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Judi Lynn

(164,157 posts)
Sat Jul 9, 2022, 03:23 AM Jul 2022

Bay Area Doctor Plans to Offer Abortions Via Boat off the Gulf of Mexico

Source: NBC


OBGYN organizing to bring abortions, reproductive healthcare to people in states like Texas, Louisiana, Alabama on federal waters.
By Alyssa Goard • Published 1 hour ago • Updated 50 mins ago

A Bay Area OB-GYN is organizing an effort to bring abortion services and reproductive healthcare to several southern states bordering the Gulf of Mexico via a ship sailing on federal waters. Dr. Meg Autry, who also works as a professor at UCSF, had already been working to bring this effort to life. But when Roe v. Wade was overturned, Autry said their plans were accelerated.

As first reported by KCBS, this plan called PRROWESS aims to bring reproductive healthcare to states where abortions are banned, limited, or hard to access.

In an interview with NBC Bay Area, Autry pointed out that people living in southern parts of states like Texas and Louisiana with restrictive abortion rules are actually closer to the coast than to nearby states with more abortion access. Plus, she noted, getting on a boat is cheaper and quicker than getting on a plane to another state.

Autry has performed abortions for decades and refers to herself as "a lifelong educator, a lifelong career abortion advocate."

Read more: https://www.nbcbayarea.com/news/local/floating-abortion-clinic-meg-autry/2940013/

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Bay Area Doctor Plans to Offer Abortions Via Boat off the Gulf of Mexico (Original Post) Judi Lynn Jul 2022 OP
Galveston, Pensacola and the MS Coast Sgent Jul 2022 #1
If gambling ships can operate that way, women's health delivery should be able to as well Hekate Jul 2022 #2
may they be blessed DonCoquixote Jul 2022 #3
They better have their own armed guards, armed with AR-15s... DemocraticPatriot Jul 2022 #20
THIS 👆🏻👆🏻👆🏻 LenaBaby61 Jul 2022 #24
This Dutch doctor has been doing similar things for decades. róisín_dubh Jul 2022 #4
VERY good and gratifying to see these workarounds popping up. calimary Jul 2022 #5
Yes. I try to explain that to people about taxes. oldsoftie Jul 2022 #10
And a Dutch doctor is prescribing abortion pills to them. SunSeeker Jul 2022 #6
Do patients ever need a fast emergency ride from the clinic to a hospital? JustABozoOnThisBus Jul 2022 #7
or they may have ship equipped with full operating room drray23 Jul 2022 #23
that would be easily detectable Crazyleftie Jul 2022 #8
I was thinking the same. intheflow Jul 2022 #18
Where there's a will, there's a way. Never thought of that. oldsoftie Jul 2022 #9
The 'state' won't, but their crazy-ass followers will. OldBaldy1701E Jul 2022 #13
Try that and the US Coast Guard will have something to say. even outside the 3 miles. oldsoftie Jul 2022 #14
But, will they? OldBaldy1701E Jul 2022 #15
My first thought as well. They will be an easy target for the nut jobs. Irish_Dem Jul 2022 #16
No problem with them arming themselves. Same reason people have guns at home. oldsoftie Jul 2022 #17
That is what I am saying. OldBaldy1701E Jul 2022 #22
Federal waters? Or international waters? LastDemocratInSC Jul 2022 #11
Yeah, me too. NT mahatmakanejeeves Jul 2022 #12
Maritime limits and boundries... reACTIONary Jul 2022 #19
I wondered the same thing. Here's what I found: CaptainTruth Jul 2022 #21
Judi Lynn.... Upthevibe Jul 2022 #25

Sgent

(5,858 posts)
1. Galveston, Pensacola and the MS Coast
Sat Jul 9, 2022, 03:41 AM
Jul 2022

would be the obvious launch sites. Possibly New Orleans via Lake Pontchartrain but that's a much longer trip to get clear of the state boundaries. I don't know the ICW west of Galveston. That said, it will be easy to get shoreside services in New Orleans but much more difficult in the other cities (IDK about Galveston).

Houston has a large port but is located too far inland and is among too much traffic to make it a real option for this sort of situation.

Hekate

(100,133 posts)
2. If gambling ships can operate that way, women's health delivery should be able to as well
Sat Jul 9, 2022, 03:42 AM
Jul 2022

DonCoquixote

(13,976 posts)
3. may they be blessed
Sat Jul 9, 2022, 03:54 AM
Jul 2022

though let's face it, the men and women who think an ar-15 is the law will attack them, especially with dixie police and churches screaming yee-haw the first time these doctors get shot.

róisín_dubh

(12,376 posts)
4. This Dutch doctor has been doing similar things for decades.
Sat Jul 9, 2022, 05:32 AM
Jul 2022
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rebecca_Gomperts
She began working with women in the US in 2018. Such a shame that a supposedly advanced country requires such services.

calimary

(90,511 posts)
5. VERY good and gratifying to see these workarounds popping up.
Sat Jul 9, 2022, 05:49 AM
Jul 2022

Yankee ingenuity strikes again!

Whatever barricades and obstructions you assholes put in our way, WE will find a way AROUND. Actually might be a slew of ways around.

There are MANY kinds of “mothers of invention”!

 

oldsoftie

(13,538 posts)
10. Yes. I try to explain that to people about taxes.
Sat Jul 9, 2022, 07:22 AM
Jul 2022

People will ALWAYS find a way to pay less when they think the rate is too high.

JustABozoOnThisBus

(24,715 posts)
7. Do patients ever need a fast emergency ride from the clinic to a hospital?
Sat Jul 9, 2022, 06:39 AM
Jul 2022

I hope the ship will have a helicopter and staff on board.

Creative idea, but I think a trip to a land-based clinic is safer.

Or, GOTV, and let's make abortion services available nation-wide.

intheflow

(30,227 posts)
18. I was thinking the same.
Sat Jul 9, 2022, 12:15 PM
Jul 2022

The Repukes in power will just ban women from getting on boats. If they seriously think they can ban women from interstate travel, this is the next logical step (in their twisted ideology).

 

oldsoftie

(13,538 posts)
9. Where there's a will, there's a way. Never thought of that.
Sat Jul 9, 2022, 07:20 AM
Jul 2022

Don't see how there's anything a State could do about it either.

OldBaldy1701E

(11,392 posts)
13. The 'state' won't, but their crazy-ass followers will.
Sat Jul 9, 2022, 08:40 AM
Jul 2022

Without the means to protect themselves, they are just going to end up in the water with a sinking boat. Then there is the fact of fuel and supplies. What if those states decline to allow them to get those things? What if those bordering states decide not to allow this because they don't want to screw up interstate relations? Then, there is the 'safety search' that the state can attempt in the name of 'safety'. Once one is out on the water past the federal line.... you are on your own. I love the idea, but they will need help against those lunatics who will rush out to that boat just to shoot at it and try to sink it.

 

oldsoftie

(13,538 posts)
14. Try that and the US Coast Guard will have something to say. even outside the 3 miles.
Sat Jul 9, 2022, 08:45 AM
Jul 2022

And getting fuel isn't a problem. Anyone can bring fuel to a ship. They can easily move around in the ocean; look how hard it is to find ships when people WANT to find them

OldBaldy1701E

(11,392 posts)
15. But, will they?
Sat Jul 9, 2022, 08:59 AM
Jul 2022

Again, you seem to miss the fact that, unless that CG cutter is a constant companion, it won't make much difference if they are five miles away while a strike team of OathBreakers sneaks out one night and blast a hole in that ship the doctors will be using. Just as calling the cops is about useless when the cops are more than 30 seconds away and the gun is in your face. When the danger is active and in front of you, calling for help that will take minutes to arrive just means you are on your own. They need to arm that ship. Either that, or maybe do the 'Corbomite Maneuver' and convince them that no one would survive an attempt of that nature. I don't know, but there will have to be more done to protect that ship other than a wistful hope about the possible arrival of the Coast Guard if there is trouble. But, I am a cynic, so maybe this does not make sense to anyone else.

 

oldsoftie

(13,538 posts)
17. No problem with them arming themselves. Same reason people have guns at home.
Sat Jul 9, 2022, 11:21 AM
Jul 2022

Yes there IS a possibility someone could try something, but its also not easy to find a boat on open ocean. Or approach one without being seen. I doubt they'd be out there at night doing it. And anyone caught attacking a ship should be charged with piracy
Probably wouldnt be a stretch to think they could have "escort" boats to shadow them if threats become a possibility.

OldBaldy1701E

(11,392 posts)
22. That is what I am saying.
Sat Jul 9, 2022, 07:39 PM
Jul 2022

They will have to arm themselves. I would also love for them to have escort. However, let us not forget the number of active and former military that have joined the fringes. All it would take is one of them. As to finding it, all that would take is one 'plant' with a AppleTracker. Unless the Planned Parenthood ship is practically a fortress in its own right, they would have problems aplenty. My wish is that they DO make it a fortress in its own right. Then, let the 'coverall mafia' try and mess with it!

reACTIONary

(7,264 posts)
19. Maritime limits and boundries...
Sat Jul 9, 2022, 12:53 PM
Jul 2022

Maritime limits and boundaries for the United States are measured from the official U.S. baseline, recognized as the low-water line along the coast as marked on the NOAA nautical charts in accordance with the articles of the Law of the Sea. The Office of Coast Survey depicts on its nautical charts the territorial sea (12 nautical miles), contiguous zone (24nm), and exclusive economic zone (200nm, plus maritime boundaries with adjacent/opposite countries).


https://nauticalcharts.noaa.gov/data/us-maritime-limits-and-boundaries.html

CaptainTruth

(8,238 posts)
21. I wondered the same thing. Here's what I found:
Sat Jul 9, 2022, 03:19 PM
Jul 2022

"In a 1947 landmark case, the U.S. Supreme Court ruled against the state of California, saying the federal government held rights in all submerged lands of the Pacific seaward of the low-water mark. The U.S. Supreme Court gave a similar ruling against Louisiana and Texas.
Congress then created the Submerged Lands Act of 1953, which declared that states owned the submerged lands, and the natural resources within, seaward out to three nautical miles."

(Note how Congress passed a law to change a SCOTUS ruling... interesting.)

"International Waters: Once a vessel is in waters that are more than 24 miles off the coast of a country, they are considered to be on the high seas and in international waters. The laws used to govern in these waters are based on the country where the ship is registered and the flag it is flying."

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