Reports: 2 dead, 2 wounded in shooting at Indiana mall
Source: Cleveland 19 News
GREENWOOD, Ind. (Gray News) - Two people are dead and two are wounded after a shooting at an Indiana mall, reports say.
The shooting reportedly happened around 6 p.m. on Sunday.
Police responded to the scene and have said there is no known ongoing threat.
Authorities are asking people to avoid the area.
Read more: https://www.cleveland19.com/2022/07/17/reports-2-dead-2-wounded-shooting-indiana-mall/?fbclid=IwAR3IkKR5fsr2xIPfOfcYtDeGQ1B7u3A0mQSDAj6WaiX_NnKeam-xN884rv4
Another spree shooting at a mall. I'm scared for my children and grandchildren. I'm looking for hope, but it's hard. Vote like your life depends on it.
InAbLuEsTaTe
(25,518 posts)bringthePaine
(1,806 posts)AngryOldDem
(14,180 posts)So this is considered a mass shooting.
There will be no official update until about 9 EDT. The mall is just over the county line from Indianapolis, so the Greenwood police are the responsible authority for updates. Local news feed shows two buses at the mall, I guess to transport those who were sheltering in place. Nothing much more to report as of now.
Initech
(108,783 posts)purr-rat beauty
(1,257 posts)...100 rounds are burnt through?
more unnecessary death
oldsoftie
(13,538 posts)Yes, it does happen once in awhile
https://www.wdrb.com/news/at-least-3-dead-in-indianapolis-mall-shooting/article_277e385a-0628-11ed-8a5d-4b2038639bea.html
wnylib
(26,019 posts)another person with a gun shot the killer.
The last I heard, there are 4 dead and 2 injured.
samsingh
(18,426 posts)better gun laws and maybe no one needed to die
Mad_Machine76
(24,958 posts)is sort of sickening.
Sky Jewels
(9,148 posts)Mawspam2
(1,106 posts)AZLD4Candidate
(6,781 posts)
captain queeg
(11,780 posts)Or some private school for rich kids
Rebl2
(17,743 posts)been saying that for several years now.
newdayneeded
(2,493 posts)tavernier
(14,443 posts)It is pretty much a suburb of Indianapolis. When Im visiting my daughter a couple of times a year we go there a lot, mostly for the shopping and the restaurants.
My grown grandchildren live very close and shop there all the time. It seems like a friendly part of town. But then again, Indiana is the only place Ive seen someone walking around in a department store with an open gun at his hip.
DashOneBravo
(2,679 posts)GREENWOOD, Ind. (AP) Three people were fatally shot and two were injured Sunday evening at an Indiana mall after a man with a rifle opened fire in a food court and an armed civilian shot and killed him, police said.
The man entered the Greenwood Park Mall with a rifle and several magazines of ammunition and began firing in the food court, Greenwood Police Department Chief Jim Ison said.
A 22-year-old from nearby Bartholomew County who was legally carrying a firearm at the mall shot and killed the gunman, Ison said at a news conference.
https://www.usnews.com/news/us/articles/2022-07-17/2-killed-in-shooting-at-indiana-mall-many-hurt-police-say?context=amp
C Moon
(13,643 posts)(I'm guessing it was an assault rifle).
DashOneBravo
(2,679 posts)Last edited Mon Jul 18, 2022, 11:47 AM - Edit history (1)
Only thing you can do, is maybe pass a law to stop new sales. You cannot confiscate them.
After reading the article, Im wondering how he was carrying, as most malls are gun free zones. Same with movie theaters. Thats why they are often targets of mass shooters
DetroitLegalBeagle
(2,504 posts)And if I remember correctly, Indiana is similar to Michigan and the signs don't have any legal weight. Property owners can post them, but getting caught with gun would only result in a trespass charge and only after the person is asked to leave and refuses to do so.
AngryOldDem
(14,180 posts)And it would also depend on how strongly the owner would want to press trespassing charges.
DashOneBravo
(2,679 posts)Mad_Machine76
(24,958 posts)just became law less than a month ago here in Indiana.
AngryOldDem
(14,180 posts)Its constitutional carry. The state cannot infringe on the 2nd Amendment. Part of the licensing process was to see if there were any restrictions on an applicant having a weapon. Now, thanks to the folks who back the blue at any cost, cops have no way of knowing who should or should not be allowed to carry.
The ISP commissioner straight-up told the committee hearing this bill that this could get cops killed. But GUNZ
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GoodRaisin
(10,922 posts)except your home (for those who already own one). Also, set up a buy back program.
MarineCombatEngineer
(18,060 posts)How long do you think it would be before that would be struck down?
GoodRaisin
(10,922 posts)post 17 comment saying that you couldnt confiscate assault rifles. I agree with that and dont believe we would be able to do that even with a liberal court majority.
Really just offering up a thought about how to get a lot of AR15s off the streets, given a less partisan political ennvironment than the one we are in now. One in which there is possibility of legislative compromise. I know thats hard to envision.
MarineCombatEngineer
(18,060 posts)This unfettered access to these weapons has got to be curbed, how, i really wish I had the answer, but I'll leave that to far smarter people than me.
AngryOldDem
(14,180 posts)Another thing. The mall was a no gun zone. So now Im fully expecting the general assembly to take away the right of property owners to restrict firearms on their premises.
This fucking state just ❤️❤️❤️❤️ its guns. Until we get serious about this issue, all the tears, thoughts, prayers, and hand-wringing can just stop. This is what weve stepped up to with the gun worship.
Mad_Machine76
(24,958 posts)people are already talking about the mall's policy being "stupid" and thank god somebody else ignored the "policy" and shot the shooter.
maxsolomon
(38,729 posts)The Rampage Shootings are just background noise now.
tavernier
(14,443 posts)My grandkids were at that mall that morning. Grandson, wife, and four month old baby.
Judi Lynn
(164,125 posts)Indiana mall shooter brought multiple weapons, good Samaritan who shot him credited with saving countless lives
Officials identified the suspect in the Greenwood Park Mall shooting as Jonathan Douglas Sapirman, 20, and the man who fatally shot him as Elisjsha Dicken, 22.
July 18, 2022, 2:25 PM CDT / Updated July 18, 2022, 3:53 PM CDT
By Antonio Planas, Dennis Romero and Melina Chalkia
The suspected gunman in the Indiana mall mass shooting carried two rifles, a pistol and more than 100 rounds of ammo, authorities said Monday, and the good Samaritan who fatally shot him is credited with saving countless lives.
Three people were killed at the Greenwood Park Mall outside of Indianapolis on Sunday. Two others were injured and the gunman is also dead.
The suspected shooter was identified by officials as Jonathan Douglas Sapirman, 20, of Greenwood. Sapirman entered the Greenwood Park Mall and went into a restroom near the food court about 4:54 p.m. on Sunday, Greenwood Police Chief Jim Ison said Monday.
Sapirman stayed in the bathroom for 62 minutes, then exited and began firing near and into the mall's food court with a SIG Sauer rifle, killing three people.
More:
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/indiana-mall-shooter-brought-multiple-weapons-good-samaritan-shot-cred-rcna38755
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Jonathan Sapirman, Greenwood Mall suspect: 5 quick facts you need to know
NEWS
18/07/2022
Updated: 51 seconds ago
Zuncey T.
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Zuncey T.
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By 9:40 p.m., he wrote, police had confirmed that four people had died and two were injured, including a 12-year-old girl who suffered minor injuries. The shooter is among the four dead. The victims who died were named by the coroner as Pedro Pineda, 56, of Indianapolis; Rosa Mirian Rivera de Pineda, 37, from Indianapolis; and Victor Gomez, 30, of Indianapolis. The Pinedas were husband and wife.
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Greenwood Police Chief Jim Ison said in another news conference that the shooter was a man. There was one male victim and four female victims. The victims were between their early 20s and 30s. Two people were in stable condition. One of the victims was 12 years old but has only a small wound, a scratch on his back. When asked if anything happened before the shooting or if it was pure coincidence, Ison declined to comment. He said authorities are reviewing surveillance video.
More:https://latestpagenews.com/news/jonathan-sapirman-greenwood-mall-suspect-5-quick-facts-you-need-to-know/
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Killer of the killer.
Elisjsha Dicken