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MissMillie

(38,580 posts)
Tue Jul 26, 2022, 02:18 PM Jul 2022

Obamacare back in court as Texans challenge coverage for STDs and HIV care

Source: Politico via MSN

A key piece of the Affordable Care Act is on trial Tuesday as a group of Texans challenge the law’s requirement that insurers cover preventive services — everything from STD screenings and HIV prevention drugs to depression checks and flu shots.

The case before Judge Reed O’Connor — the author of several anti-Obamacare rulings — at the U.S. District Court for the Northern District of Texas is the latest conservative-led legal effort to undermine the 12-year-old law, and could determine whether insurance companies are allowed to deny coverage or charge sky-high copays for common preventive care going forward.

This challenge, filed in March of 2020 by a group of Texas residents and employers and backed by former Trump officials, argues that the ACA’s preventive care mandates violate the Religious Freedom Restoration Act and that forcing people to pay for plans that cover STD screenings and HIV prevention drugs will "facilitate and encourage homosexual behavior, prostitution, sexual promiscuity, and intravenous drug use."




Read more: https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/obamacare-back-in-court-as-texans-challenge-coverage-for-stds-and-hiv-care/ar-AAZZ83R?ocid=U483DHP&pc=U483&cvid=2dd7d795bd3d4c3ba7a432e8d3c76cac



The "pro-life" party is at it again.

This suit has two goals that I can see: 1) prevent people from getting health care, and 2) bankrupt the ACA.

Why does the GOP hate Americans so much?
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Obamacare back in court as Texans challenge coverage for STDs and HIV care (Original Post) MissMillie Jul 2022 OP
Better question inthewind21 Jul 2022 #1
They only hate working people nt XanaDUer2 Jul 2022 #2
You know why they want to end HIV prevention Diamond_Dog Jul 2022 #3
my first thought Evolve Dammit Jul 2022 #14
Cause republican Jesus told them to mountain grammy Jul 2022 #4
Their version of Jesus is much worse than one who would ally with the money-changers in the temple. xocetaceans Jul 2022 #13
So now the GQP want to decide which illnesses are in gawd's plan. sinkingfeeling Jul 2022 #5
Not this shit again IronLionZion Jul 2022 #6
In the not so distant past, this suit wouldn't be much to worry about. But ... ificandream Jul 2022 #7
It's because God won't let them off the hook unless the USA becomes a Christian theocracy. xocetaceans Jul 2022 #8
When I worked for a shithole company years ago (they no longer exist) IronLionZion Jul 2022 #9
sounds like a good group of Goopers. Evolve Dammit Jul 2022 #15
That sounds familiar. ChazInAz Jul 2022 #26
Odd line of thinking IronLionZion Jul 2022 #29
They didn't care. ChazInAz Jul 2022 #34
"forcing people to pay for plans"? If they don't like the terms, don't buy a plan. Midnight Writer Jul 2022 #10
I think what they mean is that MissMillie Jul 2022 #11
No to mention, MissMillie, slightlv Jul 2022 #19
GOP motto: No low too low. ananda Jul 2022 #12
These people are not even close to following Christ.... ashredux Jul 2022 #16
Dominionists feel slightlv Jul 2022 #21
There's no hate like Christian love n/t hibbing Jul 2022 #24
Nobody should get help Turbineguy Jul 2022 #17
Projecting again Bayard Jul 2022 #18
Zacly elleng Jul 2022 #20
I don't know how they can say this. I wonder if there is any actual evidence of this. AZLD4Candidate Jul 2022 #27
Good grief, this isn't the Onion Warpy Jul 2022 #22
Judge Reed O'Connor is an activist judge; this case is crafted to go before the SCOTUS NullTuples Jul 2022 #23
Thank you, Green Party people, for voting for Jill Stein so this madness can destroy us AZLD4Candidate Jul 2022 #25
We won the house in 2018 because people thought they would lose their health care - let's do it iluvtennis Jul 2022 #28
This is all about what made Dump go after the ACA again and again. ificandream Jul 2022 #30
The Death Party. paleotn Jul 2022 #31
This is just fucking evil and hurts all Americans. SunSeeker Jul 2022 #32
The Forced Birth Party or the, Gilead Party! Going to Canada Jul 2022 #33

Diamond_Dog

(32,068 posts)
3. You know why they want to end HIV prevention
Tue Jul 26, 2022, 02:22 PM
Jul 2022

Their anti - gay agenda.

It’s anyone’s guess why they want to end STD screenings. But I’m sure it’s some vile agenda of theirs.

xocetaceans

(3,873 posts)
13. Their version of Jesus is much worse than one who would ally with the money-changers in the temple.
Tue Jul 26, 2022, 03:11 PM
Jul 2022

Here is something I encountered as a result of tracing some anti-vaxxer's Twitter postings - that in itself was a trip down delusional lane.

If you listen to the lyrics, it becomes evident that their version of Jesus is one who is returning to end the world with sword. The "song" talks about Jesus separating the strong from the weak and not in a the-meek-shall-inherit-the-Earth sort of way. The chosen graphic of an angry Anglo-Jesus says it all.

Here's an excerpt from about 02:47 in the video.

"The King is coming back and he [sic] jacking the sheep. His mighty hand will expand, and it's smashing the weak."


So much for the idea of Jesus/Lord as a shepherd, I suppose.





IronLionZion

(45,534 posts)
6. Not this shit again
Tue Jul 26, 2022, 02:42 PM
Jul 2022


RW think tanks have cases planned out and ready to go up to the RW supreme court to undo any good that has ever passed through congress. These assholes are relentless.

As if straight people don't hget STDs. The old people at The Villages have tons of STDs. The Matt Gaetz type probably get STDs through his professional network. And whatever cocaine orgies Madison Cawthorne was involved in.

ificandream

(9,387 posts)
7. In the not so distant past, this suit wouldn't be much to worry about. But ...
Tue Jul 26, 2022, 02:43 PM
Jul 2022

... that's not the case now. Hopefully, this case shot down. In which case, of course, they'll appeal.

xocetaceans

(3,873 posts)
8. It's because God won't let them off the hook unless the USA becomes a Christian theocracy.
Tue Jul 26, 2022, 02:47 PM
Jul 2022

One semi-fundamentalist Christian once told me essentially that God engages in the collective punishment of nations which do not follow God's laws.

That was in response to me asking him how specifically gay people (he had been talking loudly about some anti-gay Limbaugh rant) and other groups (which he at that moment less loudly disdained) affected his life.

So, that must be at least a partial answer to the question of why they actually hate the current state of the USA. Much more could lie behind their delusions, though.

It's pretty clear that their fundamentalist religion, their resulting need to control everyone and their inability to think outside of their own personal circumstances all contribute to what they are seeking to do.


IronLionZion

(45,534 posts)
9. When I worked for a shithole company years ago (they no longer exist)
Tue Jul 26, 2022, 02:48 PM
Jul 2022

they complained that the employees were using too much mental health and substance abuse treatment and it was costing too much. All part of ACA coverage. They also inexplicably complained that young employees were using too much healthcare

There are many reasons why that company ceases to exist. Terrible toxic management was one of them.

ChazInAz

(2,572 posts)
26. That sounds familiar.
Tue Jul 26, 2022, 04:57 PM
Jul 2022

I used to work in Tucson's biggest and oldest hospital. We actually had an all-staff meeting directing us not to use our health insurance so much, for that very reason.

IronLionZion

(45,534 posts)
29. Odd line of thinking
Tue Jul 26, 2022, 05:50 PM
Jul 2022

1. I would think some of that money would go back into the hospital if you get treatment there
2. They don't want healthy employees?

ChazInAz

(2,572 posts)
34. They didn't care.
Wed Jul 27, 2022, 12:43 AM
Jul 2022

The insurer was not happy about the expenses involved, and made it known to upper management.
For example: there was a huge number of carpal tunnel cases in food service among the cooks. The insurance company declared a moratorium on surgeries for that. My own bad hearing was damaged even more by the intense noise level in the kitchen. Staff had to shout at one another to be heard over the convection ovens, steamers, ventilation hoods, steam jacket kettles. When OSHA was finally roused out of its slumber to pay attention, management had one of the office workers wear a sensor to measure the decibel levels. Very quiet in the office...

MissMillie

(38,580 posts)
11. I think what they mean is that
Tue Jul 26, 2022, 03:01 PM
Jul 2022

the ACA is supported by tax dollars.

But I don't get while that argument holds any sway.

My tax dollars funded an immoral invasion of a country that did not attack the U.S.

slightlv

(2,840 posts)
19. No to mention, MissMillie,
Tue Jul 26, 2022, 03:54 PM
Jul 2022

that our tax dollars are now being used to fund so many of *their* fundamentalist religious preferences, i.e., parochial schools, etc. As a member of a Pagan religion, I certainly don't support my tax dollars going to support THEIR religion at the expense of mine! And I daresay, they won't willingly shunt any of that money to support any Pagan religions! /s

ashredux

(2,609 posts)
16. These people are not even close to following Christ....
Tue Jul 26, 2022, 03:23 PM
Jul 2022

1 John 4:21

“And this commandment we have from Him, that the one who loves God should love his brother also.”

These folks Hate….

slightlv

(2,840 posts)
21. Dominionists feel
Tue Jul 26, 2022, 04:02 PM
Jul 2022

anything they do in the name of their Lord is forgiven. That means absolutely anything -- lie, cheat, steal, even murder is forgiven as on as they do it the name of God with "His" will as the reason. Of course, it used to be we committed anyone who swore they knew what the will of God was, especially if they heard God speak to them. Today, the crazier they talk (especially in tongues) the more they're believed! It's an upside-down world that somehow we have to turn back right-side up!

I'm not Christian; if I never step foot inside a church again at this point it'll be too soon... especially after all this mess. Count me as one sick of what these people have done to Xtianity, even though I know its nothing but a bastardization of the religious faith. But right now, hubby and I both are sick of this "majority religion" and would like to see it made into a "minority religion" by any means possible. They think they're threatened now in the U.S.? I'd like to see them actually threatened. But it's hard... because I'm not talking about those who are actually trying to follow the teachings of Christ. But just calling yourself a Christian doesn't make yourself one. And these people are NOT Christians. They're playacting at their own religion. They've all but made it up out of whole cloth, with just enough of the trappings from the Bible to fool the gullible. I'd say "Shame on them" if they had any shame left in them.

Bayard

(22,154 posts)
18. Projecting again
Tue Jul 26, 2022, 03:46 PM
Jul 2022

"facilitate and encourage homosexual behavior, prostitution, sexual promiscuity, and intravenous drug use." Historically, rethuglicans have more of a problem with these behaviors.

Warpy

(111,352 posts)
22. Good grief, this isn't the Onion
Tue Jul 26, 2022, 04:04 PM
Jul 2022

Is anyone in that party normal ore they all sex phobic freaks who scuttle about in the shadows violating children while screeching and pointing their fingers at everybody else?

Can't live with 'em, still illegal to shoot 'em.

The purpose of health care is to screen for and treat illness. The purpose of health insurance is to make sure health care workers get paid for their efforts.

What about this do they refuse to grasp?

Disgusting, all of them.

NullTuples

(6,017 posts)
23. Judge Reed O'Connor is an activist judge; this case is crafted to go before the SCOTUS
Tue Jul 26, 2022, 04:23 PM
Jul 2022

Google him; he uses the Bible to justify his rulings and sometimes just good ol' Republican "common sense". Then he imposes it on a national scale via an injunction that goes far beyond the case at hand.

AZLD4Candidate

(5,768 posts)
25. Thank you, Green Party people, for voting for Jill Stein so this madness can destroy us
Tue Jul 26, 2022, 04:56 PM
Jul 2022

But, knowing how smug they are, they will say TFG and Hillary were two sides of the same coin. Liberal gadflies would cut of their noses to spite their lungs and face.

iluvtennis

(19,874 posts)
28. We won the house in 2018 because people thought they would lose their health care - let's do it
Tue Jul 26, 2022, 05:44 PM
Jul 2022

again in 2022.

So fkn tired of these Dr Death rethuglicans.

ificandream

(9,387 posts)
30. This is all about what made Dump go after the ACA again and again.
Tue Jul 26, 2022, 05:52 PM
Jul 2022

It's all about their hatred of President Obama. I hope this ACA obsession is their downfall. It would be justice.

Going to Canada

(169 posts)
33. The Forced Birth Party or the, Gilead Party!
Tue Jul 26, 2022, 10:33 PM
Jul 2022

They never talk about paying for a man's erectile medications. Right?

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