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demmiblue

(39,685 posts)
Wed Jul 13, 2022, 10:35 AM Jul 2022

Exclusive: Trump's Lawyers Think Mark Meadows Is Going Down

Source: Rolling Stone

The Jan. 6 Committee is probing the former chief of staff’s finances, Rolling Stone has learned, adding to a long list of legal headaches

...

Trump’s inner circle increasingly views Meadows as a likely fall guy for the former president’s attempts to overturn the 2020 election, so much so that members of Trump’s legal team are actively planning planning certain strategies around Meadows’ downfall — and Trump has himself begun the process of distancing himself from some of his onetime senior aide’s alleged pre- and post-Jan.6 actions. Indeed, several of Trump’s legal and political advisers have already spoken to the ex-president, on a number of occasions in recent months, about how much “trouble” Meadows is likely in.

Meadows’ already bleak legal prospects could get even worse. Rolling Stone has learned that the Jan. 6 committee has been quietly probing his financial dealings, and any new revelations would add to an already long list of unethical and potential illegal actions he’s accused of taking on behalf of Donald Trump.

“Everyone is strategizing around the likelihood that Mark is in a lot of trouble,” says a lawyer close to the former president. “Everyone who knows what they’re doing, anyway.”

This reporting is based on Rolling Stone’s conversations with eight sources familiar with the matter, each of whom is still working in Trump’s political orbit, on his legal defense, or in Republican circles in regular contact with the ex-president. The sources spoke on the condition of anonymity to candidly discuss sensitive matters. A spokesperson for Meadows declined to comment.

Read more: https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-news/mark-meadows-jan6-trump-cheney-1382261/

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Exclusive: Trump's Lawyers Think Mark Meadows Is Going Down (Original Post) demmiblue Jul 2022 OP
So far, Meadows seems very happy to fall on his sword to protect Trump. Why? emulatorloo Jul 2022 #1
short of Meadows suddenly flying off to agingdem Jul 2022 #6
He still sees silence as his best shot to avoid jail InstantGratification Jul 2022 #8
He might see no other choice karynnj Jul 2022 #12
The J6 committee does not have the legal power wnylib Jul 2022 #31
well, there's the $1m mopinko Jul 2022 #19
What I've read about Meadows Mz Pip Jul 2022 #25
Really YoshidaYui Jul 2022 #27
That'd be fine with me. calimary Jul 2022 #34
What do his zealous religious beliefs wnylib Jul 2022 #33
Putin has Meadow's pee tape. Mawspam2 Jul 2022 #26
There is no reasonable scenario where Meadows goes down ... VMA131Marine Jul 2022 #2
Trump will get indicted... agingdem Jul 2022 #11
Should be Traildogbob Jul 2022 #22
Wake me up when Trump's been indicted. RipVanWinkle Jul 2022 #39
It's time Meadows came clean to the committee. Ocelot II Jul 2022 #3
Meadows is a dummy, who is commited to dummyism. NCjack Jul 2022 #9
I don't think Meadows is nearly as smart as Dean. Novara Jul 2022 #30
Finances? Cracklin Charlie Jul 2022 #4
That rock around his neck is going to pull him down Historic NY Jul 2022 #5
He can always cut a deal . . . Bleacher Creature Jul 2022 #7
I got really drunk and drove my car. PdamnedQ Jul 2022 #15
What the hell did that stooge Meadows think was going to happen? underpants Jul 2022 #10
Sacrificing his pawns... BlueIdaho Jul 2022 #13
♫ ♪ ♬ ...The Wheels On The Bus Go CRUNCH CRUNCH CRUNCH... ♪ ♩ ♬ nt smb Jul 2022 #17
Why would anyone think Trump would look out for them? BlueIdaho Jul 2022 #38
LOL! n/t EndlessWire Jul 2022 #42
So Trump including Meadows in his scheme and paying him gets him off the hook? LiberalFighter Jul 2022 #14
Ha-ha! Mike Nelson Jul 2022 #16
Meadows? I hardly knew him Obvious85 Jul 2022 #18
More projection? Marthe48 Jul 2022 #20
Meadows will gladly take the fall. Kablooie Jul 2022 #21
Meadows will be llashram Jul 2022 #23
I just hope Trumps personal aircraft is chained to the hanger floor... 40RatRod Jul 2022 #24
I'm sure he has a yacht available EndlessWire Jul 2022 #43
Meadows is a big coward and a backstabbing SOB. fightforfreedom Jul 2022 #28
J6 committee is aiming at Flush Wild blueberry Jul 2022 #29
We need Trump to go down now YoshidaYui Jul 2022 #32
Tots & pears... CaptainTruth Jul 2022 #35
This is Trump lawyer propaganda. They and Trump WANT Meadows to take the fall. pnwmom Jul 2022 #36
The main reason why the DOJ did not enforce the J6 subpoena is that Meadows is clearly a target LetMyPeopleVote Jul 2022 #37
Pendejo45 didn't do anything. Blame Meadows! n/t aggiesal Jul 2022 #40
As Cipollone's J6 testimony rolls out, along with the charismatic insider empedocles Jul 2022 #41
What kind of defense does Trump have? EndlessWire Jul 2022 #44
I couldn't have done that - I'm not smart enough to do that ! cloudboy07 Jul 2022 #45
Why would anyone in Trmp's current circle of lawyers and staff, talk to Rolling Stone Re J6 et al? msfiddlestix Jul 2022 #46

agingdem

(8,836 posts)
6. short of Meadows suddenly flying off to
Wed Jul 13, 2022, 10:48 AM
Jul 2022

a non-extradition country, this is the time for Meadows to sit down with the J6 committee, spill his guts under oath and cut a deal with the DOJ...

and why would Meadows fall on his sword?...a million ($$$$) reasons with a promise of more to come

8. He still sees silence as his best shot to avoid jail
Wed Jul 13, 2022, 10:52 AM
Jul 2022

If Trump's legal team and others start to make it obvious that they view Meadows as a fall guy to insulate Trump and start taking actions and making statements to make that happen, Meadows will be under immense pressure. At some point he has to realize his best play is to flip. I don't know if he will or not, but the pressure cooker gets turned up with each new witness.

I'm not actually predicting this, but I had an amusing thought: What if Meadows has already made that calculation, skipped the J6 committee and started cooperating with the DoJ in secret. Unlikely for sure, but amusing to think of Trump's melt down if something like that came out.

karynnj

(60,949 posts)
12. He might see no other choice
Wed Jul 13, 2022, 11:09 AM
Jul 2022

It might be that the J6 committee already as too much on him, Trump and other inner circle people to offer him immunity for his testimony. As a former President has never even been indicted, Meadows may actually be the biggest fish other than Trump. It may be that the DOJ, using stuff they have on their own and the J6 stuff, might - as happened in Watergate - want involved cabinet and top administration people to go to jail.

Meadows may see a possible Trump or Trump-like Republican President as someone who would pardon him. (Personally, I assume that a Trump like President will strategically praise "all the good things" (as even Cassidy said) while rejecting what was done when Trump lost. (Note - they can still be for suppressing votes, but against an insurrection. This could mean that Meadows, Powell, Giuliani etc might be scapegoated as misleading Trump that he could do this. It might be that the Republican right might try to protect just Trump.)

wnylib

(25,914 posts)
31. The J6 committee does not have the legal power
Wed Jul 13, 2022, 01:18 PM
Jul 2022

to offer immunity. They are only an investigative committee of Congress. Immunity is a DOJ power.

Could it be that that's why Meadows has not been indicted for contempt of Congress after ignoring a subpoena? He might already have made a deal with DOJ, or they might be anticipating or working on a deal with him.

Mz Pip

(28,441 posts)
25. What I've read about Meadows
Wed Jul 13, 2022, 12:36 PM
Jul 2022

He’s a religious zealot and thinks he’s he was called by god to serve Trump. He’ll allow himself to be a martyr to the cause if he thinks that's his calling.

YoshidaYui

(45,397 posts)
27. Really
Wed Jul 13, 2022, 12:57 PM
Jul 2022

He should find a sword and fall on it while on TV, just a suggestion for all Trump followers!

calimary

(89,950 posts)
34. That'd be fine with me.
Wed Jul 13, 2022, 01:33 PM
Jul 2022

He strikes me as unrecoverable. And unreachable. And unsalvageable. And unredeemable.

wnylib

(25,914 posts)
33. What do his zealous religious beliefs
Wed Jul 13, 2022, 01:21 PM
Jul 2022

say about accepting million dollar bribes?

A "true believer" would not need bribes.

VMA131Marine

(5,267 posts)
2. There is no reasonable scenario where Meadows goes down ...
Wed Jul 13, 2022, 10:43 AM
Jul 2022

but Trump doesn’t.

Unless…DOJ just refuses to prosecute Trump. That would be a huge mistake.

agingdem

(8,836 posts)
11. Trump will get indicted...
Wed Jul 13, 2022, 11:07 AM
Jul 2022

Meadows, Bannon, Flynn, Eastman, Giuliani will go down as well..and maybe Clark, Navarro, and Chesboro..not sure about Sidney Powell... she's a smug, obnoxious, loathsome wacko hag but I'm not sure that's indictable...

Traildogbob

(13,010 posts)
22. Should be
Wed Jul 13, 2022, 11:55 AM
Jul 2022

With planning armed coup takeover. I wanna see Gym and MTG deported while waiting charges. Don’t waste our taxes on locking them up. I would be ok with deportation to GITMO for a decade of so, just waiting for charges, like other capture terrorists. Ya know, for the safety of the country.
I would also like to see trump in a coed prison sharing a cell with the Sasquatch Lawyer. Sneeking Viagra into his mashed taters daily. They deserve each other’s vialness.

Ocelot II

(130,439 posts)
3. It's time Meadows came clean to the committee.
Wed Jul 13, 2022, 10:43 AM
Jul 2022

John Dean spilled the beans to the Watergate committee in part because he realized Nixon wanted to make him the fall guy. If Meadows goes down it's likely he'll take TFG with him regardless, but he's even dumber than he looks if he voluntarily takes the rap for him.

Novara

(6,115 posts)
30. I don't think Meadows is nearly as smart as Dean.
Wed Jul 13, 2022, 01:16 PM
Jul 2022

But I also expect that when faced with as many crimes as they might pin on him, he may throw the orange fuck under the bus to save his own skin.

How do we know he isn't already cooperating with the DOJ?

Cracklin Charlie

(12,904 posts)
4. Finances?
Wed Jul 13, 2022, 10:43 AM
Jul 2022

Trump gave Meadows a million bucks, after Meadows agreed to testify to the committee.

Trumps lawyers may be planning for something else, something about Trump (witness tampering?).

Historic NY

(40,006 posts)
5. That rock around his neck is going to pull him down
Wed Jul 13, 2022, 10:46 AM
Jul 2022

but maybe he might want to save himself.

 

PdamnedQ

(168 posts)
15. I got really drunk and drove my car.
Wed Jul 13, 2022, 11:16 AM
Jul 2022

I ran out of gas on the way home.

I pulled my car over and passed out in the backseat.

I woke up to find that my pockets were being turned out and that I was going to sleep somewhere else than home.

At court I asked the judge to understand that my car was a Buick and prone to reckless behavior.

The judge said, "go to jail, go to jail, go to jail, and enjoy your time with basic cable television."

What makes him so special?


NO PLEA DEAL!

LET HIM SUCK HIS OWN DICK FOR AWHILE!

underpants

(196,396 posts)
10. What the hell did that stooge Meadows think was going to happen?
Wed Jul 13, 2022, 11:06 AM
Jul 2022

Trump has no none zero loyalty to anyone but himself.

BlueIdaho

(13,582 posts)
13. Sacrificing his pawns...
Wed Jul 13, 2022, 11:10 AM
Jul 2022

We’re near the end of the game and TFG is busy sacrificing his own pieces on the board in order to prolong his inevitable checkmate.

BlueIdaho

(13,582 posts)
38. Why would anyone think Trump would look out for them?
Wed Jul 13, 2022, 03:30 PM
Jul 2022

Where in history has that ever happened? 🎶 Nowhere man 🎵

LiberalFighter

(53,544 posts)
14. So Trump including Meadows in his scheme and paying him gets him off the hook?
Wed Jul 13, 2022, 11:11 AM
Jul 2022

Is Mafia Don going to hire some goons to take care of Meadows?

Kablooie

(19,103 posts)
21. Meadows will gladly take the fall.
Wed Jul 13, 2022, 11:54 AM
Jul 2022

He probably expects to do a few years in a country club prison and when he gets out he’ll be a conservative superstar.

llashram

(6,269 posts)
23. Meadows will be
Wed Jul 13, 2022, 12:06 PM
Jul 2022

the trump chump dupe sucker for believing and participating-planning a coup de'tat on 1/6/21. He will take the weight. While I hope he is one of many. I keep having my small nagging doubts that he will be the only one to face justice in trump's higher echelons of powerful people. And that the prior president, the Mussolini-mob boss, won't. I swear I hope these doubts are found to be unfounded.

40RatRod

(566 posts)
24. I just hope Trumps personal aircraft is chained to the hanger floor...
Wed Jul 13, 2022, 12:27 PM
Jul 2022

...so he can't slip out of the country.

EndlessWire

(8,103 posts)
43. I'm sure he has a yacht available
Wed Jul 13, 2022, 05:45 PM
Jul 2022

just not under Russian registration, lest we seize it.

 

fightforfreedom

(4,913 posts)
28. Meadows is a big coward and a backstabbing SOB.
Wed Jul 13, 2022, 01:01 PM
Jul 2022

He would turn on his own mother to stay out of prison.

Wild blueberry

(8,286 posts)
29. J6 committee is aiming at Flush
Wed Jul 13, 2022, 01:09 PM
Jul 2022

They're not going to miss. Bullseye! Meadows deserves everything that's coming to him, and so does his overlord (or is that overlard?).

YoshidaYui

(45,397 posts)
32. We need Trump to go down now
Wed Jul 13, 2022, 01:19 PM
Jul 2022

Before he has a chance to run again! (not like that will help him)

pnwmom

(110,255 posts)
36. This is Trump lawyer propaganda. They and Trump WANT Meadows to take the fall.
Wed Jul 13, 2022, 02:37 PM
Jul 2022

They have DECIDED he's going down.

LetMyPeopleVote

(179,495 posts)
37. The main reason why the DOJ did not enforce the J6 subpoena is that Meadows is clearly a target
Wed Jul 13, 2022, 03:03 PM
Jul 2022

empedocles

(15,751 posts)
41. As Cipollone's J6 testimony rolls out, along with the charismatic insider
Wed Jul 13, 2022, 05:26 PM
Jul 2022

Cassidy, - meadows will be continually re-evaluating his options.

A few more insider flips may lower his leverage with DOJ.

EndlessWire

(8,103 posts)
44. What kind of defense does Trump have?
Wed Jul 13, 2022, 05:51 PM
Jul 2022

"My lawyer made me do it." "It's all Meadows fault." They don't have a defense, as ignorance of the law is not a defense.

He better set sail now. We really won't pursue him all that much. Just a submarine following at a distance...just so we know where he went...

msfiddlestix

(8,178 posts)
46. Why would anyone in Trmp's current circle of lawyers and staff, talk to Rolling Stone Re J6 et al?
Thu Jul 14, 2022, 12:45 PM
Jul 2022

and reveal what their strategic plans in reaction/response to Meadows circumstances related to J6 legal problems?

unless it was to bum-steer leads of inquiry on the events surrounding jan 6. and Meadow's role.

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