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demmiblue

(39,719 posts)
Thu Aug 4, 2022, 11:19 AM Aug 2022

WNBA star Brittney Griner convicted in Russian court of drug-smuggling with criminal intent

Source: CNN

(CNN)American WNBA star Brittney Griner was convicted in a Russian court Thursday of smuggling drugs with criminal intent, amid concerns she is being used as a political pawn in Russia's war against Ukraine.

Griner could face up to 10 years in jail for the charge, and prosecutors asked for 9.5 years in closing arguments.
Prior to the verdict, Griner apologized to the court and asked for leniency in an emotional speech.

"I never meant to hurt anybody, I never meant to put in jeopardy the Russian population, I never meant to break any laws here," Griner said in the Khimki city courthouse. "I made an honest mistake and I hope that in your ruling that it doesn't end my life here. I know everybody keeps talking about political pawn and politics, but I hope that that is far from this courtroom.

"I want to say again that I had no intent on breaking any Russian laws. I had no intent. I did not conspire or plan to commit this crime," she added.

Read more: https://www.cnn.com/2022/08/04/europe/brittney-griner-trial/index.html

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WNBA star Brittney Griner convicted in Russian court of drug-smuggling with criminal intent (Original Post) demmiblue Aug 2022 OP
Can we trade her for Trump? nycbos Aug 2022 #1
Trump is much more effective to Putin here underpants Aug 2022 #2
I fear if the trade deal doesn't go well she will "accidentally" die by her own hands... nt mitch96 Aug 2022 #6
Exactly. Delphinus Aug 2022 #16
Smuggling? Bullshit charges from fascist dictatorship Russia Mysterian Aug 2022 #3
I am not convinced that there was even anything in that Vape tulipsandroses Aug 2022 #8
Our drug laws are just as insane. Voltaire2 Aug 2022 #24
+1 area51 Aug 2022 #32
She won't serve the full term Baggies Aug 2022 #4
Remember in 1980 when Paul McCartney got arrested in Japan? FakeNoose Aug 2022 #5
So she needs a nanny, huh? padah513 Aug 2022 #11
it's possible to have empathy for her maxsolomon Aug 2022 #19
Adds pressure EndlessWire Aug 2022 #7
sentenced to 9 years (update at OP source) muriel_volestrangler Aug 2022 #9
Now the swap can commence. maxsolomon Aug 2022 #15
You do realize TxGuitar Aug 2022 #25
that's the narrative. maxsolomon Aug 2022 #27
They left Whelan behind before ripcord Aug 2022 #26
Whelan is kind of shady, but I think they'd let Griner sit for a bit maxsolomon Aug 2022 #28
It doesn't matter what you think of Whelan ripcord Aug 2022 #30
i didn't say my opinion mattered. maxsolomon Aug 2022 #31
Not a fair cop Marthe48 Aug 2022 #10
All over fucking weed, whether McCartney or Griner. Reefer Madness insanity Evolve Dammit Aug 2022 #12
I am shocked, I tell you. Shocked. frogmarch Aug 2022 #13
A minor crime can become major when it becomes part of a political pissing contest. keithbvadu2 Aug 2022 #14
Criminal intent is BS. it was for personal use IronLionZion Aug 2022 #17
I severely doubt she'll serve more than a year, much less nine. DinahMoeHum Aug 2022 #18
Biden: Griner's nine-year sentence 'unacceptable' Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Aug 2022 #20
She's served 5 months so that portion served LittleGirl Aug 2022 #21
Wow. So shocking! Oneironaut Aug 2022 #22
The US has it's own house to clean up. walkingman Aug 2022 #23
Because the political consequences of changing its scheduling maxsolomon Aug 2022 #29
Yep, forgot human live are expendable. Wonder just who it would offend? walkingman Aug 2022 #33
Her first mistake Zeitghost Aug 2022 #34
Let's get the swap deal done. Signed, sealed, delivered! CTyankee Aug 2022 #35

underpants

(196,493 posts)
2. Trump is much more effective to Putin here
Thu Aug 4, 2022, 11:21 AM
Aug 2022

9 1/2 years for a weed vape? She is just being used as a pawn.

mitch96

(15,802 posts)
6. I fear if the trade deal doesn't go well she will "accidentally" die by her own hands... nt
Thu Aug 4, 2022, 11:41 AM
Aug 2022

Delphinus

(12,522 posts)
16. Exactly.
Thu Aug 4, 2022, 12:28 PM
Aug 2022

I don't know what this means for Whelan either - I hope the diplomats are working on it.

Mysterian

(6,482 posts)
3. Smuggling? Bullshit charges from fascist dictatorship Russia
Thu Aug 4, 2022, 11:26 AM
Aug 2022

She possessed some vape concentrate. STUPID STUPID STUPID There are places in the USA (South Dakota, for example) where possession of any amount of cannabis concentrate, like in a vape cartridge, is a FELONY. Having this stuff on you when you enter a foreign nation is STUPID. But I feel certain Griner was not fucking smuggling with intent. Russia can go fuck themselves.

tulipsandroses

(8,251 posts)
8. I am not convinced that there was even anything in that Vape
Thu Aug 4, 2022, 11:47 AM
Aug 2022

Last edited Thu Aug 4, 2022, 02:55 PM - Edit history (1)

I will wait for BG to tell her own story when she is no longer under duress. I am not convinced that it was missed at an American airport, and then found at a Russian airport. Possible. But I will wait to hear from BG herself. At this point, I don’t know if she is saying what needs to be said to move the case along to get to the next step for a prisoner swap. One thing that is hardly reported is that her drug screen was negative. She does not deny using, but a negative drug test would mean she hadn’t used in at least a month. I get that she is not charged with using. Russia just does not get the benefit of doubt in my book.
Hopefully BG will be home soon to tell her own story as well as all the other American hostages.

Voltaire2

(15,377 posts)
24. Our drug laws are just as insane.
Thu Aug 4, 2022, 06:42 PM
Aug 2022

Of course this is a political persecution, but our federal, and many states laws over possession of pot are draconian and can escalate simple possession to trafficking charges based on many factors besides ‘an intent’ to distribute.

area51

(12,691 posts)
32. +1
Fri Aug 5, 2022, 12:17 PM
Aug 2022

I don't know how the US govt can say with a straight face that Griner's sentence is outrageous, when they do the same thing here and MJ remains schedule 1.

Baggies

(666 posts)
4. She won't serve the full term
Thu Aug 4, 2022, 11:36 AM
Aug 2022

We’ll trade her for a currently held Russian spy and a player to be named later.

FakeNoose

(41,631 posts)
5. Remember in 1980 when Paul McCartney got arrested in Japan?
Thu Aug 4, 2022, 11:39 AM
Aug 2022

He was carrying about 1/2 pound of marijuana in his luggage, and got caught almost immediately. The Japanese authorities weren't very happy about it either.

Brittney Griner needs a nanny or something, because she has made some rather poor choices. However I do believe that she will be gotten out of Russia in a prisoner swap. In fact that was probably the reason Griner was arrested in the first place. The Russians needed an American prisoner to trade for somebody they want to get back. How nice that Griner "volunteered" to help them out.

My point is that Paul McCartney was a way bigger celebrity than Brittney Griner, but he still got caught. He paid a very large fine and left Japan on the first flight out.

padah513

(2,710 posts)
11. So she needs a nanny, huh?
Thu Aug 4, 2022, 12:16 PM
Aug 2022

Everybody makes mistakes dude. I'd even venture that you've made a couple yourself. I know I have. Never had anyone tell me I needed a nanny, though. A little empathy can go a long way. Or have we all been so indoctrinated by Trump and his Maga stoolies that showing a little compassion for others is no longer the way we do things anymore? Just saying.

maxsolomon

(38,715 posts)
19. it's possible to have empathy for her
Thu Aug 4, 2022, 12:57 PM
Aug 2022

and still think transporting illicit substances into an paranoid, war-mongering authoritarian state is a more than an "everybody makes mistakes" mistake. it's a fuck-up, and Griner knows it.

she doesn't need a nanny; she needs to "handle her business", as the sports cliché goes. i'm confident she will after this ordeal is over.

she'll never go back to Russia; i doubt any WNBA players will.

EndlessWire

(8,103 posts)
7. Adds pressure
Thu Aug 4, 2022, 11:46 AM
Aug 2022

to making a deal for her. If we agreed to release an arms dealer, and Germany agreed to give up their murderer, would she get free, or would they just add on another demand?

And, what of those hundreds of Ukrainian citizens abducted by Russia from their fake, lowdown war? Russia is despicable, and we will not forget, ever.

From someone who once loved Russia, eff them and the horse they rode in on.

Hang tough, BG.

muriel_volestrangler

(106,207 posts)
9. sentenced to 9 years (update at OP source)
Thu Aug 4, 2022, 11:48 AM
Aug 2022
(CNN)[Breaking news update, 11:30 a.m. ET]

American WNBA star Brittney Griner has been sentenced by a Russian court to 9 years of jail time, Judge Anna Sotnikova of the Khimki city court said Thursday.

maxsolomon

(38,715 posts)
15. Now the swap can commence.
Thu Aug 4, 2022, 12:27 PM
Aug 2022

Stoner basketball player for Viktor Bout will be the basic outline of the deal. Hopefully they get Paul Whelan out - it would be pretty fucked up if the US could only get one or the other.

maxsolomon

(38,715 posts)
27. that's the narrative.
Fri Aug 5, 2022, 10:37 AM
Aug 2022

it's not the amount of cannabis you possess that makes you a stoner.


 

ripcord

(5,553 posts)
26. They left Whelan behind before
Thu Aug 4, 2022, 09:30 PM
Aug 2022

If they have to choose between the two they will choose Griner just because of the publicity and optics.

maxsolomon

(38,715 posts)
28. Whelan is kind of shady, but I think they'd let Griner sit for a bit
Fri Aug 5, 2022, 10:39 AM
Aug 2022

to get them both out.

They're both pawns.

 

ripcord

(5,553 posts)
30. It doesn't matter what you think of Whelan
Fri Aug 5, 2022, 10:46 AM
Aug 2022

The State Department has declared him wrongfully detained so they have the same obligations to Whelan as they do Griner.

keithbvadu2

(40,915 posts)
14. A minor crime can become major when it becomes part of a political pissing contest.
Thu Aug 4, 2022, 12:27 PM
Aug 2022

A minor crime can become major when it becomes part of a political pissing contest.

DinahMoeHum

(23,604 posts)
18. I severely doubt she'll serve more than a year, much less nine.
Thu Aug 4, 2022, 12:43 PM
Aug 2022

A perspective from sportswriter Dave Zirin of The Nation magazine. . .



An absolute f****** outrage. One light of hope is that the sentencing was always going to happen before any kind of hostage swap with the United States. This could have dragged on until December in court. Hopefully the sentencing means a swap is imminent.


(boldface emphasis mine)

Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin

(135,697 posts)
20. Biden: Griner's nine-year sentence 'unacceptable'
Thu Aug 4, 2022, 01:15 PM
Aug 2022

President Joe Biden said Thursday that the guilty verdict and nine-year sentence handed by a Russian court to American basketball star Brittney Griner is "unacceptable," calling for her immediate release.

"My administration will continue to work tirelessly and pursue every possible avenue to bring Brittney and Paul Whelan home safely," Biden said.

Secretary of State Antony Blinken, who discussed a proposal to bring the American detainees home with his Russian counterpart last week, said Griner's sentencing "further compounds the injustice of her wrongful detention."

"This step puts a spotlight on our significant concerns with Russia’s legal system and the Russian government’s use of wrongful detentions to advance its own agenda, using individuals as political pawns," Blinken said.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/biden-griner-s-nine-year-sentence-unacceptable/ar-AA10iZ8X

LittleGirl

(8,999 posts)
21. She's served 5 months so that portion served
Thu Aug 4, 2022, 01:20 PM
Aug 2022

The 9 years and fine is b.s. dictated by Putin. Who else?
She had less than a gram supposedly. We’ll never know for sure.
How do you intentionally use less than a gram to distribute as narcotics?
Come on!
She’s a political pawn being used by Putin. One week before he invaded Ukraine.

She has served 5 months, let her go!
I’m so mad at Putin! This is his doing!

walkingman

(10,862 posts)
23. The US has it's own house to clean up.
Thu Aug 4, 2022, 01:44 PM
Aug 2022

A first-offense marijuana possession carried a minimum sentence of 2-10 years with a fine of up to $20,000 in the 50's and even into the 60's.

Here are some contemporary examples of Weed ignorance in the US.

Why cannabis still considered a "Schedule 1" drug?

walkingman

(10,862 posts)
33. Yep, forgot human live are expendable. Wonder just who it would offend?
Fri Aug 5, 2022, 02:54 PM
Aug 2022

Maybe old people who are convinced that it is worse that alcohol? Or maybe just the self-righteous?

 

Zeitghost

(4,557 posts)
34. Her first mistake
Sat Aug 6, 2022, 11:57 AM
Aug 2022

Was working for war mongering Russian Oligarchs. WNBA players (and other athletes) don't make significantly more money in Russia because women's basketball is so much more popular there. They are willing and active participants in a criminal network of money laundering and other crimes. She decided to look the other way to enrich herself with blood money and it backfired.

CTyankee

(68,200 posts)
35. Let's get the swap deal done. Signed, sealed, delivered!
Sat Aug 6, 2022, 12:24 PM
Aug 2022

ANOTHER triumph for Biden, heading into the off-year election season! If done right, I predict a great off year election for Dems!

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