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AZLD4Candidate

(5,678 posts)
Mon Aug 1, 2022, 09:29 AM Aug 2022

NFL suspends Deshaun Watson 6 games for personal conduct violations

Source: Yahoo Sports

The NFL suspended Cleveland Browns quarterback Deshaun Watson for six games on Monday for violating the league’s personal conduct policy.

The decision was rendered in response to the NFL’s investigation of multiple women who filed civil lawsuits against Watson before he settled with 23 of them; one of those suits remains. The women, whom Watson hired for massages, accused the QB of sexual misconduct or sexual assault.

Watson will be eligible to return to the Browns in Week 7.

As part of its probe, the league’s investigators spoke to at least 10 of the women who originally filed litigation against Watson. A source told Yahoo Sports the NFL obtained information from the pretrial process in those civil lawsuits, none of which was sealed by presiding judges. The pretrial process included Watson sitting for multiple depositions and ultimately concluded on June 30.

Read more: https://sports.yahoo.com/nfl-suspends-deshaun-watson-6-games-for-personal-conduct-violations-122422200.html



Thirty women. . .six games. Ladies, the NFL doesn't care about you. Microcosm of the US in general these days.

Don't read the comments unless you want to read things about thugs and "black privilege," whatever the hell that is.
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NFL suspends Deshaun Watson 6 games for personal conduct violations (Original Post) AZLD4Candidate Aug 2022 OP
At least he didn't take a knee. twodogsbarking Aug 2022 #1
Guy clearly has a pathology where he gets off on exposing himself to women Hugh_Lebowski Aug 2022 #2
Long long long time Browns here and I now hope they lose every game. Botany Aug 2022 #3
"nonviolent sexual conduct." - not a rapist speak easy Aug 2022 #6
so it's ok Snoopy 7 Aug 2022 #7
"Not excusing the guy (at all)" speak easy Aug 2022 #20
Sorry he just repeatedly sexually violated over 2 dozen women and being the size of an NFL player... Botany Aug 2022 #9
Did I excuse the guys behavior at all? speak easy Aug 2022 #21
Sorry Botany Aug 2022 #23
I hope to hell Sgent Aug 2022 #32
Stinks jonstl08 Aug 2022 #4
If I understand correctly genxlib Aug 2022 #11
many were expecting a full season suspension so they knew ZonkerHarris Aug 2022 #14
And you know 30 is likely an undercount Novara Aug 2022 #5
It's not the NFL, it's the criminal justice system OnlinePoker Aug 2022 #8
Cleveland has made a huge mistake Mysterian Aug 2022 #10
The nickname moniss Aug 2022 #29
Not black privilege, ATHLETE privilege. Black, white, whatever; they get away with shit. oldsoftie Aug 2022 #12
tom brady catsudon Aug 2022 #31
The NFL requested the entire season. They're likely to appeal. And a FEMALE judge made the decision! oldsoftie Aug 2022 #33
about 1 game for every 4 accusations. ZonkerHarris Aug 2022 #13
6 losses to start the season ought to teach the Browns... maxsolomon Aug 2022 #15
Isn't that just a typical Browns season? jmowreader Aug 2022 #17
Hahahahahahaha! oldsoftie Aug 2022 #34
Maybe the backup QB will be amazing--I've seen it happen--and he'll lose his spot as QB. C Moon Aug 2022 #25
Nope, the Browns are all-in on Watson. maxsolomon Aug 2022 #26
... C Moon Aug 2022 #28
Gets a slap on the wrist for not being able to keep his dick in his pants? LudwigPastorius Aug 2022 #16
If this were true : "Ladies, the NFL doesn't care about you." TeamProg Aug 2022 #18
Judge Sue L. Robinson's ruling based on 'four or five' cases NFL brought to her. TeamProg Aug 2022 #19
Yep. The NFL wanted one year. Dr. Strange Aug 2022 #24
So what you're saying is that the CORPORATION, i.e. the NFL, is Abolishinist Aug 2022 #30
Basically, yes. Dr. Strange Aug 2022 #37
Shit like this is why so many people get fed up with unions. oldsoftie Aug 2022 #35
I think the NFL will let it stand. Baggies Aug 2022 #36
well, if its okay for the former twice impeached ex prezident... IcyPeas Aug 2022 #22
These are the women who have levelled charges against Chump FakeNoose Aug 2022 #38
Meanwhile, the weed suspensions... JCMach1 Aug 2022 #27
 

Hugh_Lebowski

(33,643 posts)
2. Guy clearly has a pathology where he gets off on exposing himself to women
Mon Aug 1, 2022, 09:42 AM
Aug 2022

Once, maybe twice, a guy misreads the situation during a massage, I might argue against a really harsh punishment, but when it's happened THAT many times, apparently?

6 games is totally inadequate.

Boo NFL.

Botany

(70,483 posts)
3. Long long long time Browns here and I now hope they lose every game.
Mon Aug 1, 2022, 09:45 AM
Aug 2022

Not only did they bring in rapist to be the face of the team but their owner is a real shit.
James Haslam ran a multiyear scam to cheat his customers at his gas stations/quickie
marts for which he paid a huge fine and he help to fund the Jan 6th MAGA people too.

speak easy

(9,230 posts)
6. "nonviolent sexual conduct." - not a rapist
Mon Aug 1, 2022, 10:16 AM
Aug 2022
Independent hearing officer Sue L. Robinson's ruling also said Watson's “pattern of behavior was egregious,” but notes that behavior was “nonviolent sexual conduct.”

Not excusing the guy (at all) but the misconduct was not attempted rape.

Snoopy 7

(526 posts)
7. so it's ok
Mon Aug 1, 2022, 10:30 AM
Aug 2022

Would it be ok if he exposed himself to your mom(?) there are people in jail/prison for exposure the only difference is they don't have the money that watson has

Botany

(70,483 posts)
9. Sorry he just repeatedly sexually violated over 2 dozen women and being the size of an NFL player...
Mon Aug 1, 2022, 10:43 AM
Aug 2022

... the threat of physical violence had to have been there. 1/2 a dozen games is nothing and I am sure that the 23
women who got paid off had to sign NDAs. Lots of NFL players have histories of sexual assaults see Brett Rothenberg.

Sgent

(5,857 posts)
32. I hope to hell
Tue Aug 2, 2022, 06:52 AM
Aug 2022

that the NFL appeals the punishment and Goodell sits him out a couple of seasons.

That said, the NFL (for whatever reason) only "pressed charges" on their best four cases. The rest of them don't matter for this purpose so I hope they got a good settlement.

jonstl08

(412 posts)
4. Stinks
Mon Aug 1, 2022, 09:52 AM
Aug 2022

The Browns had to know this was the case why else would they sign him to a $230 million contract if he was going to be suspended for the entire year.

Stinks to high heaven.

genxlib

(5,524 posts)
11. If I understand correctly
Mon Aug 1, 2022, 10:44 AM
Aug 2022

The contract is particularly backloaded where there is relatively limited money for this year and huge sums in future years.

https://www.si.com/nfl/browns/news/deshaun-watson-contract-details

So it was all negotiated that way so that he would not lose a high percentage of the contract even if he lost the entire year.

There is no way of knowing whether the Browns had an inkling of the potential suspension but it doesn't impact their financial investment. They were in for 99%+ of the contract either way.

OnlinePoker

(5,719 posts)
8. It's not the NFL, it's the criminal justice system
Mon Aug 1, 2022, 10:34 AM
Aug 2022

30 women came forward and a grand jury decides there's not enough to lay charges.

oldsoftie

(12,523 posts)
12. Not black privilege, ATHLETE privilege. Black, white, whatever; they get away with shit.
Mon Aug 1, 2022, 11:31 AM
Aug 2022

Everyone HERE would've already been charged
Cleveland deserves to LOSE every game for signing this POS.

Stop exusing bad behavior in exchange for performance.

catsudon

(839 posts)
31. tom brady
Tue Aug 2, 2022, 06:15 AM
Aug 2022

i think he was suspended for 4 games for the air level in a football.

so i believe this is more about nfl does not care about women.

oldsoftie

(12,523 posts)
33. The NFL requested the entire season. They're likely to appeal. And a FEMALE judge made the decision!
Tue Aug 2, 2022, 06:54 AM
Aug 2022

Although he should have been out long ago.

C Moon

(12,212 posts)
25. Maybe the backup QB will be amazing--I've seen it happen--and he'll lose his spot as QB.
Mon Aug 1, 2022, 05:59 PM
Aug 2022

Not wishing for the Browns to win (after reading someone's comments above), but this QB seems like a jackass so it would be nice to see him become 2nd string.

maxsolomon

(33,284 posts)
26. Nope, the Browns are all-in on Watson.
Mon Aug 1, 2022, 06:29 PM
Aug 2022

They paid through the nose. They tossed away Baker Mayfield like stale bread.

Jacoby Brissett will start, they may go 2-4 if they're lucky.

The Browns' first six weeks of the season look like this: at Panthers, vs. Jets, vs. Steelers, at Falcons, vs. Chargers, vs. Patriots.

TeamProg

(6,103 posts)
18. If this were true : "Ladies, the NFL doesn't care about you."
Mon Aug 1, 2022, 12:51 PM
Aug 2022

With some luck, Watson will have to pay out big bucks to these masseueses.

I'm not defending the scumbags within the NFL or any big business. Most players have their own regular massage therapists and/or masseuses, so why would Watson need to go through 30+ of them? yeah I can guess! He's guilty, though no video evidence ever surfaced, to my knowledge.

If this were true, "Ladies, the NFL doesn't care about you." then there would have been no punishment against Watson at all, right? Correct me if I'm wrong. Please be honest here. No punishment is no punishment.

Technically, this all happened outside of NFL business, so why are they obligated to sanction Watson anyway? Only because player conduct is written into their contracts and it hurts the NFL's public image. The NFL may say that they are trying to protect victims of sexual assault but I doubt that is reason # 1.

And it isn't just the NFL or a male / female injustice.

Big BUSINESS doesn't care about any little people.

To be sure, the NFL keeps adding woman referees, trainers, team presidents and owners. Do they care about women or are these examples just qualified sports personnel getting a deserved position?


What I don't get is why aren't GOP women defending ALL other women everywhere?



TeamProg

(6,103 posts)
19. Judge Sue L. Robinson's ruling based on 'four or five' cases NFL brought to her.
Mon Aug 1, 2022, 02:13 PM
Aug 2022

The buzz is that the NFL may find this suspension too light.

The NFL might appeal and ask for more games to be suspended.

Judge Sue L. Robinson's ruling based on 'four or five' cases NFL brought to her


[link:https://www.nfl.com/videos/judy-battista-on-deshaun-watson-case-i-would-be-surprised-if-the-league-does-not|

Dr. Strange

(25,919 posts)
24. Yep. The NFL wanted one year.
Mon Aug 1, 2022, 05:07 PM
Aug 2022

They think the judge went too easy. And the Player's Union wants the NFL to let the punishment stand as is:


Abolishinist

(1,291 posts)
30. So what you're saying is that the CORPORATION, i.e. the NFL, is
Tue Aug 2, 2022, 01:36 AM
Aug 2022

fine with a one-year suspension, while the LABOR UNION, representing the players, is remaining steadfast in their support of the lesser amount of time?

Dr. Strange

(25,919 posts)
37. Basically, yes.
Tue Aug 2, 2022, 02:04 PM
Aug 2022

The case really mucks up our politics, but the corporation in this case is arguably making the better moral case than the union.

oldsoftie

(12,523 posts)
35. Shit like this is why so many people get fed up with unions.
Tue Aug 2, 2022, 06:57 AM
Aug 2022

They defend the indefensible too many times.

Baggies

(503 posts)
36. I think the NFL will let it stand.
Tue Aug 2, 2022, 10:46 AM
Aug 2022

It’s this judges first year, she has the credentials, and it’s a woman judge making a judgment on female victims. If the NFL rejects her ruling, it will have the appearance that she’s not capable of making correct judgements. Not a good look for the league to undercut her. And she was specifically hired to take the pressure off the Commissioner and owners.

IcyPeas

(21,857 posts)
22. well, if its okay for the former twice impeached ex prezident...
Mon Aug 1, 2022, 03:47 PM
Aug 2022

the football player is getting more consequences that tfg has.

FakeNoose

(32,620 posts)
38. These are the women who have levelled charges against Chump
Tue Aug 2, 2022, 03:01 PM
Aug 2022

There are a whole bunch more who took the money and signed an NDA. We'll never know those names.

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