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BumRushDaShow

(169,761 posts)
Thu Jul 14, 2022, 07:08 PM Jul 2022

DC police officer in Trump Jan. 6 motorcade corroborates details of heated Secret Service exchange

Source: CNN

(CNN)A Washington, DC, police officer has corroborated to the House select committee investigating January 6, 2021, details regarding a heated exchange former President Donald Trump had with his Secret Service detail when he was told he could not go to the US Capitol after his rally, a source familiar with the matter tells CNN.

The officer with the Metropolitan Police Department was in the motorcade with the Secret Service for Trump on January 6 and recounted what was seen to committee investigators, according to the source. A spokesperson for the committee declined to comment. A spokesperson for Metropolitan Police Department did not immediately respond to comment. The description of the angry exchange between Trump and his Secret Service detail was a striking moment during the June testimony from former White House aide Cassidy Hutchinson.

Hutchinson said that she heard a secondhand account told to her by then-White House deputy chief of staff Tony Ornato that Trump was so enraged at his Secret Service detail for blocking him from going to the Capitol on the day of the insurrection that "he reached up towards the front of the vehicle to grab at the steering wheel" and "then used his free hand to lunge towards" his Secret Service lead agent Robert Engel. Hutchinson testified that Ornato told her the story in front of Engel and he did not dispute the account.

Neither of the agents named in the testimony have commented publicly on Hutchinson's testimony. But soon after it, a Secret Service official who would only speak on background, said Engel would deny parts of the story regarding Trump grabbing at the steering wheel and lunging toward an agent on his detail. The agency has said the agents involved would testify to that effect, though they have not yet gone back to the committee to testify.

Read more: https://www.cnn.com/2022/07/14/politics/trump-secret-service-january-6-metropolitan-police-officer/index.html



Full headline: DC police officer in Trump Jan. 6 motorcade corroborates details of heated Secret Service exchange to committee
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DC police officer in Trump Jan. 6 motorcade corroborates details of heated Secret Service exchange (Original Post) BumRushDaShow Jul 2022 OP
That...... Lovie777 Jul 2022 #1
So now the 2 SS agents are left with either lying or coming clean... Historic NY Jul 2022 #2
Unwritten rule in SS paleotn Jul 2022 #4
Can you imagine all the times they must have ended their work day in utter exasperation? LiberalLovinLug Jul 2022 #5
Oh, my god. Seriously! paleotn Jul 2022 #6
Most or all of trump's SS detail were MAGA. Conveniently, they deleted all of their text messages. PSPS Jul 2022 #12
Exactly. nt SunSeeker Jul 2022 #15
SS knew about JFKs affairs but were very tight lipped bout it. Kaleva Jul 2022 #16
Exactly... paleotn Jul 2022 #29
Score! TY & the DC Police Officer. Cha Jul 2022 #3
Kicking for visibility SheltieLover Jul 2022 #7
The Committee had corroboration to Hutchinson's testimony even BEFORE her public hearing Wednesdays Jul 2022 #8
+1 2naSalit Jul 2022 #17
MOST interesting. calimary Jul 2022 #9
big K&R BootinUp Jul 2022 #10
This is turning into a very relevant incident. Martin68 Jul 2022 #11
K&R Bayard Jul 2022 #13
As does the video clip, showing Trump motioning his hands around the driver's head. SunSeeker Jul 2022 #14
what? Kali Jul 2022 #24
Here you go... SunSeeker Jul 2022 #25
dang! Kali Jul 2022 #26
Maybe the Secret Service erased any dash cam from that day... SunSeeker Jul 2022 #27
bingo! Kali Jul 2022 #28
What details did he corroborate? 867-5309. Jul 2022 #18
Apparently that there WAS a "heated exchange" between 45 and the SS BumRushDaShow Jul 2022 #19
Thanks for the info 867-5309. Jul 2022 #21
Yeah I posted what the general idea was and significance below BumRushDaShow Jul 2022 #23
Because grabbing a steering wheel is more important than sending an armed mob to the Capitol? Novara Jul 2022 #20
This is to not only establish "Dereliction of Duty", but intent BumRushDaShow Jul 2022 #22
That was the worst kept secret in town leftyladyfrommo Jul 2022 #30

Historic NY

(40,037 posts)
2. So now the 2 SS agents are left with either lying or coming clean...
Thu Jul 14, 2022, 07:15 PM
Jul 2022

The committee should have them come in soon

paleotn

(22,218 posts)
4. Unwritten rule in SS
Thu Jul 14, 2022, 07:52 PM
Jul 2022

Protect the president's privacy. I think maybe they're taking that rule too far. Think about it, the SS knows every single detail of a president's activities 24/7 for however long he or she is in office. Minute details. They have to. But that's also a political gold mine for the opposition, whoever that might be. Thus, they are a notoriously tight lipped bunch. BUT...In this case, the fate of the democracy is at stake, so they really need to set that unwritten rule aside, if for nothing else, to avoid perjury. The not so unwritten rule about our judiciary and Congress.

LiberalLovinLug

(14,689 posts)
5. Can you imagine all the times they must have ended their work day in utter exasperation?
Thu Jul 14, 2022, 07:58 PM
Jul 2022

Before Jan 6th.

During the 4 years he was in office. I'm sure they could tell a lot of stories if they so chose. A lot of baby tantrums they had to endure.

PSPS

(15,322 posts)
12. Most or all of trump's SS detail were MAGA. Conveniently, they deleted all of their text messages.
Thu Jul 14, 2022, 10:20 PM
Jul 2022

There's no shortage of MAGA moles in every federal agency and every branch of government, including judiciary, now.

paleotn

(22,218 posts)
29. Exactly...
Fri Jul 15, 2022, 05:28 PM
Jul 2022

Their job is to protect the president, not be a source for political attacks. Then again, what if the president is actively planning sedition or even treason? One would think their oath to the Constitution would kick in.

Cha

(319,086 posts)
3. Score! TY & the DC Police Officer.
Thu Jul 14, 2022, 07:23 PM
Jul 2022

Focus!
Please Fight to Save Our Democracy💙 in 2022 & 2024!

Wednesdays

(22,605 posts)
8. The Committee had corroboration to Hutchinson's testimony even BEFORE her public hearing
Thu Jul 14, 2022, 08:53 PM
Jul 2022

I'll bet my house on that!

SunSeeker

(58,283 posts)
14. As does the video clip, showing Trump motioning his hands around the driver's head.
Fri Jul 15, 2022, 12:12 AM
Jul 2022

But the Secret Service tried to lie that it didn't happen. And erased their text messages from that day. There needs to be a major housecleaning at the Secret Service.

SunSeeker

(58,283 posts)
25. Here you go...
Fri Jul 15, 2022, 01:56 PM
Jul 2022

The snippet is repeatedly shown throughout this clip, first time at 3:00.

Kali

(56,829 posts)
26. dang!
Fri Jul 15, 2022, 02:47 PM
Jul 2022

I thought maybe it was like a dashboard camera - from inside. thought I might have really missed something good!

SunSeeker

(58,283 posts)
27. Maybe the Secret Service erased any dash cam from that day...
Fri Jul 15, 2022, 05:07 PM
Jul 2022

...like they did their texts.

BumRushDaShow

(169,761 posts)
19. Apparently that there WAS a "heated exchange" between 45 and the SS
Fri Jul 15, 2022, 07:45 AM
Jul 2022



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“This person has corroborated some of what Cassidy Hutchinson says.”

– CNN’s @evanperez reports that a DC police officer backed up some of the details surrounding former President Donald Trump’s alleged altercation in the limo with the Secret Service on January 6.
9:07 PM · Jul 14, 2022


When they do those motorcades (and before I retired, I would try to steer clear of them since I worked downtown near I-95 where that was used for the direct route to/from the airport), you not only have the feds with them (all sorts of units), but the local police participating as an escort ahead and behind.

For example, this was a video from when Biden was on his way to Robb Elementary in Uvalde -



Every one of those vehicles were part of the motorcade. All other vehicles are cleared from driving on the route until the motorcade has passed.

So in the case of 45 on January 6, you had piles of LEO there in addition to the SS - and probably moreso given this was at an outside event and someone (or many "someones" ) saw something. You would have local and state motorcycle patrols, local marked and unmarked vehicles (of all types - cars, vans, even buses), as well as trucks (the above video showed what looked like either a bomb squad and/or SWAT truck).
 

867-5309.

(1,189 posts)
21. Thanks for the info
Fri Jul 15, 2022, 08:32 AM
Jul 2022

Listening to the video, I'm still just getting that he corroborated something, but we don't know what.

The angry exchange is what's important. The stuff about Trump lunging for the wheel and grabbing someone by the throat is a distraction, imo. The important part is he was very determined to get to the Capitol.

Novara

(6,115 posts)
20. Because grabbing a steering wheel is more important than sending an armed mob to the Capitol?
Fri Jul 15, 2022, 08:24 AM
Jul 2022

Who cares? This is a fucking sideshow.

BumRushDaShow

(169,761 posts)
22. This is to not only establish "Dereliction of Duty", but intent
Fri Jul 15, 2022, 08:57 AM
Jul 2022

using a preponderance of evidence to show that what happened January 6 wasn't just "spontaneous", but was planned, coordinated, and sanctioned by the very top.

I.e., 45 would waltz into the middle of the crowds outside of the Capitol and declare victory while the Electoral Count tally was underway.

This revelation about the plan resulted in everyone around knowing that allowing that to happen would be even more explosive than what we saw eventually happen, and that was when THAT plan was thwarted - with the fuss that ensued described in the OP and earlier testimony.

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