Axios: Trump Plotting Massive Purge Of Federal Workers
Source: Axios, via Joe.My.God.
Axios: Trump Plotting Massive Purge Of Federal Workers
July 22, 2022 Trump Corruption, Trump Lies
Axios reports:
Former President Trump’s top allies are preparing to radically reshape the federal government if he is re-elected, purging potentially thousands of civil servants and filling career posts with loyalists to him and his “America First” ideology, people involved in the discussions tell Axios. The impact could go well beyond typical conservative targets such as the Environmental Protection Agency and the Internal Revenue Service.
Trump allies are working on plans that would potentially strip layers at the Justice Department — including the FBI, and reaching into national security, intelligence, the State Department and the Pentagon, sources close to the former president say. The heart of the plan is derived from an executive order known as “Schedule F,” developed and refined in secret over most of the second half of Trump’s term and launched 13 days before the 2020 election.
Read the full article. Schedule F would reclassify tens of thousands of federal workers as “at will” employees that could be summarily fired without cause.
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Read more: https://www.joemygod.com/2022/07/axios-trump-plotting-massive-purge-of-federal-workers/
https://www.joemygod.com/2022/07/axios-trump-plotting-massive-purge-of-federal-workers/
links to
https://www.axios.com/2022/07/22/trump-2025-radical-plan-second-term
8 hours ago - Politics & Policy
Inside Trump '25
A radical plan for Trump’s second term
Jonathan Swan
Former President Trump’s top allies are preparing to radically reshape the federal government if he is re-elected, purging potentially thousands of civil servants and filling career posts with loyalists to him and his "America First” ideology, people involved in the discussions tell Axios.
The impact could go well beyond typical conservative targets such as the Environmental Protection Agency and the Internal Revenue Service. Trump allies are working on plans that would potentially strip layers at the Justice Department — including the FBI, and reaching into national security, intelligence, the State Department and the Pentagon, sources close to the former president say.
During his presidency, Trump often complained about what he called “the deep state.” ... The heart of the plan is derived from an executive order known as “Schedule F,” developed and refined in secret over most of the second half of Trump’s term and launched 13 days before the 2020 election.
The reporting for this series draws on extensive interviews over a period of more than three months with more than two dozen people close to the former president, and others who have firsthand knowledge of the work underway to prepare for a potential second term. Most spoke on condition of anonymity to describe sensitive planning and avoid Trump’s ire.
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underpants
(197,224 posts)Haven’t read it yet. Saw Swan in Morning Joe.
Samrob
(4,298 posts)
viva la
(4,639 posts)when they wanted to unionize.
But that wasn't "tens of thousands." OMG. Well, I hope the entire civil service and all their families realize what awaits them-
especially in Virginia, where thousands of them live.
Mr.Bill
(24,906 posts)They were fired when they did an illegal strike. They were in violation of a law dating back to 1955 which prohibited government workers from striking.
https://libraries.uta.edu/news-events/blog/1981-patco-strike
PortTack
(35,824 posts)Orrex
(67,404 posts)Short of that, I wish I could be confident that he stands no chance of reelection.
Evolve Dammit
(21,821 posts)
hedda_foil
(17,021 posts)This actually went through at the end of T's term. Biden rescinded it but it could easily be revived and that's the plan Team Evil has drawn up. Please read the full article.
Baitball Blogger
(52,733 posts)for professors and the "voluntary" political affiliation declaration. You have to identify the loyalists first, and then you can begin purges or loyalist appointments, whatever comes first.
certainot
(9,090 posts)from fakenewsradio.org FLORIDA 20 Florida 10, Florida St. 4 Miami 2, South Florida 2, Central Florida 2 ...... and what an astoundingly dumb path, to ignore that desantis needs dems to keep ignoring his free PR, the only reason he was close and the only reason he has a chance. at $1000/hr x 20 stations x 15 hrs a day that's $1.5M PER WEEK FREE for desantis, endorsed by the universities he and all limbaugh politicians depend on
he and trump are tools with no imagination but they follow the same dying limbaugh script for GOP success.
Baitball Blogger
(52,733 posts)
róisín_dubh
(12,380 posts)and as a University professor (though not in Florida) I can assure you that you're giving us way, way more power than we actually have.
University top-level administration and Boards of Governors (or Regents) could literally give a fuck what professors think. For god's sake, I wasn't allowed to require masks in my classroom. So please stop blaming the people who have no power to get rid of these radio stations. We simply cannot force those changes (christ some of us aren't even allowed to form unions...)
certainot
(9,090 posts)individual prof's influence but the problem is a general lack of knowledge of the problem.
i've heard local and national radio blowhards attack professors and teachers for sticking out, and i've heard them weigh in on the selection/elections of the regents/chancelors etc you're talking about - making sure they're republican and business-friendly and not 'too liberal'
i'm talking about knowing that there's a chorus of radio stations in every state that howled for months that COVID was a hoax and mask mandates are a liberal plot to.... whatever.
i'lll bet there are professors at the uni of syracuse, 150 miles from the buffalo shooting, that are active in gun regulation and worry about assault weapons on campus, who don't know their own school support 9 RW/NRA radio stations.
prof michael mann, famous climate scientist, was getting death threats because limbaugh was calling him and other climate scientists traitors to capitalism while he created "climategate" from a russian hack in 2009. mann's own penn state supports 11 limbaugh stations.
all professors and their students should know their own schools are working against them - on all issues ie - democracy, school funding, guns in schools, climate, science, intellectual freedom, etc.
as soon as that absurd situation is well known it will have to end quickly.
róisín_dubh
(12,380 posts)As someone dealing with an absolutely heartless administration right now, I'm very bitter and frustrated. So sorry if my post had it's share of snark.
certainot
(9,090 posts)sports being broadcast on right wing radio stations this angle might help in next turnover.......
or even if there's a major uni in your state doing it
those stations ALWAYS push defunding and privatization of public ed at the state and local levels. in some states where schools are trying to keep guns off campus their associated radio stations will always help the NRA beat those efforts.
to those stations all but the religious schools are infested with liberal commie teachers and professors
without that monopoly things would get better fast
Historic NY
(40,137 posts)
orthoclad
(4,831 posts)This story goes back to 2020. He tried to enact an executive order making it easy to reclassify civil service workers and expose them to arbitrary firing.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/trump-civil-service-biden/2021/01/18/5daf34c4-59b3-11eb-b8bd-ee36b1cd18bf_story.html
He also did the reverse: he reclassified political appointees to civil service, making it hard to fire them. This is why the civil service is now riddled with worms. I'd love to see how many people in sensitive positions in DoJ, Homeland Sec, EPA, USFWS, NOAA, etc., are Trump worms.
elleng
(141,926 posts)and too few of 'them.'
(I am retired, and not too mobile, but would get moving for such.)
Peregrine Took
(7,583 posts)elleng
(141,926 posts)orthoclad
(4,831 posts)Why did they do an about-face and decide vax was bad and covid was good, thus killing off many thousands of their voters? They are THAT confident that the fix is in. In October, the Supreme Court will hand Republican state legislatures the power to decide elections.
Meanwhile, their base minority has millions of assault rifles, and lots of lead votes.
"Vote multipliers"
NullTuples
(6,017 posts)Each level simply assures that those who answer to them are loyal.
elleng
(141,926 posts)Might be successful in a few designated 'important' agencies, but not more than that, imo.
NullTuples
(6,017 posts)But I do hope that you are right and I am very wrong.
Sky Jewels
(9,148 posts)that this treasonous, traitorous, criminal piece of crap would ever come within 1,000 miles of the White House ever again?! Lock him up!
PSPS
(15,377 posts)orthoclad
(4,831 posts)deciding in favor of "states rights" come October.
Their level of confidence is frightening. They no longer care how many people they alienate and piss off.
mahatmakanejeeves
(70,842 posts)Link to tweet
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Turbineguy
(40,214 posts)Trump just wants to run things into the ground. The COVID epidemic will be nothing compared to what we have in store.
I'll be investing in the funeral industry.
Jim__
(15,281 posts)We'll see if the American people want to save it.
dchill
(42,660 posts)sop
(19,370 posts)NullTuples
(6,017 posts)
Lonestarblue
(13,564 posts)He has turned Hungary into a barely disguised dictatorship by remaking the government into one with his loyalists and making sure that he has courts and government institutions that rubber stamp anything he wants to do. Republicans want to do the same to the US with themselves being the permanent country leaders. Getting rid of competent civil servants and installing the likes of Boebert and Greene is one way to ensure destruction of democracy. Somehow we must elect more Democrats to stave this off—and Democrats who want to add PR and DC as states.
Gaugamela
(3,577 posts)and eliminates deficit spending I predict a total global economic meltdown. Great Depression level stuff except now the majority of the population lives in cities instead of on farms and people would literally rip the country down.
BadgerKid
(5,030 posts)
Initech
(109,289 posts)
BumRushDaShow
(172,425 posts)Thankfully someone (I expect the various senior personnel specialists who have been there done that) were "thoroughly investigating" (slow-walking) this, otherwise it had been estimated that upwards of 80% of OPM's own personnel would have been reclassified.
Nicole Ogrysko@nogryskoWFED
February 24, 2021 5:42 pm
The House Oversight and Reform Committee is decidedly split on an agenda for the federal workforce.For Democrats, the last four years prove the civil service is vulnerable and needs more protection than ever after former President Donald Trump’s federal workforce policies. “Damage remains,” Gerry Connolly (D-Va.), chairman of the House Oversight and Reform Subcommittee on Government Operations, said Tuesday at a hearing on “revitalizing the federal workforce. “Clearly we have a lot of work ahead of us to rebuild our civil service.” Connolly said he’s interested in preserving collective bargaining, strengthening whistleblower protections and finding ways to improve diversity and inclusion in federal hiring.
“We will use what we learn here today to better understand weaknesses in the federal laws that are meant to enshrine merit system principles in perpetuity,” he said. Most of former President Donald Trump’s federal workforce policies were rescinded in the early days of the Biden administration. But that didn’t stop the vast majority of the subcommittee’s Republican members from asking about them. They were especially interested in Schedule F, which Trump established during the last few months of his presidency via executive order. “This was not an attempt to recreate a patronage system or politicize the civil service,” Rep. Jody Hice (R-Ga.), the subcommittee’s ranking member, said of Schedule F.
“This was a reflection of this reality — that feds in policymaking positions wield tremendous power to implement or hinder the administration’s agenda, whatever administration that might be.” The order allowed agency heads to reclassify certain policy-making positions into a new schedule of quasi-political appointees known as Schedule F. Career federal employees would have lost their civil service protections in the process, meaning their agency heads could have fired them — and hired new replacements — at will. Biden rescinded Schedule F on his third day in office, and there are no indications that agencies found time to reclassify career feds into the new excepted service category. One agency, the Office of Management and Budget, came close.
“It had to be done immediately,” Janice Lachance, former OPM director during the Clinton administration, said of the actions Biden took to repeal Schedule F. “We had to send a signal right away, that this sort of cherry-picking, of deciding who stays and who goes had to end, and it had to end immediately. However, I do think that the Congress should take a very, very careful look of whether those decisions should be the purview of a single president of either party or of any party.” For Connolly and some committee Democrats, the Schedule F debate shed light on the vulnerability of the civil service, and they believe Congress should do more to protect and preserve it.
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https://federalnewsnetwork.com/workforce/2021/02/schedule-f-is-gone-but-the-debate-continues-in-congress/
There should be "no debate". They need to ditch this idea or if they go with it, keep it extremely limited and amend the last Civil Service Act so that the Executive Branch is restricted from making up shit using a perceived loophole, to essentially throw out the whole Civil Service system.
orthoclad
(4,831 posts)reclassifying political appointees to civil service, so that they could not be removed without cause. Called "burrowing in".
https://presidentialtransition.org/blog/political-appointee-burrowing-in/
BumRushDaShow
(172,425 posts)Those were the embedded booby traps left behind.
orthoclad
(4,831 posts)Buffoons like Trump are useful, but disposable.
They keep replaying that trickle down music from the Reagan age, dangling shiny things, stoking rage, and laughing to the bank. For the last 40 years, they've been breaking unions, packing the courts, and buying up the media. The Fairness Doctrine is gone and Reagan installed Murdoch (Morlock?). We're seeing the fruition now.
BumRushDaShow
(172,425 posts)is still around behind the scenes - Newt Gingrich.
I post this often -
Newt Gingrich turned partisan battles into bloodsport, wrecked Congress, and paved the way for Trump’s rise. Now he’s reveling in his achievements.
Story by McKay Coppins
November 2018 Issue
Updated on October 17, 2018
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On June 24, 1978, Gingrich stood to address a gathering of College Republicans at a Holiday Inn near the Atlanta airport. It was a natural audience for him. At 35, he was more youthful-looking than the average congressional candidate, with fashionably robust sideburns and a cool-professor charisma that had made him one of the more popular faculty members at West Georgia College. But Gingrich had not come to deliver an academic lecture to the young activists before him—he had come to foment revolution.
“One of the great problems we have in the Republican Party is that we don’t encourage you to be nasty,” he told the group. “We encourage you to be neat, obedient, and loyal, and faithful, and all those Boy Scout words, which would be great around the campfire but are lousy in politics.” For their party to succeed, Gingrich went on, the next generation of Republicans would have to learn to “raise hell,” to stop being so “nice,” to realize that politics was, above all, a cutthroat “war for power”—and to start acting like it.
The speech received little attention at the time. Gingrich was, after all, an obscure, untenured professor whose political experience consisted of two failed congressional bids. But when, a few months later, he was finally elected to the House of Representatives on his third try, he went to Washington a man obsessed with becoming the kind of leader he had described that day in Atlanta. The GOP was then at its lowest point in modern history. Scores of Republican lawmakers had been wiped out in the aftermath of Watergate, and those who’d survived seemed, to Gingrich, sadly resigned to a “permanent minority” mind-set. “It was like death,” he recalls of the mood in the caucus. “They were morally and psychologically shattered.”
But Gingrich had a plan. The way he saw it, Republicans would never be able to take back the House as long as they kept compromising with the Democrats out of some high-minded civic desire to keep congressional business humming along. His strategy was to blow up the bipartisan coalitions that were essential to legislating, and then seize on the resulting dysfunction to wage a populist crusade against the institution of Congress itself. “His idea,” says Norm Ornstein, a political scientist who knew Gingrich at the time, “was to build toward a national election where people were so disgusted by Washington and the way it was operating that they would throw the ins out and bring the outs in.”
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https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2018/11/newt-gingrich-says-youre-welcome/570832/
orthoclad
(4,831 posts)was a key part of the raygun revolution. And the model is still working:
"seize on the resulting dysfunction to wage a populist crusade"
Break it. Then when people are angry about the dysfunction, give them targets. It helps to have a pet propaganda machine, enabled by Reagan.
BumRushDaShow
(172,425 posts)and will suddenly bubble up on news shows every once in awhile to stoke the MAGats, and then will recede back in the shadows in a supportive role.
A well-known Princeton professor and contributor on cable news recently published a book on him and his role in tearing up the political process to reshape the Republican party.
orthoclad
(4,831 posts)There is so much documentation out there that I just can't bear to read, for my peace of mind. For instance, I started following People's Convoy news as light entertainment compared to Ukraine, economy, etc. Then they got violent and morphed into the nutcase "1776" cult squatting on the national mall and harassing a J6 witness. The only way to escape the lethal pablum is to disappear into the Metaverse(tm). Hmm. Good timing, Zuck!
But to address your point: we're seeing the culmination of the Reagan era. Yes, he was just another entertainer figurehead, but he acted to create this current reality: Fox, trickle down, fossil fuel over solar, corporations over government, Republican solidarity. He said something to the efftect of "never criticize a fellow Republican"; in other words: party before country; party discipline; power at any price. Never mind that nowadays he'd be a lame RINO. Gingrich was one of the brains behind the TV actor throne. Now we're in Death Valley Days. Brought to you by 20 Mule Team Borax!
NH Ethylene
(31,397 posts)He doesn't want everybody talking about last night's hearing.
LudwigPastorius
(15,024 posts)OK, the comparison is a little over-the-top.
...but, only a little.
BlueIdaho
(13,582 posts)Period.
Cha
(320,742 posts)Focus!
Please Fight to Save Our Democracy💙 in 2022 & 2024!
orthoclad
(4,831 posts)will do the same.
Trump will be the patsy for the oligarchs, and the next in line will carry the torch.
DBoon
(25,156 posts)Who would be cheering on the decimation of "national security, intelligence, the State Department and the Pentagon"?
Hint: name starts with a "p" and ends with "utin".
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YoshidaYui
(45,814 posts)He will probably disolve CONGRESS and use the Supreme court to knight him as GOD EMPOROR ... FOR Life.. and his followers will drop to their knees to kiss his rings...and this country will never see Democracy again!
Stuart G
(38,726 posts)Why? You ask?
...The last day's Congressional Hearings will prevent that. Yes, Trump still has 30% if the vote, but 30% is not enough to get
elected..even with the "Electoral College".. His failure to do anything at all during the "riot" is the end of his political career.
....He sat by the TV and did nothing.
....Yes, 30% is not enough during these times. What with the ultimate conversation about him doing nothing but watch the TV during the riot, I don't think Trump can get elected to anything, ever at all
When the polls come out, about the last nights episode of the Trump sitting on his ass story, it is my opinion that Donald Trump will not even be nominated for "dog catcher"...Yes, he will be nominated for "Sh*t Picker Upper"...but.... .
I doubt that he will accept the nomination, let alone, the job.
world wide wally
(21,836 posts)Are Republicans suicidal en masse?
orthoclad
(4,831 posts)that the vote will be suppressed or overridden by legislatures. The Supreme Court is due to rule on election "states rights" in October. Just before the mid-terms.
paleotn
(22,760 posts)Cha
(320,742 posts)
Focus!
Please Fight to Save Our Democracy💙 in 2022 & 2024! 
SKKY
(12,811 posts)...I know a lot of older Veterans who, while they love Trump, they love the VA way more. So, yea. I guess what I would say to them is, fuck around and find out.
Botany
(77,883 posts)He won't be. Trump got his ass beat in both prior elections by 3 million in '16 & 8 million in '20 and
if it wasn't for the electoral college and Russia he would no ever have been in the White House.
By 2024 TFG will either be dead or in prison. Both of which negates any Presidential run.
milestogo
(23,205 posts)Stuart G
(38,726 posts)Can Scott be elected to the office of "President of the U.S." with his views on how to run the nation? We will
see, but my guess is ..NO..because he is anti this & that. But this business about Scott is the future.
No one can tell the future.
I never expected Trump to be elected ever to anything.
867-5309.
(1,189 posts)SouthernDem4ever
(6,619 posts)I am so sick of his shit. He and his asshole followers need to find a deserted island to ruin.
Kid Berwyn
(25,128 posts)
LetMyPeopleVote
(182,234 posts)We cannot let TFG become POTUS again. If TFG is re-elected or steals the next election, our democratic form of government will end.
LetMyPeopleVote
(182,234 posts)TFG's plan is to attack the so-called administrative state by firing everyone who does not support TFG. This would mean that tons of jobs would be eliminated, and the Federal Govt. would cease to be able to perform any functions
Link to tweet
https://www.rawstory.com/donald-trump-jim-jordan/
On Friday, Jonathan Swan reported that a Trump executive order signed in October 2020 before he lost the election in November to Joe Biden that would have allowed him to reclassify up to 50,000 federal workers and deny them job protections they currently enjoy. While President Biden has rescinded the order, Axios reports that close advisors to Trump --with the help of the former president -- would make it happen if he should be re-elected.
According to Swan, "Even if Schedule F is not reimposed — or if it comes back but is then limited by Congress or the courts — experts say there are already so many existing exemptions across the federal bureaucracy that a future president determined to pursue mass firings would have plenty to work with. Someone with Trump’s willpower will find a new methodology if Schedule F falls," adding, "Some in conservative legal circles say that the major civil service laws dating to the 1800s are all arguably unconstitutional and that it should be up to a president who stays and goes on their watch. Testing the limits of that theory would put the question before the courts."
Ohio conservative Jordan, who could be installed as the chair of the House Judiciary Committee should Republicans regain control of the House in the November midterms, is insisting that the former president make good on the threat.
Hotler
(13,747 posts)round up and imprison or kill democrats and liberals. Their voters will demand it.