Secret service cannot retrieve texts: No new details for J6 committee

[PuraVidaDreamin]

Source: washington post

The U.S. Secret Service has determined it has no new texts to provide Congress relevant to its Jan. 6 investigation, and that any other texts its agents exchanged around the time of the 2021 attack on the Capitol were purged, according to a senior official briefed on the matter.

Also, the National Archives on Tuesday sought more information on “the potential unauthorized deletion” of agency text messages. The U.S. government’s chief record-keeper asked the Secret Service to report back to the Archives within 30 days about the deletion of any records, including describing what was purged and the circumstances of how the documentation was lost.

The law enforcement agency, whose agents have been embroiled in the Jan. 6 investigation because of their role shadowing and planning President Donald Trump’s movements that day, is expected to share this conclusion with the Jan. 6 committee in response to its Friday subpoena for texts and other records.

The agency, which made this determination after reviewing its communication databases over the past four days, will provide thousands of records, but nearly all of them have been shared previously with an agency watchdog and congressional committees, the senior official said. None is expected to shed new light on the key matters the committee is probing, including whether Trump attacked a Secret Service agent, an account a senior White House aide described to the Jan. 6 committee.

Read more: https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2022/07/19/secret-service-texts/

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OH HELL NO!

THIS IS FASCISM IN OUR FACES

[Schmice3]

1. Anonymous can find them.

[mopinko]

5. i've never seen anon fulfill a promise. the nsa on the other hand...

dhs, fbi, who knows.

[sybylla]

21. Same. Anon seems to be a lot of sound and fury signifying nothing.

This is definitely a national security issue, though. I'd like to think that not only are a few other agencies looking into this, but that the turds in charge at the SS will get fired and never get another job in government above a dog-catcher.

[orangecrush]

46. This

[no_hypocrisy]

8. Guccifer. Julian Assange. Wikileaks.

[mopinko]

41. c'mon. texts of the ss? you think they can break that kind of encryption?

would ya like to buy a bridge?

[regnaD kciN]

53. I'm sure they'd be ready and willing to help Democrats...

[mopinko]

2. schedule another meeting rfn, and get out the subpoena cannon.

[Samrob]

42. My granddaughter could probably retrieve them. 17 and a wiz. nt

[onecaliberal]

3. This is clearly a crime, I'm sure they'll be arrested any time.

[cutroot]

4. They should all be fired and prosecuted

[Lonestarblue]

27. Yes. Deleting federal records is a crime. Make an example of these rogue agents.

Also the J6 Committee should subpoena every agent in the WH or on Trump’s security team to testify about the messages they sent on January 5 and 6.

[C_U_L8R]

6. This is a crime scene

send in the FBI/NSA forensic teams

[cilla4progress]

7. Wow

...

[Ferrets are Cool]

9. BULLSHIT

[Mme. Defarge]

10. But her emails!

[highplainsdem]

11. The Trump Organization's version of the Secret Service. This is disgusting,

and everyone involved in this coverup should be prosecuted.

[gab13by13]

13. DOJ doesn't leak,

I'm sure it is on this.

[gab13by13]

12. Why isn't Alejandro Mayorkas involved in this?

Why is it the National Archives? The Secret Service falls under DHS, Mayorkas needs to call their asses on the carpet and give them until tomorrow to turn over the missing texts.

[GB_RN]

14. I Call Bullshite...

Text messages stay on AT&’s, Verizon’s, et al., servers, even if deleted from your phone. That’s why law enforcement can subpoena your service provider for them after the fact.

If these messages were on a government server instead, they should (and would) have been backed up. So, someone deleted the backup. Or, they’re lying.

Either way, we’re looking at some criminal activity. Those texts would be considered government records, and thus, have to be kept. Destroying government records is a crime. If they’re lying about not having them, THAT’S a crime.

Someone here is very likely fucked…eight ways to Sunday.

[Phoenix61]

35. Nope, text messages go away.

Verizon deletes the content after 3-5 days. Deletes other info after 1 year.

[Tetrachloride]

15. There is NO PROOF that the Secret Service tried.

no chain of evidence

[regnaD kciN]

54. Oh, I'm sure they made a major effort to recover them...

...undoubtedly led by the same experts who ran the second "background check" on Kavanaugh.

[Augiedog]

16. The cover up continues

[ancianita]

17. An inkling of the truth covered by confounding words so they don't have to take the 5th.

Purge is intentional. Lost is accidental.

The Nat'l Archives can present that they seem confused, and ask about how both were done, but we know, and they probably do, too, they can't have it both ways. They will ferret out from both answers what the truth likely was. Which is:
Either Jan 5 and 6 texts were lost or purged. They couldn't have been both. So the SS uses two words to confound and the National Archives plays along. What happened with even one Jan 5&6 text happened to them all.

Within a timeline.
By someone who reviewed them and made the decision to purge them and call them lost.
By a superior who directed the someone who ordered the purger.

No Such Agency? Can you help out here?

[oldtime dfl_er]

18. I call MASSIVE BS on this

I'm so sick and tired of the constant deception, lying, etc.

[captain queeg]

19. I'm sure this will be discussed at next public hearing

“We have filled in the blanks,” Rep. Adam Kinzinger, R-Ill., a member of the House committee investigating the riot who will help lead Thursday’s session, said Sunday. "This is going to open people’s eyes in a big way.”

“The president didn’t do very much but gleefully watch television during this timeframe,” he added.

[empedocles]

20. SS has undercut the trump appointee, will comply SS says now. - [still a mess]

'' . . . Rep. Adam Kinzinger (R-Ill.), another member of the committee, also expressed disbelief that the Secret Service would have erased any communications surrounding Jan. 6, blasting the agency for what he characterized as “conflicting” explanations.

https://thehill.com/policy/national-security/3564941-secret-service-set-to-turn-over-erased-jan-6-texts . . . ''

[captain queeg]

50. It's going to take a long time to purge the federal agencies of those he installed

You can look back and he didn’t even fill a lot of positions. Basically if it didn’t benefit him he ignored those positions. I guess we should be grateful, it could be worse. Unfortunately his court appointees are there for a long time to come.

[nowforever]

22. When you enable an insurrection

Gee, how did that happen. When your President is a corrupt ignoramus, with the emotional control of a 2 year old, and you enable him, you are as culpable as him Trump went right to the bottom of the barrel to find the best and brightest. How will Garland avoid upsetting anyone in the SS...Oh my! what a dilemma. Grow a pair Merrick...please.

[calimary]

34. Merrick the Disappointment.

I gave him the benefit of the doubt. Not anymore, though.

Now I can’t help but suspect he’s in the “I don’t wanna rock the boat” team. Maybe even team captain.

Still willing, even eager, to be proved wrong.

[gab13by13]

23. Why the fuck give them a month to get their story straight?

I guaran-fucking-tee that 1 month from now their story will be the same.

[CanonRay]

24. Who is going to jail for this?

[gab13by13]

25. The FBI investigated Hillary for 1 year, over her server,

and then absolved her.

I guarantee that Christopher Wray will not get involved with this.

I am waiting for someone from the wait and see crowd to call me a doom and gloomer again.

[CanonRay]

31. Except the FBI has no love lost for the USSS

and might enjoy giving them some pain.

[Mme. Defarge]

26. Nobody say it better.

[Midnight Writer]

28. So, are the Jan. 4 and Jan. 7 2021 messages intact? If so, these deletions are purposeful.

[Mme. Defarge]

29. Good question!

[machoneman]

30. Some gov agency must have them. Bet the CIA, NSA or other murky group does. Furthermore...

..J6 may have a lot of them already and is playing this out to catch the liars. Maybe I've watched too many movies but my money is on the worst texts springing up to catch the SS unawares. Let's hope I'm right.

[h2ebits]

32. Perhaps they used burner phones

[calimary]

33. Why am I not a bit surprised?

[area51]

56. +1 n/t

[Wuddles440]

36. Soooo....

very predictable! Nobody should be surprised.

[Stuart G]

58. The "Secret Service" has lost its reputation forever. This is not going to blow over..

It used to be a well thought of organization.

.......................It is now lost in a sea of "BULLSHIT".....

[ashredux]

37. He will get a Year...and once out he will keep on grifting

[dalton99a]

38. Clearly complicit in the plot.

[Kablooie]

39. I suspect they used an illegal third party app.

A secure app that deletes messages after they are read.
If an IT person was in on the plot he could have the ability to install an unapproved app like Telegram on the phones the complicit agents used.

[duckworth969]

44. That's an intriguing thought

[Botany]

40. Please

They didn't go to the cloud and they had no back up?

[jcgoldie]

43. dog ate em

what can you do?

[FakeNoose]

45. The Secret Service cannot investigate itself

This needs a special investigation - perhaps the FBI or another branch of Intelligence. Forensic systems guys know how to "find" and "undelete" stuff. The Secret Service isn't even trying.

Time to move on, guys. Start looking for new jobs, you'll be fired very shortly.

[NullTuples]

47. The agency that deleted them was the one to scrub - oh, sorry - "scour" systems for them?

This is letting bad cops do their own internal investigation.

[Rebl2]

48. I don't believe

this for a minute.

[Torchlight]

49. My guess is there a server

or series of servers, undisclosed, and not in the White Pages, that contains copies of this data. I'm pretty damned skeptical of the claim that the data is irretrievable; given the department's own resources and its desire to CYA, any claim made that it's gone for good gets a side-eye from me.

[Mysterian]

51. Biden needs to go nuclear with these assholes

Suspend the senior leaders at the Secret Service and send in the meanest, toughest, smartest investigators with crowbars and vise grips and find out wtf happened to those messages.

[Kid Berwyn]

52. No job remains. Nothing left standing.

Start the service anew. Staff it with people of integrity, for a change.

[zanana1]

55. Well they do it on TV.

[Quanto Magnus]

57. so we might

see a resignation or two for the 'error' or whatever they'll call it....

and whatever they're hiding will mostly remain hidden....

[tonekat]

59. In the voice of Dana Garvey's "Church Lady"

"How Conveeenient!"

[YoshidaYui]

60. Fuck The Secret Service

Let the FBI or Home Land Security investigate this bullshit!

[PuraVidaDreamin]

61. How trust worthy are these departments.

Everything has been infiltrated at some level by the christofascists.

Everything's broken.

[agalisgv]

62. From what I understand there are ways to retrieve deleted texts

Aren't there?