Justice Dept. investigating Trump's actions in Jan. 6 criminal probe
Source: Washington Post
The Justice Department is investigating President Donald Trumps actions as part of its criminal probe of efforts to overturn the 2020 election results, according to four people familiar with the matter.
Prosecutors who are questioning witnesses before a grand jury including two top aides to Vice President Mike Pence have asked in recent days about conversations with Trump, his lawyers, and others in his inner circle who sought to substitute Trump allies for certified electors from some states Joe Biden won, according to two people familiar with the matter. Both spoke on the condition of anonymity to discuss an ongoing investigation.
The prosecutors have asked hours of detailed questions about meetings Trump led in December 2020 and January 2021; his pressure campaign on Pence to overturn the election; and what instructions Trump gave his lawyers and advisers about fake electors and sending electors back to the states, the people said. Some of the questions focused directly on the extent of Trumps involvement in the fake-elector effort led by his outside lawyers, including John Eastman and Rudy Giuliani, these people said.
In addition, Justice Department investigators in April received phone records of key officials and aides in the Trump administration, including his former chief of staff, Mark Meadows, according to two people familiar with the matter. That effort is another indicator of how expansive the Jan. 6 probe had become, well before the high-profile, televised House hearings in June and July on the subject.
Read more: https://www.washingtonpost.com/national-security/2022/07/26/trump-justice-investigation-january-6/
BumRushDaShow
(169,757 posts)herding cats
(20,049 posts)And, this one was burning my fingers it's so hot!
BumRushDaShow
(169,757 posts)Was trying to format paragraphs and whatnot.
It's all yours!
herding cats
(20,049 posts)The negativity was getting grim (which I get) and I'm hoping some good indications might help ease some anxiety.
BumRushDaShow
(169,757 posts)And I was also heartened to hear that the J6 Committee was now only on a "summer break" and would continue in September "with public hearings" (at least according to a CBS radio report I heard a couple days ago). I think the original expectation was that the last prime-time hearing would have been the "final one" before the report but obviously "the dam has burst" so we have to "stay tuned"! In fact, I think CBS even called it an ultimate "cliff-hanger".
electric_blue68
(26,856 posts)herding cats
(20,049 posts)electric_blue68
(26,856 posts)electric_blue68
(26,856 posts)herding cats
(20,049 posts)Slap it together on the iPad and just get it out there!
Seriously, BRDS does a much better post format.
BumRushDaShow
(169,757 posts)herding cats
(20,049 posts)You update your posts, give background and visuals to meet anyones taste.
Me: "Oh, my goodness! Someone post this, now!! Ugh, fine I'm going in, but you're not going to love my delivery!"
BumRushDaShow
(169,757 posts)News junky!!!!
BumRushDaShow
(169,757 posts)By Maggie Haberman and Glenn Thrush
July 26, 2022, 9:55 p.m. ET
Federal prosecutors have directly asked witnesses in recent days about former President Donald J. Trumps involvement in efforts to reverse his election loss, a person familiar with the testimony said on Tuesday, suggesting that the Justice Departments criminal investigation has moved into a more aggressive and politically fraught phase.
Mr. Trumps personal role in elements of the push to overturn his loss in 2020 to Joseph R. Biden Jr. has long been established, both through his public actions and statements and evidence gathered by the House committee investigating the Jan. 6 attack.But the Justice Department has been largely silent about how and even whether it would weigh pursuing potential charges against Mr. Trump, and reluctant even to concede that his role was discussed in senior leadership meetings at the department.
Asking questions about Mr. Trump in connection with the electors plot or the attack on the Capitol does not mean the Justice Department has opened a criminal investigation into him, a decision that would have immense political and legal ramifications.
The departments investigation into a central element of the push to keep Mr. Trump in office the plan to name slates of electors pledged to Mr. Trump in battleground states won by Mr. Biden now appears to be accelerating as prosecutors with the U.S. attorneys office in Washington ask witnesses about Mr. Trump and members of his inner circle, including the White House chief of staff, Mark Meadows, the person familiar with the testimony said.
(snip)
https://www.nytimes.com/2022/07/26/us/politics/trump-jan-6-justice-department.html
(obviously had to wait for "queen" Haberman to "approve"
JudyM
(29,785 posts)Just today, another DUer was saying that there havent been any leaks in Garlands previous high profile prosecutions
herding cats
(20,049 posts)It helped me, I hope it helped others, too.
JudyM
(29,785 posts)Sky Jewels
(9,148 posts)ancianita
(43,307 posts)MarineCombatEngineer
(18,060 posts)Fiendish Thingy
(23,236 posts)My guess is the sources for this article are connected to Pence and his staff.
Generic Brad
(14,374 posts)He's being investigated? Why has he not been indicted?
He's been indicted? Why is he not in jail?
He's in jail? What about all the other crimes he got a free pass on?
Nothing will ever be good enough because then some folks would have to admit they were 100% wrong all along.
Response to Generic Brad (Reply #18)
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ShazzieB
(22,590 posts)That's why I quit trying to argue with them.
Some have said that they will be happy to admit they were wrong if things turn out better than they expect, but that remains to be seen.
fightforfreedom
(4,913 posts)machoneman
(4,128 posts)gab13by13
(32,321 posts)PA_jen
(1,114 posts)gab13by13
(32,321 posts)DOJ has been investigating Trump at least from last April. Claire McCaskill is pleasantly surprised, she should also apologize.
DOJ has Mark Meadow's phone records from April, that means that DOJ is going after Trump. I said when DOJ investigates Meadows DOJ is investigating Trump.
DOJ can indict Meadows or flip Meadows, or both. Donald Trump better hurry up and announce he is running for president, but alas, I think he's too late.
I sincerely apologize for doubting Merrick Garland, he runs a tight ship, the Meadow's investigation did not leak.
Go get em Merrick, and go get em Fani. Trump can be indicted by both state and federal prosecutors.
Beastly Boy
(13,283 posts)My hat's off to you for keeping your word.
herding cats
(20,049 posts)Look, the thing is we've all felt like a proverbial Charlie Brown with Lucy and the football before.
This one is bigger than anything previous and truly a fight for our democracy. Of course our tensions are going to be escalating. We've all been through some serious crap no one ever could have imagined happening the way it did. Yet it did, and easily could again, as we now know. I'm hopeful our AG is going to also recognize the code red level we're on and make it obvious a second coup attempt will not be tolerated. This is new territory, toxic territory of new levels never seen before.
We all needed some good news to either assuage our concerns or at least make us shake our shoulders out a touch. We all needed a moment to breathe.
onetexan
(13,913 posts)He's as selfserving and greedy as the Con is. He w do it to get a plea deal.
MarineCombatEngineer
(18,060 posts)mcar
(46,056 posts)gab13by13
(32,321 posts)I always called him honorable. I worried that he would be cautious in indicting a former president, doing so is a momentous decision.
Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin
(135,713 posts)YoshidaYui
(45,415 posts)lock him up!
electric_blue68
(26,856 posts)🤞👍🤞🤞👍
: handcuffs: 👍👍👍👍👍
gab13by13
(32,321 posts)I called for investigations. What this does is send a message to Magats in the states that DOJ means business, beyond the mob that stormed the Capitol.
This was sorely needed for them to hear that DOJ is investigating Trump.
Merrick Garland may eventually decide not to indict Trump, and that is fine with me, he will know what's best.
I worry about my state, Pa., Mastriano is on the ballot, investigations of him need to be done quickly. A couple of big donors are pouring millions of dollars into Mastriano's campaign.
Cha
(319,076 posts)herding cats
(20,049 posts)We all needed this boost right now. Nice that it's on the heels of both Garland's Lester Holt interview and the NYT's explosive reporting on the idiot's emails regarding the the "fake" electors scam.
It was a BIG day for us!
Cha
(319,076 posts)Novara
(6,115 posts)This is what everyone's been asking for.
I'm really impressed at how leak-proof this has been.
LudwigPastorius
(14,725 posts)should be fairly easy to prove.
What I really want for Christmas, though, is seditious conspiracy. That's the one with the max 20 year prison sentence.
But, I'll happily take 3 to 5 years for the fake elector scheme.
Bayard
(29,693 posts)dalton99a
(94,118 posts)867-5309.
(1,189 posts)"It is not evident that Trump himself is a target of the investigation, only that that prosecutors are asking questions related to him and his aides."
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/trump-jan-6-justice-department-investigation-allies/
At times we read into things what we'd like to be true.
Torchlight
(6,830 posts)Which is much different than simply reading into things (an example of that being, "I believe she will because so much is at stake" )
purr-rat beauty
(1,257 posts)And when things got messy, he didn't respond
He told the attackers that he loved them
He edited his reaction to the attack to soften the blow to his followers