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BumRushDaShow

(169,384 posts)
Sun Aug 7, 2022, 11:15 AM Aug 2022

Republicans block cap on insulin costs for millions of patients

Last edited Sun Aug 7, 2022, 12:26 PM - Edit history (1)

Source: Washington Post

Republican lawmakers on Sunday successfully stripped a $35 price cap on the cost of insulin for many patients from the ambitious legislative package Democrats are moving through Congress this weekend, invoking arcane Senate rules to jettison the measure. The insulin cap is a long-running ambition of Democrats, who want it to apply to patients on Medicare and private insurance. Republicans left the portion that applies to Medicare patients untouched but stripped the insulin cap for other patients. Bipartisan talks on a broader insulin pricing bill faltered earlier this year.

The Senate parliamentarian earlier in the weekend ruled that part of the Democrats’ cap, included in the Inflation Reduction Act, did not comply with the rules that allow them to advance a bill under the process known as reconciliation — a tactic that helps them avert a GOP filibuster. That gave the Republicans an opening to jettison it. “Republicans have just gone on the record in favor of expensive insulin,” said Sen. Ron Wyden (D-Ore.).

“After years of tough talk about taking on insulin makers, Republicans have once against wilted in the face of heat from Big Pharma." Some Republicans did support the price cap in the 57-43 vote for the measure, but not enough joined Democrats in support of it to meet the threshold for passage. More than 1 in 5 insulin users on private medical insurance pay more than $35 per month for the medicine, according to a recent analysis from the Kaiser Family Foundation.

Some 7 million Americans require insulin daily. A Yale University study found that 14 percent of those insulin users are spending more than 40 percent of their income after food and housing costs on the medicine. Despite an adverse ruling from the chamber’s parliamentarian, Democrats opted to keep the full price cap provision in the bill anyway. That gave Republicans, led in debate by Sen. Lindsey O. Graham (R-S.C.), an opening for a challenge on the Senate floor. Democrats would have needed 60 votes — their entire caucus plus the support of 10 GOP members — to beat back that challenge. They came up short.

Read more: https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2022/08/07/insulin-cap-budget-congress/?utm_campaign=wp_main&utm_medium=social&utm_source=twitter



No paywall link

Short article.

The REAL headline should be - "The Parliamentarian stripped..." although i suppose it might help to blame the GOP for stopping the Democrats' efforts and some kind of price control.

The cap remains (so far) for Medicare recipients.

Article now updated. Original article and headline -

Republicans block cap on millions of patients' insulin costs

Republican lawmakers on Sunday successfully stripped a $35 price cap on the cost of insulin for many patients from the ambitious legislative package Democrats are moving through Congress this weekend, invoking arcane Senate rules to jettison the measure.

The insulin cap is a long-running ambition of Democrats, who want it to apply to patients on Medicare and private insurance. Republicans left untouched the portion that applies to Medicare patients but stripped the insulin cap for other patients. Bipartisan talks on a broader insulin pricing bill faltered earlier this year.

The Senate parliamentarian ruled that the Democrats’ cap, included in the Inflation Reduction Act, did not comply with the rules that allow them to advance a bill under the process known as reconciliation — a tactic that helps them avert a GOP filibuster. That gave the Republicans an opening to jettison it.
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Republicans block cap on insulin costs for millions of patients (Original Post) BumRushDaShow Aug 2022 OP
introduce a $35 cap on insulin prices as a seperate bill. moonshinegnomie Aug 2022 #1
+1 TeamProg Aug 2022 #5
You're playing with the filibuster now EmmaLee E Aug 2022 #7
They already did and BumRushDaShow Aug 2022 #15
schmer needs to bring it up for a vote in the senate moonshinegnomie Aug 2022 #26
Warnock attempted to bring up his version (pretty much identical to the House one) BumRushDaShow Aug 2022 #34
Paywall Bayard Aug 2022 #2
There are rules to what is allowed in a reconciliation bill edhopper Aug 2022 #3
Some Republicans did agree to it AZSkiffyGeek Aug 2022 #6
Thanks edhopper Aug 2022 #9
That's alll there was at the original post time but here is a no paywall link (will add to OP) BumRushDaShow Aug 2022 #18
Wow, just doesn't make sense @Parliamentarian iluvtennis Aug 2022 #4
It makes perfect sense. Igel Aug 2022 #35
Thanks for clarifying- what's in/ out for reconciliation needs changing. iluvtennis Aug 2022 #50
They seem to be committing political suicide, this election. Good for them! Frustratedlady Aug 2022 #8
Bingo. Put it on the ballot in Roevember. n/t Justice matters. Aug 2022 #10
Someone asked about allowing meds to be imported. Why? see below. usonian Aug 2022 #11
I've ordered prescription drugs PatSeg Aug 2022 #19
I take insulin Desert_Leslie Aug 2022 #12
No, the REAL headline is correct. If the R's hadn't blocked it, it wouldn't have had pnwmom Aug 2022 #13
The parliamentarian cn be overruled with 60 votes. Scruffy1 Aug 2022 #16
I'm Confused 3825-87867 Aug 2022 #22
It can be done but both sides avoid doing it except in rare cases grantcart Aug 2022 #33
That requires R votes. The D's were onboard. nt pnwmom Aug 2022 #23
True and that goes back even before this effort with this that languishes in the Senate BumRushDaShow Aug 2022 #25
This needs to go in every single ad run against the GQP forever and ever and ever. Vinca Aug 2022 #14
The pharma portion of the bill has been diluted to the point of meaninglessness Fiendish Thingy Aug 2022 #17
We need to fight like hell to win full control of the legislature. ColinC Aug 2022 #21
Even the Dems should be ashamed... kirby Aug 2022 #29
Its amazing how often these things don't go into effect until someone ELSE is in office. oldsoftie Aug 2022 #32
I wonder why they delayed it until 2026? moose65 Aug 2022 #57
Because it has always been thus; or they do run future projections Hestia Aug 2022 #58
How many of the assholes who made this happen are running this year? ColinC Aug 2022 #20
I guess Republicans figure this won't lose them any more votes in November bucolic_frolic Aug 2022 #24
The mid-term campaign ads write themselves Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Aug 2022 #27
Barbarians. I hope we exploit this for votes. Martin68 Aug 2022 #28
Every Dem ad should contain this headline louis-t Aug 2022 #30
They, repugs, are so damned arrogant that they believe this shit doesn't resonate with voters. Ferrets are Cool Aug 2022 #31
Okay, which Republicans voted to block this? mwooldri Aug 2022 #36
Had to dig but here is roll call for that amendment BumRushDaShow Aug 2022 #38
Thank you! Seems like I got some writing to do. NT mwooldri Aug 2022 #53
Which 7 rethugs did the right thing? JT45242 Aug 2022 #37
Just posted above BumRushDaShow Aug 2022 #40
This message was self-deleted by its author mpcamb Aug 2022 #54
New, caring version of Hawley... caused by his recent publicity. mpcamb Aug 2022 #55
When they do things like this we need to respond with ads on TV and the Internet immediately ZonkerHarris Aug 2022 #39
Mandela Barnes, Lt. Gov of Wisconsin running against Ron Johnson, who gets barely noticed on DU BumRushDaShow Aug 2022 #42
This close to midterms...HELL YES KS Toronado Aug 2022 #44
With gerrymandering and voter suppression this won't hurt them. Novara Aug 2022 #41
It'll hurt 'em in the Senate BumRushDaShow Aug 2022 #45
Plenty of GOP voters need insulin IronLionZion Aug 2022 #43
Democrats..."For the People," hammer them with this.... bahboo Aug 2022 #46
The Canny Kenyan strikes again! LudwigPastorius Aug 2022 #47
MEAN! jerseyjim Aug 2022 #48
Again, this person is not elected. Snackshack Aug 2022 #49
Kick dalton99a Aug 2022 #51
Republicans are sick MOFOs. sakabatou Aug 2022 #52
It's sad that this is how Republicans define "success." Beartracks Aug 2022 #56

moonshinegnomie

(4,011 posts)
1. introduce a $35 cap on insulin prices as a seperate bill.
Sun Aug 7, 2022, 11:21 AM
Aug 2022

force teh GOP to vote up or down on it
or else have harris just overrule the parliamentarian

EmmaLee E

(274 posts)
7. You're playing with the filibuster now
Sun Aug 7, 2022, 11:35 AM
Aug 2022

A separate bill won't be allowed in reconciliation.
The GOP would filibuster a separate bill.

Ergo, no go

BumRushDaShow

(169,384 posts)
15. They already did and
Sun Aug 7, 2022, 12:14 PM
Aug 2022



H.R.6833 - Affordable Insulin Now Act



House passes bill to cap insulin prices


March 31, 20225:57 PM ET


Barbara Sprunt

Rep. Lucy McBath, D-Ga., flanked by Rep. Dan Kildee, D-Mich., and House Majority Whip James Clyburn, D-S.C., speaks to reporters about a bill to cap the price of insulin at the Capitol on Thursday.
J. Scott Applewhite/AP

The House of Representatives voted Thursday to approve legislation that would limit cost-sharing for insulin under private health insurance and Medicare. The vote was 232-193, with 12 Republican members joining their Democratic colleagues to pass the measure.

The Affordable Insulin Now Act would cap insulin prices at either $35 a month or 25% of an insurance plan's negotiated price — whichever is lower. The legislation would take effect in 2023 but its fate in the Senate remains unclear. "This is a kitchen-table issue," House Speaker Nancy Pelosi, D-Calif., said to reporters ahead of the bill's passage on Thursday.

(snip)

House Democrats passed legislation in November as part of a broader spending package that would have enabled Medicare to negotiate lower prices for various prescription drugs. Because that package remains stalled in the Senate, Democrats are working to more narrowly tackle making common drugs like insulin more affordable.

(snip)

https://www.npr.org/2022/03/31/1090085513/house-passes-bill-to-cap-insulin-prices

moonshinegnomie

(4,011 posts)
26. schmer needs to bring it up for a vote in the senate
Sun Aug 7, 2022, 12:39 PM
Aug 2022

they the gop go on record opposing it. have the bill strictly address insulin. no extras.
and then let teh GOP explain to their sheeple that they blocked it

BumRushDaShow

(169,384 posts)
34. Warnock attempted to bring up his version (pretty much identical to the House one)
Sun Aug 7, 2022, 01:01 PM
Aug 2022

and was running into the same damn 60-vote thing. From the OP article link -

"The only way it doesn’t pass is if folks on the other side of the aisle decide to block it,” said Sen. Raphael G. Warnock (D-Ga.), who had previously put forward legislation calling for a price cap.

GOP lawmakers had earlier tried to offer their own, more scaled-back version of an insulin price limit, but Democrats rejected it as too narrow.


The thing is, although I agree that we should put them on record, whenever we have, people promptly "forget" that we did, where dozens of bills have passed the House and were blocked by the Senate, and then they still blame Democrats for it.

edhopper

(37,340 posts)
3. There are rules to what is allowed in a reconciliation bill
Sun Aug 7, 2022, 11:30 AM
Aug 2022

And the Parliamentarian ruled legislation that affects private insurers doesn't fit. An amendment, approved by 60+ votes would have been allowed, but not enough Repugs would agree to it.

They can bring up a separate, non-reconciliation bill the Repukes can stop.

BumRushDaShow

(169,384 posts)
18. That's alll there was at the original post time but here is a no paywall link (will add to OP)
Sun Aug 7, 2022, 12:22 PM
Aug 2022
https://archive.ph/kNQFM

Am also updating the OP with more info that has now been added.

Igel

(37,516 posts)
35. It makes perfect sense.
Sun Aug 7, 2022, 01:33 PM
Aug 2022
https://budget.house.gov/publications/fact-sheet/budget-reconciliation-basics

Reconciliation bills involve spending or revenues. Capping private expenses for citizens isn't federal revenue or spending.

Because reconciliation bills are considered using expedited procedures in the Senate, the Byrd rule is aimed at preventing the use of reconciliation to move a legislative agenda unrelated to spending or taxes, and to some extent it limits Congress’ ability to use reconciliation to increase deficits – at least over the long-term. The Byrd rule prohibits the inclusion of “extraneous” measures in reconciliation, defining “extraneous” as follows:

measures with no budgetary effect (i.e., no change in outlays or revenues);
measures that worsen the deficit when a committee has not achieved its reconciliation target;
measures outside the jurisdiction of the committee that submitted the title or provision;
measures that produce a budgetary effect that is merely incidental to the non-budgetary policy change;

Frustratedlady

(16,254 posts)
8. They seem to be committing political suicide, this election. Good for them!
Sun Aug 7, 2022, 11:36 AM
Aug 2022

The group of diabetics is nothing to mess with and the proof that the prices are out of sight, compared to a few years ago, had a lot of diabetics excited relief was on the way.

Abortion, book banning, contraception, prison for miscarriages, same sex marriage, etc. was enough to knock the Repukes down in Nov., but they keep performing like the idiots they are.

I'm terrified of the upcoming election/post-election, but am enjoying the self-demolition of the party, for now.

usonian

(25,120 posts)
11. Someone asked about allowing meds to be imported. Why? see below.
Sun Aug 7, 2022, 11:54 AM
Aug 2022
https://worldpopulationreview.com/country-rankings/cost-of-insulin-by-country
Cost of Insulin by Country 2022

Very short: (emphasis mine)

The price of insulin in the United States compared to other countries

A landmark study published by the RAND Corporation in 2020 analyzed the average price of several different forms of insulin (human, analog, rapid, rapid-intermediate, short, short-intermediate, intermediate, and long-acting) in 33 countries of the Organization for Economic Cooperation and Development (OECD), which includes most of the world's developed countries and high-income countries. The study revealed that the manufacturer price for any given type of insulin averaged five to ten times higher in the U.S. ($98.70 USD) than in all other OECD countries ($8.81 on average). Even when using net prices, which incorporate possible rebates, U.S. prices would be roughly four times higher than in other countries.


Uncle Pennybags wins again!

PatSeg

(53,206 posts)
19. I've ordered prescription drugs
Sun Aug 7, 2022, 12:24 PM
Aug 2022

from other countries and for the most part the prices were dramatically cheaper. The companies that processed my orders were in Canada, but the medications came from several different countries. The only downsides are it can take weeks for the medications to arrive and some drugs may not be available.

Desert_Leslie

(131 posts)
12. I take insulin
Sun Aug 7, 2022, 12:02 PM
Aug 2022

I've had type 1 diabetes for 51 years ... I've seen insulin skyrocket in price.

This is such a losing issue for the GOP. Stories of diabetics DYING because they couldn't afford high-priced insulin has been splashed across the news. It's now a widely known problem that generates much sympathy.

Mitch couldn't find 4 more GOP senators? "Vote for this bill ... having it fail makes us look uncaring and heartless."

Get ready for upcoming Democrat advertisements. They will eviscerate the GOP.

pnwmom

(110,255 posts)
13. No, the REAL headline is correct. If the R's hadn't blocked it, it wouldn't have had
Sun Aug 7, 2022, 12:08 PM
Aug 2022

to go to the Parliamentarian.

3825-87867

(1,934 posts)
22. I'm Confused
Sun Aug 7, 2022, 12:31 PM
Aug 2022

According to this article, a presiding officer has the power to overrule the parlimentarian.

MacDonough was a non-partisan appointment. She was named to that position by then Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid after serving in the Parliamentarian’s office since 1999. The Parliamentarian serves at the request of the leader of the majority faction in the House or Senate. In MacDonough’s case, Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell would have the ability to dismiss a Parliamentarian if he felt that was an appropriate action. That does happen rarely. In 2001, Trent Lott dismissed Robert Dove, the Senate Parliamentarian, after Republicans were angry that Dove, also a Republican appointee, disallowed spending measures as violating the Byrd Rule.

And on rare occasions, a presiding officer will overrule the Parliamentarian. In 1975, Vice President Nelson Rockefeller ignored advice from Senate Parliamentarian Floyd Riddick about the proper procedure for handing a vote about changing the Senate’s filibuster rules.

Maybe it can be done? Anyone?

https://constitutioncenter.org/interactive-constitution/blog/who-is-the-senate-parliamentarian-and-what-does-she-do

grantcart

(53,061 posts)
33. It can be done but both sides avoid doing it except in rare cases
Sun Aug 7, 2022, 12:55 PM
Aug 2022

If we do it here then the Republicans would do it a million times.

Both sides want to protect the integrity of the Parliamentarian.

BumRushDaShow

(169,384 posts)
25. True and that goes back even before this effort with this that languishes in the Senate
Sun Aug 7, 2022, 12:35 PM
Aug 2022

passed by the House back in March.

H.R.6833 - Affordable Insulin Now Act

Senate companion bill here -

S.3700 - Affordable Insulin Now Act

Fiendish Thingy

(23,115 posts)
17. The pharma portion of the bill has been diluted to the point of meaninglessness
Sun Aug 7, 2022, 12:22 PM
Aug 2022

It only covers a handful of drugs, for Medicare only and doesn’t kick in until 2026, and now the one provision that would have benefited everyone taking insulin has been watered down as well.

While some may say it’s better than nothing, the benefits for most Americans is exactly that, nothing.

ColinC

(11,098 posts)
21. We need to fight like hell to win full control of the legislature.
Sun Aug 7, 2022, 12:29 PM
Aug 2022

Anything in-between is unacceptable.

kirby

(4,534 posts)
29. Even the Dems should be ashamed...
Sun Aug 7, 2022, 12:41 PM
Aug 2022

This bill is a joke with respect to medicare negotiation. As you say, it doesn't even allow negotiation to start until 2026. And then in 2026 it is only for 10 drugs! Finally in 2029 it is up to a whopping 20 drugs.

 

oldsoftie

(13,538 posts)
32. Its amazing how often these things don't go into effect until someone ELSE is in office.
Sun Aug 7, 2022, 12:53 PM
Aug 2022

Or how they give us some grand number for "revenue" or "savings" and forget to mention the "over the next ten years" part.

moose65

(3,454 posts)
57. I wonder why they delayed it until 2026?
Mon Aug 8, 2022, 11:09 AM
Aug 2022

Is there ever a reason given for stuff like this? Why should this take FOUR YEARS to implement??

 

Hestia

(3,818 posts)
58. Because it has always been thus; or they do run future projections
Tue Aug 9, 2022, 06:06 PM
Aug 2022

and are laying the foundation(s) now for next 3-4 years FY projections.

That's my conjecture until corrected or confirmed...

louis-t

(24,614 posts)
30. Every Dem ad should contain this headline
Sun Aug 7, 2022, 12:50 PM
Aug 2022

and a photo of repugs high-fiving each other after blocking benefits for veterans. That's how you win elections.

Ferrets are Cool

(22,937 posts)
31. They, repugs, are so damned arrogant that they believe this shit doesn't resonate with voters.
Sun Aug 7, 2022, 12:51 PM
Aug 2022

And the sad thing is, they are correct in many cases.

mwooldri

(10,817 posts)
36. Okay, which Republicans voted to block this?
Sun Aug 7, 2022, 01:45 PM
Aug 2022

Or simply put- which Republicans voted with the Dems (as that list is obviously shorter)???

BumRushDaShow

(169,384 posts)
38. Had to dig but here is roll call for that amendment
Sun Aug 7, 2022, 02:13 PM
Aug 2022
https://www.senate.gov/legislative/LIS/roll_call_votes/vote1172/vote_117_2_00314.htm

The GOP nays -

NAYs ---43

Barrasso (R-WY)
Blackburn (R-TN)
Blunt (R-MO)
Boozman (R-AR)
Braun (R-IN)
Burr (R-NC)
Capito (R-WV)
Cornyn (R-TX)
Cotton (R-AR)
Cramer (R-ND)
Crapo (R-ID)
Cruz (R-TX)
Daines (R-MT)
Ernst (R-IA)
Fischer (R-NE)
Graham (R-SC)
Grassley (R-IA)
Hagerty (R-TN)
Hoeven (R-ND)
Inhofe (R-OK)
Johnson (R-WI)
Lankford (R-OK)
Lee (R-UT)
Lummis (R-WY)
Marshall (R-KS)
McConnell (R-KY)
Moran (R-KS)
Paul (R-KY)
Portman (R-OH)
Risch (R-ID)
Romney (R-UT)
Rounds (R-SD)
Rubio (R-FL)
Sasse (R-NE)
Scott (R-FL)
Scott (R-SC)
Shelby (R-AL)
Thune (R-SD)
Tillis (R-NC)
Toomey (R-PA)
Tuberville (R-AL)
Wicker (R-MS)
Young (R-IN)


But here is what is somewhat shocking for the 7 GOPers who voted FOR it -

YEAs ---57

Cassidy (R-LA)
Collins (R-ME)
Hawley (R-MO)
Hyde-Smith (R-MS)
Kennedy (R-LA)
Murkowski (R-AK)
Sullivan (R-AK)


Hawley? Really?

JT45242

(4,032 posts)
37. Which 7 rethugs did the right thing?
Sun Aug 7, 2022, 02:06 PM
Aug 2022

It wod seem those up for reelection should have voted for it...but Paul, Johnson, Grassley, and Rubio rarely do the right thing

BumRushDaShow

(169,384 posts)
40. Just posted above
Sun Aug 7, 2022, 02:16 PM
Aug 2022
https://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1014&pid=2952834

The lunatic white supremacist insurrectionist Hawley actually voted FOR it! Maybe it was a mistake or maybe he is getting shit from MO. Something!

Response to BumRushDaShow (Reply #40)

 

ZonkerHarris

(25,577 posts)
39. When they do things like this we need to respond with ads on TV and the Internet immediately
Sun Aug 7, 2022, 02:16 PM
Aug 2022

BumRushDaShow

(169,384 posts)
42. Mandela Barnes, Lt. Gov of Wisconsin running against Ron Johnson, who gets barely noticed on DU
Sun Aug 7, 2022, 02:28 PM
Aug 2022

tweeted this -




Mandela Barnes
@TheOtherMandela
·
Follow
Ron Johnson just blocked a bill to cap insulin costs at $35 a month.

No one should have to choose between a medication their life depends on and putting food on the table. But Ron Johnson doesn’t care—he’s bought and paid for by the pharma lobby.
11:53 AM · Aug 7, 2022


Cheri Beasley, another Democrat running for Senate, but in NC who gets little or no attention on DU tweeted this -




Cheri Beasley
@CheriBeasleyNC
·
Follow
When given the opportunity to cap insulin costs at $35 a month, both North Carolina senators voted against lowering costs for the 1.3 million North Carolinians living with diabetes.
Cheri Beasley
@CheriBeasleyNC
🌎: $16
🇺🇸: $220

That's the average cost a month for insulin. Politicians had the chance to make insulin affordable, and Ted Budd voted against it.

1.3 million North Carolinians living with diabetes deserve a Senator who will make insulin more affordable. Watch our latest ad:
Embedded video
1:00 PM · Aug 7, 2022


And the one running in my state, John Fetterman, who is still alive, despite many on DU predicting his demise, tweeted this -




John Fetterman
@JohnFetterman
·
Follow
US Senate candidate, PA
Dr. Oz + his Republican allies want you to pay outrageous prices for lifesaving medications.

They don’t give a sh*t if people are struggling.

Oz won’t stand up to Big Pharma but I WILL
Bill Pascrell, Jr. 🇺🇸🇺🇦
@BillPascrell
Here are the mcconnell republican senators who just killed capping insulin at $35. Republicans told millions of Americans who use insulin to go to hell. Remember their names.
Image
1:43 PM · Aug 7, 2022


Novara

(6,115 posts)
41. With gerrymandering and voter suppression this won't hurt them.
Sun Aug 7, 2022, 02:18 PM
Aug 2022

They won't pay a political cost.

BumRushDaShow

(169,384 posts)
45. It'll hurt 'em in the Senate
Sun Aug 7, 2022, 02:32 PM
Aug 2022

and holding the Senate at least allows nominees (especially tot he judiciary) to continue to move forward.

Many of the seats that the pollsters are looking at are (D) swing seats and assuming losses, but based on Roe and just a panoply of other ridiculous extremist moves by the GOP the past couple months, may help to solidify those.

LudwigPastorius

(14,685 posts)
47. The Canny Kenyan strikes again!
Sun Aug 7, 2022, 02:47 PM
Aug 2022

Obama is obviously using a Muslim Mind Ray to make those Republicans vote to bolster his death panels.

jerseyjim

(129 posts)
48. MEAN!
Sun Aug 7, 2022, 03:24 PM
Aug 2022

I keep on asking myself "What the hell is the matter with them?"
They seem to be dead against anything that will be good for America. I think a lot of it is just for spite.
I just read that people like Cruz and Bannon are calling for more violence. Lunatics!

Snackshack

(2,585 posts)
49. Again, this person is not elected.
Sun Aug 7, 2022, 03:25 PM
Aug 2022

How is she being allowed to add or take away anything from legislation.

None the less VP Harris as President of the Senate could have stepped up and overruled her but that would have ruffled feathers and...can't do that even though the GOP would have no problem doing that remember the SCOTUS vote, which is why Dems will always being

Thanks

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