensively survey the scene, marking the positions of nearby objects/shell casings, taking photos, etc, and then a Medical Examiner/Coroner would be on the scene as part of that process to confirm the individual was deceased. Sometimes they will throw a tarp over the body before removing it (and might put them in a body bag).

To me, anyone throwing handcuffs on someone who is dead at the scene, should be charged with tampering with a corpse.

SunSeeker

(51,550 posts)
20. Any cop who felt so scared of black people that he handcuffed a corpse....
Wed Jul 6, 2022, 02:36 AM
Jul 2022

...needs to turn in his badge. He is too racist and/or mentally unstable to be a police officer.

rsdsharp

(9,165 posts)
27. There is nothing, NOTHING more important to cops
Wed Jul 6, 2022, 01:34 PM
Jul 2022

than “officer safety.” Not the law, not civil rights, certainly not “citizen safety,” even if the citizens are kids.

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