Fourth Muslim man murdered in New Mexico in 'targeted killings'

[Judi Lynn]

Source: Reuters

August 6, 2022
8:51 PM CDT
Last Updated 15 min ago

By Kanishka Singh

2 minute read

Aug 6 (Reuters) - Police in New Mexico and federal agencies were probing the murders of four Muslim men to determine if the killings, the latest of which happened on Friday evening, were linked while the state's governor described them as "targeted killings."

Albuquerque Police Chief Harold Medina told reporters on Saturday that a "young man who is part of the Muslim community was murdered."

The victim's name and the circumstances of the murder were not disclosed. In the previous three cases, the victims were ambushed and shot without warning, police said.

. . .

Police in New Mexico had said earlier that the other three Muslim men murdered in the state's largest city in the past nine months appeared to have been targeted for their religion and race.

Read more: https://www.reuters.com/world/us/fourth-muslim-man-murdered-new-mexico-targeted-killings-2022-08-07/?rpc=401&

[YoshidaYui]

1. what the flying fuck

is going on in New Mexico? yikes

[keopeli]

4. Please don't blame "New Mexico" or "Albuquerque". We are kind, friendly, and charitable people.

Like every other place in the world, we have crazies. Sometimes, it is some cops. Sometimes it is psychologically disturbed residents. Sometimes it is a religious leader. Sometimes it's an underprivileged person who has lost hope or has been led astray. Sometimes it's drug addiction. Sometimes, it's racist, trumper, megalomaniac types.

But Burquenos are largely really good people. It's not accurate to lump us all into a stereotype because of the actions of an individual. I know you meant no offense, but I feel obliged to defend my neighbors and friends.

Blessings to you!

[McKim]

10. Albuquerque !

In Albuquerque you can feel the friendly vibe and the lovely manners…….some really mentally ill person is doing this! Love your town!

[magicarpet]

2. White Nationalism speaks loud and clear....

.... thank you to the Orange Fuhrer

[Evolve Dammit]

13. that's my suspicion. Let's hope they can apprehend the killer quickly.

[onenote]

21. Bad assumption on your part.

https://apnews.com/article/afghanistan-religion-pakistan-new-mexico-albuquerque-86dc44b0546834282ac9b171b37b32f7

[Mosby]

30. Ashura started on Sunday.

That's the Shia observance of the death of Husayn ibn Ali in Karbala, Iraq. Mosque attendence has probably been high leading up to it.

[Solly Mack]

3. K&R

[Warpy]

5. All it takes is one Christofascist dickhead

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and I sincerely hope one is all there is.

Targeted for their religion, you bet. For their race, not so much. Trust me, unless they're veiled women, brown Muslims in this town blend unless someone sees them coming out of the Islamic Center or looks them up in the phone book.

I hope they catch the goon(s) fast. Bigots are scary. With guns and imagined grudges, they're scarier.

Well, SHAME ON ME. He's an Islamist dickhead from Afghanistan who liked to beat his wife and son. No motive yet, but he likely knew all of these men.

[BlackSkimmer]

17. Oops.

[onenote]

22. Another bad assumption.

https://apnews.com/article/afghanistan-religion-pakistan-new-mexico-albuquerque-86dc44b0546834282ac9b171b37b32f7

[Violet_Crumble]

39. Why is it a bad assumption to make in the current climate in the US?

After all, the Muslim community and just about everyone else with any common sense made the same assumption. Please explain why you think it was a bad assumption to make. Am I mistaken? Are minorities in the US not facing danger from right-wing religious nationalists?

[onenote]

41. Because it was wrong.

And it should serve as a reminder that one doesn't have to jump to conclusions -- one can wait for facts and then react.

[Violet_Crumble]

46. That would make it a wrong assumption, not a bad one...

I have a question for you. Do you refuse to jump to conclusions on everything? Right now are you saying to fellow Democrats: 'No! Wait! Don't jump to conclusions about what was being searched for at Trump's ugly home! We must wait until we have absolute and total incontrovertible proof of what happened. That also goes for every possible hate crime that's ever happened, including anti-Semitic ones and ones against LGBTQI and women!'?

[Zeitghost]

45. Maybe not mistaken

But you're focusing on a ver small percentage of violent acts. Hate crimes where victims are targeted based on their race/ethnicity/religion are not common relative to other motivations. Most victims are harmed by people from their own community and mostly by people they know and interact with.

[burrowowl]

6. May the killer be caught soon!

[SunSeeker]

7. Sounds like we have an Islamophobic serial killer out there in NM.

Hope they get him soon.

[LudwigPastorius]

16. Does anyone know where Lauren Boebert has been lately?

I'm just sayin'...

[onenote]

23. Apparently the "Islamophobic serial killer" was an Afghan Muslim.

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Appears to be a Sunni v. Shiite thing.

[SunSeeker]

26. No, police now think it was an "interpersonal conflict." The killer knew the men.

"Detectives discovered evidence that shows the offender knew the victims to some extent and an interpersonal conflict may have led to the shootings," Albuquerque police said in a release. https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2022/08/09/albuquerque-new-mexico-police-suspect-muslim/10274927002/

And resolving conflicts with guns is so American, no?

[JI7]

32. The "interpersonal conflict" is about Sunni v Shiite . He is a SUnni that didn't like his daughter

marrying Shia.

[SunSeeker]

33. If that is the case, then it was bigotry after all.

[SunSeeker]

28. BTW, was your use of "Moslem," instead of Muslim, intentional?

“Muslim” means Muslim. But “Moslem” means something entirely different, at least in Arabic.

[onenote]

29. No. Just not thinking.

[electric_blue68]

8. Yikes! Get this murderous bigot!

[Roy Rolling]

9. The Formula

Twisted Ideology + Paid Hatecasting Network + Nutjob + Gun = Instant Fame

People who want to be “stars” in movies or on TV settle for self-broadcasting on social media or news stories of another mass murder.

Cheap videos where they are the “star” and finally have the fame and admiration they’ve been denied all their lives by what they label a “cruel” public.

Or professional stories of his infamy broadcast on the largest news networks in history.

Either is okay in a twisted mind, as long as the shooter is the star and the victims deserve it. He is finally getting even.

Victimhood.

[Lonestarblue]

11. The notion being spread by white evangelicals that the US is a Christian nation is pernicious.

Hate radio is full of evangelical preachers who make ridiculous claims about minorities, women, LGBTQ, and especially Muslims while supposedly preaching the gospel according to Jesus Christ. Yep, that’s the gospel that welcomes the stranger and cares for the poor. Oops, wrong gospel. The new version hates the stranger, wants to turn the US into Afghanistan, and foments rage against all the people who know their version of religion is nothing more than white supremacy.

Christian Nationalism is a movement that needs to be stopped now before we end up with a truly dystopian nation. The media covers it occasionally, but I’m sure Fox, hate radio, and the wacko parts of the Internet are full of ideas for turning white evangelicals into the Taliban.

[JohnSJ]

12. Not good, and there is no question that this is a direct result of the racism and bigotry that

has been legitimized by far too many in this country.

[Evolve Dammit]

14. Yes, the spigot has been opened. Started in earnest about the time of Charlottesville.

[BlackSkimmer]

18. No question, eh?

You know what they say about assumptions...

[chuluma]

25. The suspect is a Muslim

[Initech]

15. The hate in this country is out of control.

[chuluma]

19. seems like a targeted hate crime

The culprits must pay.

[Jose Garcia]

20. They have arrested a suspect

[onenote]

24. It appears that a large number of the posters here were wrong

https://apnews.com/article/afghanistan-religion-pakistan-new-mexico-albuquerque-86dc44b0546834282ac9b171b37b32f7

[alphafemale]

27. Very much so.

[JI7]

31. Happens all the time . People should learn about other countries and the conflicts that take place

there .

[SunSeeker]

34. The Muslim community in Albuquerque itself thought it was a hate crime, until they got the guy.

Emshadi said the killings made him and fellow Muslims nervous to practice their Islamic rituals at mosques. “We think something bad is going to happen if we just start praying, (like) a crazy person comes inside and shoots us,” he said.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2022/08/09/albuquerque-new-mexico-police-suspect-muslim/10274927002/

Do you think Albuquerque Muslims need to "learn more about other countries"?

I think most people on this thread are aware of the Sunni v. Shiite hatred, but there was just no inkling that would be the case, until they found the guy. Until more became known about the killer, it had the appearance of, and it was reasonable to suspect it was, an anti-Muslim serial killer on the rampage, akin to the New Zealand Mosque shootings.

No need to insult people here.

[JI7]

35. Yes they do , for example there have been many attacks on Shia in Pakistan and AFghanistan

including very recently .

[SunSeeker]

36. And yet the Albuquerque Muslim community still thought it was anti-Muslim hate, until he was caught.

Yes, there are a lot in inter-sectarian killings in Pakistan and Afghanistan. And of course Fox News has really given a lot of attention to this story (AFTER the guy was caught) since it plays into their "we never hurt Muslims, they hurt themselves and us" narrative. That, of course, is unfair. The vast majority of American Shia and Sunni live in harmony and support one another to deal with the discrimination faced by both sects as religious and racial minorities.

But just like Europeans who brought their prejudices to the New World, so too did other immigrants. In California's tech centers, which employ a lot of immigrants from India, there is discrimination by higher caste Indians against lower caste Indians at the work site, like in India. https://slate.com/technology/2022/07/caste-silicon-valley-thenmozhi-soundararajan.html

We must be ever vigilant to enforce our civil rights laws, no matter who is the victim, nor who is the perpetrator.

[JI7]

37. Yes. this is why it's important to understand issues in other countries

[SunSeeker]

38. The Muslims in Albuquerque "understood issues in other countries."

As do most people in this thread.

[Violet_Crumble]

40. I don't know what the Muslim equivalent for mansplaining is...

...but after reading the posts yr replying to, there really needs to be an equivalent term

[SunSeeker]

42. LOL. Yup. nt

[Raine]

43. Exactly and a good reason it's best not to always jump to a conclusion

that is the worst case scenario.

[Dr. Strange]

47. Yes, I also made bad assumptions about this case.

I thought for sure Jussie Smollett was the killer.

[XanaDUer2]

44. Kick nt