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msongs

(73,754 posts)
Tue Aug 2, 2022, 07:45 PM Aug 2022

Senate passes veterans health bill after Republicans cave to pressure

Source: nbc news

"WASHINGTON — The Senate on Tuesday passed legislation expanding lifesaving health care benefits for Iraq and Afghanistan war veterans exposed to toxic burn pits.

The 86-11 vote came after Republicans agreed to lift their blockade of the popular bill, caving to pressure from more than 60 veterans groups — and comedian Jon Stewart — who had railed against Republicans for days outside the Capitol"

Read more: https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/congress/senate-passes-veterans-health-bill-republicans-cave-pressure-rcna41215

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Senate passes veterans health bill after Republicans cave to pressure (Original Post) msongs Aug 2022 OP
I know that Veterans policy is his passion, but maybe Jon Stewart Funtatlaguy Aug 2022 #1
Agree bluestarone Aug 2022 #3
Just ssw the breakings BumRushDaShow Aug 2022 #2
Who were the 11 asspimples who voted against it?? Ocelot II Aug 2022 #4
That's what I want to know. 2naSalit Aug 2022 #6
these 11 moonshinegnomie Aug 2022 #9
Romney is a surprise. I wonder what his reason was. nt. druidity33 Aug 2022 #12
Agree! What a pack of jackasses Better Days Ahoy Aug 2022 #46
Romney will be 78 by the time his Senate term is up. LudwigPastorius Aug 2022 #47
Veterans, this is the list of Republicans who don't give a damn about you. calimary Aug 2022 #16
rMoney?? Did he give an excuse. . errr, a reason? niyad Aug 2022 #26
Kind of surprised Rebl2 Aug 2022 #33
Those asswipes need to lose votes from veterans and military families IronLionZion Aug 2022 #54
This is the most current I could find TexasBushwhacker Aug 2022 #13
Most of the usual suspects, but Romney? Ocelot II Aug 2022 #14
Romney is bad on economic issues AZProgressive Aug 2022 #18
That's true. He's a plutocrat at heart. And his seat is safe for now and maybe forever. Ocelot II Aug 2022 #21
Romney is vile. sarcasmo Aug 2022 #48
I was surprised at that too TexasBushwhacker Aug 2022 #23
I don't see him running in 2024. herding cats Aug 2022 #49
A lot could depend on this November TexasBushwhacker Aug 2022 #50
This message was self-deleted by its author TexasBushwhacker Aug 2022 #24
Excellent news Docreed2003 Aug 2022 #5
So glad these evil bastards succumbed to the pressure of protests so the vets can get the health iluvtennis Aug 2022 #7
someone needs to put up billboards moonshinegnomie Aug 2022 #28
See, that's the thing.... moose65 Aug 2022 #29
Thank you, Jon Stewart, LetMyPeopleVote Aug 2022 #8
+1000! Rhiannon12866 Aug 2022 #17
Glad the r's did the right thing Marthe48 Aug 2022 #10
And now they'll crow about it 'til the cows come home intrepidity Aug 2022 #11
Yes, unfortunately. ShazzieB Aug 2022 #20
Bless their cold, dead Republican hearts n/t imavoter Aug 2022 #15
What about women's healthcare? ananda Aug 2022 #19
Don't be silly. It isn't as if women are actually PEOPLE. niyad Aug 2022 #27
Such good news PatSeg Aug 2022 #22
Send us to war then not want to be responsible for our care? Victor_c3 Aug 2022 #25
DAMNED straight they do! MyOwnPeace Aug 2022 #35
And thanks to those with conservative values BOSSHOG Aug 2022 #42
Force us to give birth then not help us raise our child? mwb970 Aug 2022 #52
Congress refuses to give the VA healthcare system the money it needs. Dysfunctional Aug 2022 #56
WOMEN need to do a John Stewart on Abortion Rights and Contraception in mass numbers. ProudMNDemocrat Aug 2022 #30
VETERANS, WOMEN, GAYS, SCHOOLKIDS, SENIORS -- EVERYONE! usonian Aug 2022 #31
Thank you, Jon Stewart! Joinfortmill Aug 2022 #32
It's official. Mr.Bill Aug 2022 #34
msongs............ Upthevibe Aug 2022 #36
Hopefully, this is the beginning of turning the power against the GOP idiots. ificandream Aug 2022 #37
Rand Paul was one of the No votes. summer_in_TX Aug 2022 #38
And just like they take credit for the infrastructure money spent in their states dflprincess Aug 2022 #39
You know they will RussBLib Aug 2022 #41
So they were against it before they were for it? Probatim Aug 2022 #40
Did Cruz fist bumped his lousy face? I hope question everything Aug 2022 #43
I hope the DemocratIC Party doesn't wuss out on the messaging BaronChocula Aug 2022 #44
Good Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Aug 2022 #45
here are the latest republican no votes SouthernDem4ever Aug 2022 #51
And of course, Republicans will crow about passing this bill and supporting veterans... Beartracks Aug 2022 #53
Rep Issa voted no! His San Diego district has a high number of veterans and several military bases. Liberty Belle Aug 2022 #55
Oh, Good!!! Thought I saw that but So extra busy past 2 days... electric_blue68 Aug 2022 #57

Funtatlaguy

(11,878 posts)
1. I know that Veterans policy is his passion, but maybe Jon Stewart
Tue Aug 2, 2022, 07:48 PM
Aug 2022

would agree to be the public face and progressive voice on other issues also?
He comes across great on tv and the public likes him.

BumRushDaShow

(169,756 posts)
2. Just ssw the breakings
Tue Aug 2, 2022, 07:49 PM
Aug 2022

I know here in PA Bob Casey was ripping Teabagger Toomey - the organizer of the bill blocking stunt - a new one. That was probably the biggest backfire move from the GOP of the year and let's hope we can capitalize on that.

moonshinegnomie

(4,021 posts)
9. these 11
Tue Aug 2, 2022, 07:56 PM
Aug 2022

Crapo, Lankford, Lee, Lummis, Paul, Risch, Romney, Shelby, Tillis, Toomey, Tuberville

LudwigPastorius

(14,725 posts)
47. Romney will be 78 by the time his Senate term is up.
Tue Aug 2, 2022, 10:43 PM
Aug 2022

Maybe, between that and his vote to impeach Trump, he figures he's done. He can retire, make a few speeches, serve on a few boards, take it easy and rake in the cash in his remaining years.

calimary

(90,021 posts)
16. Veterans, this is the list of Republicans who don't give a damn about you.
Tue Aug 2, 2022, 08:08 PM
Aug 2022

If they did, they would have passed this one awhile ago. They got shamed into it, this time.

AZProgressive

(29,929 posts)
18. Romney is bad on economic issues
Tue Aug 2, 2022, 08:09 PM
Aug 2022

Not surprised to see that he would be against relief for veterans.

Ocelot II

(130,533 posts)
21. That's true. He's a plutocrat at heart. And his seat is safe for now and maybe forever.
Tue Aug 2, 2022, 08:13 PM
Aug 2022

He's not up for re-election until 2024; the Utah Mormons love him and the electorate has a short memory. He probably won't ever have to explain voting against veterans' health.

TexasBushwhacker

(21,204 posts)
23. I was surprised at that too
Tue Aug 2, 2022, 08:17 PM
Aug 2022

Does it mean he won't run in 2024? The other Senator from UT voted nay too.

Of course, instead of risking getting drafted to Vietnam, he went on a 30 month mission to FRANCE!

herding cats

(20,049 posts)
49. I don't see him running in 2024.
Tue Aug 2, 2022, 11:23 PM
Aug 2022

He'll be 77 years old and he's not even close to the current flavor of the GOP. I expect he'll serve out this term as a senator and move on to greener pastures.

TexasBushwhacker

(21,204 posts)
50. A lot could depend on this November
Tue Aug 2, 2022, 11:33 PM
Aug 2022

If the GOP loses big in November, it could mean that support for the RWNJs is waining.

Response to Ocelot II (Reply #14)

iluvtennis

(21,497 posts)
7. So glad these evil bastards succumbed to the pressure of protests so the vets can get the health
Tue Aug 2, 2022, 07:55 PM
Aug 2022

care they need.

moonshinegnomie

(4,021 posts)
28. someone needs to put up billboards
Tue Aug 2, 2022, 08:26 PM
Aug 2022

reminding people that the GOP voted against providing healthcare for injured vets.
ideally saying the voted for tax breaks for the wealthy buy against healthcare for vets.

moose65

(3,454 posts)
29. See, that's the thing....
Tue Aug 2, 2022, 08:39 PM
Aug 2022

They didn’t vote against the bill itself. They voted against ending debate on the bill. That way, they can say that they didn’t vote against the bill itself.

I guess they didn’t have to vote for cloture again, since they “dropped their opposition.” What happens if they do that? They don’t have to vote to end debate? No wonder most people are confused about how Congress operates. 🙄

Marthe48

(23,175 posts)
10. Glad the r's did the right thing
Tue Aug 2, 2022, 07:57 PM
Aug 2022

although true to form, they did the wrong thing first. I hope the veterans' backlash is nothing compared to womens' backlash.

intrepidity

(8,582 posts)
11. And now they'll crow about it 'til the cows come home
Tue Aug 2, 2022, 07:57 PM
Aug 2022

Count on them to spin this as a victory for them, due to them. Just watch.

ShazzieB

(22,590 posts)
20. Yes, unfortunately.
Tue Aug 2, 2022, 08:11 PM
Aug 2022

I'm really glad the bill passed but decidedly not pleased about people like Cruz and his fellow fist bumpers now being able to knock themselves out patting themselves on the back!

I know getting aid to those vets is what matters most, but that still bothers me.

PatSeg

(53,214 posts)
22. Such good news
Tue Aug 2, 2022, 08:17 PM
Aug 2022

That little stunt of the republicans really backfired on them this time. No one was buying what they were selling.

Victor_c3

(3,557 posts)
25. Send us to war then not want to be responsible for our care?
Tue Aug 2, 2022, 08:21 PM
Aug 2022

What sort of “personal responsibility” is that?

“You break it, you buy it”, that’s what my parents taught me when I was a kid. The same is true for our politicians when they send us to fight in a bullshit war - they owe us healthcare and compensation accordingly.

MyOwnPeace

(17,557 posts)
35. DAMNED straight they do!
Tue Aug 2, 2022, 09:05 PM
Aug 2022

It really pizzes me off when I see these ads on TV asking America to donate to this group or that group to 'Support our Patriotic Veterans!'

Those ads SHOULD NOT BE NECESSARY!!!!!!

We, the American Government, should be the ones 'Supporting our Troops!'

THEY fought for us, no matter how absurd the reason for the conflict - the LEAST we can and should do is SUPPORT OUR TROOPS when they come home!!!

And the 'fist-bump' celebration?

FUCK THEM ALL!!!!!!!

BOSSHOG

(44,738 posts)
42. And thanks to those with conservative values
Tue Aug 2, 2022, 09:58 PM
Aug 2022

Poor families have to put jelly jars at gas station check outs and members of their communities have fund raisers and there is always the hope that someone will start a go fund me sight so money can be raised for Good ole Joe, 45 years old, married father of three who has been diagnosed with (fill in the blank.). Can’t have universal health care, because those with conservative values won’t profit from it.

 

Dysfunctional

(452 posts)
56. Congress refuses to give the VA healthcare system the money it needs.
Wed Aug 3, 2022, 04:52 PM
Aug 2022

All my specialists are non-VA.

ProudMNDemocrat

(20,897 posts)
30. WOMEN need to do a John Stewart on Abortion Rights and Contraception in mass numbers.
Tue Aug 2, 2022, 08:40 PM
Aug 2022

Take names and remember who is AGAINST them.

usonian

(25,324 posts)
31. VETERANS, WOMEN, GAYS, SCHOOLKIDS, SENIORS -- EVERYONE!
Tue Aug 2, 2022, 08:41 PM
Aug 2022

Don't let them cover up, deflect or squirm out of their treachery.

REMIND, REMIND, REMIND.

They only behave when horsewhipped. Hmmm

Can we change their default behavior?

Upthevibe

(10,180 posts)
36. msongs............
Tue Aug 2, 2022, 09:13 PM
Aug 2022

Thanks for this post with the news.

And a HUGE thank you to Jon Stewart!!!!!!!!!!

summer_in_TX

(4,168 posts)
38. Rand Paul was one of the No votes.
Tue Aug 2, 2022, 09:28 PM
Aug 2022

THAT'll help him hang onto his seat over Charles Booker.

dflprincess

(29,341 posts)
39. And just like they take credit for the infrastructure money spent in their states
Tue Aug 2, 2022, 09:38 PM
Aug 2022

they will all pat themselves on the back for "taking care of our veterans".

I really can't stand any of them.

BaronChocula

(4,555 posts)
44. I hope the DemocratIC Party doesn't wuss out on the messaging
Tue Aug 2, 2022, 10:22 PM
Aug 2022

I hope they (we) continue to use the initial gopper obstruction to nail their asses. Lesson: Don't let up just because you have them on the run. Destroy them because their goal is to destroy you (us).

SouthernDem4ever

(6,619 posts)
51. here are the latest republican no votes
Tue Aug 2, 2022, 11:47 PM
Aug 2022

Mitt Romney of Utah

Rand Paul of Kentucky

Mike Crapo of Idaho

James Lankford of Oklahoma

Mike Lee of Utah

Cynthia Lummis of Wyoming

James Risch of Idaho

Richard Shelby of Alabama

Pat Toomey of Pennsylvania

Tommy Tuberville of Alabama

Thom Tillis of North Carolina

Apparently, they all voted no the first time too.

Beartracks

(14,591 posts)
53. And of course, Republicans will crow about passing this bill and supporting veterans...
Wed Aug 3, 2022, 01:51 PM
Aug 2022

... because Republicans are all about being two-faced.

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Liberty Belle

(9,707 posts)
55. Rep Issa voted no! His San Diego district has a high number of veterans and several military bases.
Wed Aug 3, 2022, 04:29 PM
Aug 2022

I wonder how all those mostly conservative military vets will vote if they learn their Rep doesn't care if they live or die of diseases caused by their service?

Note the bill covers more than burn pits, it also gives coverage to Vietnam vets exposed to Agent Orange.

This who situation is heartbreaking. I had a friend who got cancer likely related to her military service, the VA first misdiagnosed it and then refused to cover it. She was a single mom. She died on the operating table after a last-ditch effort when she was found to have stage-4 colon cancer, leaving behind a 12-year old son.

Republicans only care about sending military members off to war; most of them don't care what happens when they return.

Note: Issa voted against the bill in the House, the only San Diego repreesntative who didn't support it, though the other four are Dems.

electric_blue68

(26,856 posts)
57. Oh, Good!!! Thought I saw that but So extra busy past 2 days...
Thu Aug 4, 2022, 05:05 AM
Aug 2022

An extra Yay🧡 for John Stewart's high profile continuing efforts!

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