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(20,049 posts)
Thu Jul 14, 2022, 04:42 PM Jul 2022

Secret Service erased text messages from January 5 and 6, 2021 -- after oversight officials asked fo

Source: ABC

Secret Service erased text messages from January 5 and 6, 2021 -- after oversight officials asked for them, watchdog says

The US Secret Service erased text messages from January 5 and 6, 2021, shortly after they were requested by oversight officials investigating the agency's response to the US Capitol riot, according to a letter given to the House select committee investigating the insurrection and obtained by CNN.

The letter, which was originally sent to the House and Senate Homeland Security Committees by the Department of Homeland Security Inspector General, says the messages were erased from the system as part of a device-replacement program after the watchdog asked the agency for records related to its electronic communications.

"First, the Department notified us that many US Secret Service text messages from January 5 and 6, 2021, were erased as part of a device-replacement program. The USSS erased those text messages after OIG requested records of electronic communications from the USSS, as part of our evaluation of events at the Capitol on January 6," the letter from DHS IG Joseph Cuffari stated.

"Second, DHS personnel have repeatedly told OIG inspectors that they were not permitted to provide records directly to OIG and that such records had to first undergo review by DHS attorneys," Cuffari added. "This review led to weeks-long delays in OIG obtaining records and created confusion over whether all records had been produced."

Read more: https://www.kten.com/story/46877744/secret-service-erased-text-messages-from-january-5-and-6-2021-after-oversight-officials-asked-for-them-watchdog-says



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Secret Service erased text messages from January 5 and 6, 2021 -- after oversight officials asked fo (Original Post) herding cats Jul 2022 OP
a few people need to be fired ... and go to jail mainer Jul 2022 #1
Agreed! herding cats Jul 2022 #4
NO! A SHITLOAD of people need to be fired. These people are loyal to TFG, not US!! mpcamb Jul 2022 #79
So agree with this Rebl2 Jul 2022 #34
The place they were going to take Pence? Just a guess. Joinfortmill Jul 2022 #37
That's a good hypothesis. n/t intheflow Jul 2022 #70
More likely, "Ya should'a seen it. The asshole tried to grab the wheel." 3Hotdogs Jul 2022 #86
👆We know what Trump really hates is to be laughed at Walleye Jul 2022 #91
There needs to be a major house cleaning JohnSJ Jul 2022 #49
Yes, We'd all like to know.. over 6,000 Cha Jul 2022 #84
Felony? Legal Eagles, count the ways please Tetrachloride Jul 2022 #2
The GOP elite will always be protected. And operate outside the law. Irish_Dem Jul 2022 #3
Wow!!!! hedda_foil Jul 2022 #5
Sounds a lot like the missing minutes in Nixon's tapes. sakabatou Jul 2022 #6
And the flight control operators on 9-11 vanlassie Jul 2022 #54
Someone's gonna squeal mainer Jul 2022 #7
That says a lot. Srkdqltr Jul 2022 #8
As Soon As Joe Biden leftieNanner Jul 2022 #21
And this erasing happened before Biden took office. Srkdqltr Jul 2022 #26
Yup, It's a mircale Obama made it out alive. God bless him, one of the best. Joinfortmill Jul 2022 #38
There's always a way to recover stuff. Pisces Jul 2022 #9
+1 2naSalit Jul 2022 #25
If they were using an iPhone on Verizon's service, yeah, they could recover it Calista241 Jul 2022 #29
That's what I figured but what (another) a Seditious move! electric_blue68 Jul 2022 #83
They can be found on the Government server in Utah. Meadowoak Jul 2022 #95
If we've learned anything about technology it is that nothing is ever erased permanently. Pisces Jul 2022 #97
+1 Meadowoak Jul 2022 #98
More likely a Russian server, maybe in Trump Tower. nt woodsprite Jul 2022 #105
+1 Meadowoak Jul 2022 #106
jesus (nt) FreepFryer Jul 2022 #10
Shades of Rose Mary Woods. AngryOldDem Jul 2022 #11
of my!! Something stinks horribly bad! riversedge Jul 2022 #12
Yes. All the Trump and Prince security people that were filtered into the SS Captain Zero Jul 2022 #13
Deja Vu all over again. Tom Yossarian Joad Jul 2022 #14
Oy Oy Oy! Drum Jul 2022 #55
Yes she was quite a limber flexible old gal Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Jul 2022 #67
Guess every gov't agency was corrupted (IN FOUR YEARS). And DOJ seems to be as well. n/t Evolve Dammit Jul 2022 #15
That's the million dollar question--to what degree has Trump stinkified the DOJ? spudspud Jul 2022 #32
It does remain a very big question. Even if it is hampering/ slowing/ mucking or stonewalling Evolve Dammit Jul 2022 #72
Ask good old Ginni, apparently she would bring trump a list of whom to hire and fire Meadowoak Jul 2022 #96
"Welcome Back, My Friends, to the Coup That Never Ends..." dchill Jul 2022 #39
ELP reference, that gave me a chuckle duckworth969 Jul 2022 #57
sure looks that way. EL&P? I should know this?? And they do appear un-checked.... Evolve Dammit Jul 2022 #71
Emerson, Lake and Palmer... dchill Jul 2022 #75
I wanna go back. Really want to go back. n/t Evolve Dammit Jul 2022 #76
I hear you. dchill Jul 2022 #77
✔️ n/t msfiddlestix Jul 2022 #102
The fish stinks from the head down. BlueIdaho Jul 2022 #16
WTF - isn't this obstruction of justice. n/t iluvtennis Jul 2022 #17
Jail them all. Old Crank Jul 2022 #18
It's the cover up that gets them C_U_L8R Jul 2022 #19
Dear DOJ, This is unacceptable. Do your job. Sincerely, We the People n/t ariadne0614 Jul 2022 #20
Seems obvious, donut? dchill Jul 2022 #66
Theres a redneck streak in the Uniformed Secret Service tonekat Jul 2022 #22
Trump OhioTim Jul 2022 #23
Well, everything Trump touches has corruption attached. Lonestarblue Jul 2022 #24
Oh really? 2naSalit Jul 2022 #27
Destruction of evidence... paleotn Jul 2022 #28
More on Cuffari OhioTim Jul 2022 #30
I agree. SergeStorms Jul 2022 #56
And while they're at it..... SergeStorms Jul 2022 #68
and Ornato is now back in leadership at Secret Service. Qutzupalotl Jul 2022 #82
Obstruction of Justice Roy Rolling Jul 2022 #31
That right there is some Karma13612 Jul 2022 #33
The equivalent of low life punks throwing their burners away after a crime spree LiberalLovinLug Jul 2022 #64
Good analogy! Karma13612 Jul 2022 #65
Mike Pence knew something mgardener Jul 2022 #35
Your second point is the most damning, right? Drum Jul 2022 #60
Seriously fucked up much? dchill Jul 2022 #36
Pretorians are like that. jaxexpat Jul 2022 #40
Remember this date moniss Jul 2022 #41
It feels like everything Pendejo45 touches, turns to crap n/t aggiesal Jul 2022 #42
Yes! FM123 Jul 2022 #47
Thank you, other in this forum are using it as well. n/t aggiesal Jul 2022 #61
Everything associated with trump is rotten mountain grammy Jul 2022 #43
The rot goes deep Hekate Jul 2022 #44
Holy shit Leith Jul 2022 #45
Begin at 1:25 BidenRocks Jul 2022 #46
Trump did not bring them in - they were already there. Probably waiting for the opportune time LiberalArkie Jul 2022 #48
Let's just clean house then...these people aren't irreplaceable, Drum Jul 2022 #50
Why erased on those two dates and not Jan. 3, 4, 7, 8 etc? Wicked Blue Jul 2022 #51
+1000 x 1000 ....eom Karma13612 Jul 2022 #63
The SS doesn't have its own automatic cloud achive? Backseat Driver Jul 2022 #52
Nobody is better at covering their track (asses) that the Secret Service CanonRay Jul 2022 #53
Praetorian Guard indeed duckworth969 Jul 2022 #58
These are US government records. It's illegal to delete them. patphil Jul 2022 #59
anyone else smell bullshit? so top/bottom audit after dismissals with prejudice bringthePaine Jul 2022 #62
You mean DHS might be covering something up? intheflow Jul 2022 #69
Pretty sure that is a fed crime (deleting public records) Evolve Dammit Jul 2022 #73
How about that? Kid Berwyn Jul 2022 #74
Obstruction of Justice and Conspiracy sounds about right purr-rat beauty Jul 2022 #78
qOP lawlessness is completely out of control under Garland's watch ecstatic Jul 2022 #80
The silence is growing deafening. nt GoodRaisin Jul 2022 #85
There something seriously wrong with the Secret Service... GoldandSilver Jul 2022 #81
"No matter how paranoid or conspiracy-minded you are... alterfurz Jul 2022 #87
Am I just wearing a tinfoil hat... ECL213 Jul 2022 #88
Device-replacement program, my ass dalton99a Jul 2022 #89
All those responsible need to be suspended immediately, pending Roisin Ni Fiachra Jul 2022 #90
What needs to be kept so secret, Secret Service? keithbvadu2 Jul 2022 #92
Dick Cheney did this when his email records were subpoenead AdamGG Jul 2022 #93
Are these the guys we are still paying to protect his pathetic ass? 1WorldHope Jul 2022 #94
Is there any way to recover these texts, from a phone or a server? Martin68 Jul 2022 #99
bookmarking. k&r nt orleans Jul 2022 #100
Any SS involved in this Quanto Magnus Jul 2022 #101
is it possible to recover some or all of these texts? cab67 Jul 2022 #103
This infuriates me. I'm so SO sick of the sickos doing this to our government. BComplex Jul 2022 #104

Cha

(319,076 posts)
84. Yes, We'd all like to know.. over 6,000
Fri Jul 15, 2022, 02:00 AM
Jul 2022

Texts I read were deleted.

Focus!
Please Fight to Save Our Democracy💙 in 2022 & 2024!

Srkdqltr

(9,760 posts)
8. That says a lot.
Thu Jul 14, 2022, 04:45 PM
Jul 2022

I have been reading that the Secret Service has been less than loyal?? Needs a cleaning.

leftieNanner

(16,159 posts)
21. As Soon As Joe Biden
Thu Jul 14, 2022, 05:07 PM
Jul 2022

was innaugurated, the Secret Service pulled all of TFG's agents off POTUS duty and brought in people who had worked with Biden when he was VP.

Calista241

(5,633 posts)
29. If they were using an iPhone on Verizon's service, yeah, they could recover it
Thu Jul 14, 2022, 05:20 PM
Jul 2022

But the SS uses secure phones with encryption and permanent erasure capabilities to avoid the prospect of loss.

Pisces

(6,235 posts)
97. If we've learned anything about technology it is that nothing is ever erased permanently.
Fri Jul 15, 2022, 01:15 PM
Jul 2022

AngryOldDem

(14,180 posts)
11. Shades of Rose Mary Woods.
Thu Jul 14, 2022, 04:49 PM
Jul 2022

I wonder if they’ll demonstrate how this happened, like she did with the Dictaphone?

Captain Zero

(8,905 posts)
13. Yes. All the Trump and Prince security people that were filtered into the SS
Thu Jul 14, 2022, 04:53 PM
Jul 2022

during the Trump years.

Smells to high heaven, doesn't it?

spudspud

(647 posts)
32. That's the million dollar question--to what degree has Trump stinkified the DOJ?
Thu Jul 14, 2022, 05:27 PM
Jul 2022

And if so, was it to such a degree that he will not be prosecuted by them?

Evolve Dammit

(21,777 posts)
72. It does remain a very big question. Even if it is hampering/ slowing/ mucking or stonewalling
Thu Jul 14, 2022, 08:08 PM
Jul 2022

it is an assault on our institutions and those obstructing should be held accountable. Yeah right.

Meadowoak

(6,606 posts)
96. Ask good old Ginni, apparently she would bring trump a list of whom to hire and fire
Fri Jul 15, 2022, 12:31 PM
Jul 2022

To there weekly lunch date.

dchill

(42,660 posts)
39. "Welcome Back, My Friends, to the Coup That Never Ends..."
Thu Jul 14, 2022, 05:43 PM
Jul 2022

Courtesy of the GOP crooks who can't be stopped.

BlueIdaho

(13,582 posts)
16. The fish stinks from the head down.
Thu Jul 14, 2022, 04:56 PM
Jul 2022

At this point I don’t think there is a single individual member of the Secret Service that is trustworthy and loyal to the constitution of the United States. The whole organization needs to be ripped apart, refreshed and replaced.

C_U_L8R

(49,384 posts)
19. It's the cover up that gets them
Thu Jul 14, 2022, 05:02 PM
Jul 2022

Destroying evidence is a crime and everyone in that chain of command better start talking or face consequences.

tonekat

(2,529 posts)
22. Theres a redneck streak in the Uniformed Secret Service
Thu Jul 14, 2022, 05:08 PM
Jul 2022

My ex had a niece that was the most immature person for her age I ever met.

She ended up marrying a guy from MD who was one of the uniformed SS members. He has said that the SS didn't give a damn about Obama's safety.

The Treasury Dept. needs to scrub their house and disinfect it.

Lonestarblue

(13,480 posts)
24. Well, everything Trump touches has corruption attached.
Thu Jul 14, 2022, 05:11 PM
Jul 2022

The Secret Service should have been purged during and after the Obama years when someone agents seemed to allow a lower standard of protection for a black president. Now that Trump corrupted a number of them, everyone with whom he came in contact or hired or was a manager over those agents needs a thorough review. I hate to think Biden’s safety being in the hands of a Trump loyalist or the VP’s safety being in the hands of a white supremacist.

paleotn

(22,218 posts)
28. Destruction of evidence...
Thu Jul 14, 2022, 05:16 PM
Jul 2022

All those involved should be fired, prosecuted and incarcerated.

OhioTim

(389 posts)
30. More on Cuffari
Thu Jul 14, 2022, 05:21 PM
Jul 2022

Wikipedia: he received Ph.D. in Management from California Coast University in 2002, an online for-profit university characterized as a "diploma mill" by the Government Accountability Office.[3]

Biden needs to fire this idiot now!

SergeStorms

(20,591 posts)
56. I agree.
Thu Jul 14, 2022, 07:06 PM
Jul 2022

Before he's fired he needs to be questioned by the FBI. Thoroughly, using "enhanced interrogation" techniques. For days, if not longer.

This is a cover-up of monumental proportions. This could have all sorts of security implications reaching the highest levels of government.

That guy has some serious 'splaining to do.

SergeStorms

(20,591 posts)
68. And while they're at it.....
Thu Jul 14, 2022, 07:57 PM
Jul 2022

They should question Tony Ornato, the head of Trump's SS detail who was "promoted" to Trump's Deputy Chief of Staff for Operations, but this time under oath. Several White House Aides have accused Ornato of lying about conversations with Meadows concerning Trump's Lafayette Park photo-op, and about Cassidy Hutchinson's conversation with Secret Service Agents concerning Trump's grabbing the steering wheel of the limo on the way to the White House after his J6 Capitol speech.

This guy sounds like a Trumpanista from the word 'go'. After Trump left the White House he tried to slide right back into the White House SS detail. He was reassigned to a training post outside the White House detail before President-elect Biden took office after Biden’s allies complained that some agents were too close to Trump, according to a December 2020 story in The Washington Post.

There are more than a few people around the White House that I wouldn't trust. Better to be safe than sorry.

Roy Rolling

(7,632 posts)
31. Obstruction of Justice
Thu Jul 14, 2022, 05:23 PM
Jul 2022

There were Secret Service agents among the conspirators. That’s a gigantic revelation—there were traitors among them hoping for personal enrichment and power by sucking up to Trump.

None of these fucking morons has Trump signing their paycheck, do they? No. It’s signed by U.S. Government workers from taxpayer funds.

Fuck these traitors and thieves, too. They’re stealing my money by not doing the job they’re paid to perform.

Karma13612

(4,981 posts)
33. That right there is some
Thu Jul 14, 2022, 05:31 PM
Jul 2022

F**ked-up $hit.

Is “Device-Replacement Program” a euphemism for swapping out communications equipment. And then they can say “oh, I have a new phone and the old phone was handed back in. I guess they must have cleared out the memory. Sorry. Not Sorry.”





mgardener

(2,360 posts)
35. Mike Pence knew something
Thu Jul 14, 2022, 05:35 PM
Jul 2022

That's why he would not get in the car with them.

Trump was not removed from the WH while the the Capitol was being attacked.
Why not?

Drum

(10,678 posts)
60. Your second point is the most damning, right?
Thu Jul 14, 2022, 07:17 PM
Jul 2022

If you think you’re in no danger, you’re not convincingly careful. 🤷🏻‍♂️

dchill

(42,660 posts)
36. Seriously fucked up much?
Thu Jul 14, 2022, 05:37 PM
Jul 2022

Republicans spoiling the bouillabaisse? One thing is fairly certain: those messages exist somewhere...

 

jaxexpat

(7,794 posts)
40. Pretorians are like that.
Thu Jul 14, 2022, 05:43 PM
Jul 2022

Time to readdress their role in things. Reassign their duties. Trump had intended to employ the Proud boys as standins while he invented uniforms for his new bodyguard cadre.

moniss

(9,056 posts)
41. Remember this date
Thu Jul 14, 2022, 05:43 PM
Jul 2022

because it looks as though the Secret Service knowingly and purposely (important legalese) destroyed evidence they knew had been requested as part of an investigation. This is absolutely huge. Not entirely unexpected if you take a big overview of the way the Orange Ruski and company put their cronies in every nook and cranny in DOJ,DOD,CIA,FBI and no doubt the SS. Those last initials are such a weird coincidence. There will be more disclosure of destruction of evidence to come from others about others. Remember how weird it seemed at the initial hearings about 1/6 last year when we couldn't even get a straight story from the cops, Guard etc. about the phone calls and who knew what and what they did or didn't do with the info they had? The media will likely memory-hole this in a day or so. The IG letter is dated July 13th. That is the same day in 1973 that Alexander Butterfield told the Watergate Committee investigators about the secret taping system at the White House. A weird coincidence on the 49th anniversary of one of the most significant disclosures of that scandal. It was the following Monday on the 16th that Butterfield appeared before the Committee publicly. Let's see what our media does.

If anybody should think that the SS is above all of this I would remind them of recent disclosures of misbehavior over the last decades. Also that when Ted Kennedy was given SS protection while campaigning for McGovern his SS detail included a SS agent who had been Nixon's former bodyguard and the evidence and testimony revealed that Nixon placed him on that detail with orders to spy on Kennedy and report details about Kennedy back to Nixon.

FM123

(10,372 posts)
47. Yes!
Thu Jul 14, 2022, 06:23 PM
Jul 2022

And may I compliment you on your choice of name for that idiot - Pendejo45 is just perfect.

Leith

(7,864 posts)
45. Holy shit
Thu Jul 14, 2022, 06:00 PM
Jul 2022

This is unthinkable - yet they did it. The orange monster and his cohorts are corrupt criminals.

LiberalArkie

(19,806 posts)
48. Trump did not bring them in - they were already there. Probably waiting for the opportune time
Thu Jul 14, 2022, 06:30 PM
Jul 2022

for another JFK moment.

Drum

(10,678 posts)
50. Let's just clean house then...these people aren't irreplaceable,
Thu Jul 14, 2022, 06:49 PM
Jul 2022

…nor are they guaranteed loyalty that they won’t reciprocate.


Wicked Blue

(8,868 posts)
51. Why erased on those two dates and not Jan. 3, 4, 7, 8 etc?
Thu Jul 14, 2022, 06:52 PM
Jul 2022

The texts of the 5th and 6th just happened to be the days selected for device clearing.

Coincidence?
I don't think so.

Backseat Driver

(4,671 posts)
52. The SS doesn't have its own automatic cloud achive?
Thu Jul 14, 2022, 06:54 PM
Jul 2022

Easy peasy, then: Device replacement? Remove dirty SIM/insert pristine one. Crush and burn the old ones? But, but, but - burners.

JHP - Even my cell providers transferred what was on my phone and I can still access stuff in the cloud.

CanonRay

(16,171 posts)
53. Nobody is better at covering their track (asses) that the Secret Service
Thu Jul 14, 2022, 06:58 PM
Jul 2022

see Kennedy, John F, Assassination of. But whoever did this need to go to jail.

patphil

(9,068 posts)
59. These are US government records. It's illegal to delete them.
Thu Jul 14, 2022, 07:16 PM
Jul 2022

I wonder if the system backup copies were also erased. That would indicate malicious intent.

intheflow

(30,179 posts)
69. You mean DHS might be covering something up?
Thu Jul 14, 2022, 08:01 PM
Jul 2022

Who could have imagined the Bush-Cheney wet dream of a agency would do that?!? 🤪

Kid Berwyn

(24,395 posts)
74. How about that?
Thu Jul 14, 2022, 08:14 PM
Jul 2022

An upgrade ate the emails.

Right. Like the time the two video cameras watching Epstein conked out when the guards were asleep on the night Epstein was found dead.

ecstatic

(35,075 posts)
80. qOP lawlessness is completely out of control under Garland's watch
Thu Jul 14, 2022, 10:18 PM
Jul 2022

Seriously, WTF is going on? Start locking these motherfuckers up NOW or step down and let someone who will administer justice fairly and equally step in.

GoldandSilver

(186 posts)
81. There something seriously wrong with the Secret Service...
Fri Jul 15, 2022, 01:10 AM
Jul 2022

The Secret service was regarded as the elite of the elite. The premier unit assigned to protect the lPresident and the Vice President and their families with their lives if necessary. They were to be alert, loyal, and discreet.

What we have had for years is bunch of conceited, sloppy, party boys who can barely keep themselves out of the tabloids.

There’s a longline of appalling sex and alcohol scandals, several complete failures to maintain routine security measures, and now we have partisan politics in the ranks and outright defiance of a records request (demand) from the Inspector General’s office, supposedly resulting in destruction of the requested records.

The Secret Service is in deep and dirty and I hope the January 6 Committee exposes it to the public.

Time for a thorough house cleaning and I doubt Merrick Garland has the stomach for it.



alterfurz

(2,681 posts)
87. "No matter how paranoid or conspiracy-minded you are...
Fri Jul 15, 2022, 08:21 AM
Jul 2022

...what the government is actually doing is worse than you imagine." -- William Blum

ECL213

(445 posts)
88. Am I just wearing a tinfoil hat...
Fri Jul 15, 2022, 09:18 AM
Jul 2022

Don't you think someone still has those texts, like the NSA? I would think the communications of those responsible for protecting the President (even a POS like TFG) would have back-ups of back-ups of back-ups.

AdamGG

(1,882 posts)
93. Dick Cheney did this when his email records were subpoenead
Fri Jul 15, 2022, 11:30 AM
Jul 2022

They all got deleted. And there were never any consequences for it.

1WorldHope

(2,054 posts)
94. Are these the guys we are still paying to protect his pathetic ass?
Fri Jul 15, 2022, 11:51 AM
Jul 2022

Are we not still paying USSS to protect TFG and his freaking children?

BComplex

(9,914 posts)
104. This infuriates me. I'm so SO sick of the sickos doing this to our government.
Fri Jul 15, 2022, 04:00 PM
Jul 2022

This is on fux nooz. They make the sickos feel so friggin' entitled to their disdain for our country and our government.

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