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BumRushDaShow

(128,905 posts)
Mon Aug 8, 2022, 07:02 PM Aug 2022

FBI executes search warrant at Trump's Mar-a-Lago in document investigation

Last edited Mon Aug 8, 2022, 08:24 PM - Edit history (2)

Source: CNN

(CNN)The FBI executed a search warrant on Monday at Donald Trump's Mar-a-Lago resort in Palm Beach, Florida, as part of an investigation into the handling of presidential documents, including classified documents, that may have been brought to Florida, three people familiar with the situation say.

Trump confirmed that FBI agents were at Mar-a-Lago and said "they even broke into my safe." "My beautiful home, Mar-A-Lago in Palm Beach, Florida, is currently under siege, raided, and occupied by a large group of FBI agents," he said in a statement Monday evening. The former President was not in Florida at the time that the search warrant was executed.

The search began early Monday morning and law enforcement personnel appeared to be focused on the area of the club where Trump's offices and personal quarters are, according to a person familiar with the matter. The Justice Department declined to comment to CNN, as did the White House. A White House official said it was not notified about the search. CNN has reached out to the FBI for comment.

The Justice Department has two known active investigations connected to the former President, one on the effort to overturn the 2020 presidential election and January 6, 2021, and the other involving the handling of classified documents. The National Archives, charged with collecting and sorting presidential material, has previously said at least 15 boxes of White House records were recovered from Trump's Mar-a-Lago resort -- including some that were classified. In April and May, aides to Trump at Mar-a-Lago were interviewed by the FBI as part of the probe into the handling of presidential records, according to a source familiar with the matter.


This story is breaking and will be updated.

Read more: https://www.cnn.com/2022/08/08/politics/mar-a-lago-search-warrant-fbi-donald-trump/index.html



Slow updates coming.

Latest earlier update with original headline -

FBI executes search warrant at Trump's Mar-a-Lago, former President says

(CNN) The FBI executed a search warrant on Monday at Donald Trump's Mar-a-Lago resort in Palm Beach, Florida, the former President confirmed to CNN.

Trump declined to say why the FBI agents were at Mar-a-Lago, but the former President said the raid was unannounced and "they even broke into my safe." "My beautiful home, Mar-A-Lago in Palm Beach, Florida, is currently under siege, raided, and occupied by a large group of FBI agents," he said in a statement.

Trump was not in Florida at the time of the raid. The raid began early Monday morning and law enforcement personnel appeared to be focused on the area of the club where Trump's offices and personal quarters are, according to a person familiar with the matter.

The Justice Department declined to comment, as did the White House. A White House official said it was not notified about the raid. CNN has reached out to the FBI for comment.


This story is breaking and will be updated.



Last update -

(CNN) The FBI executed a search warrant on Monday at Donald Trump's Mar-a-Lago resort in Palm Beach, Florida, the former President confirmed to CNN.

Trump declined to say why the FBI agents were at Mar-a-Lago, but the former President said the raid was unannounced and "they even broke into my safe."

"My beautiful home, Mar-A-Lago in Palm Beach, Florida, is currently under siege, raided, and occupied by a large group of FBI agents," he said in a statement.

Trump was not in Florida at the time of the raid. The Justice Department declined to comment, as did the White House. CNN has reached out to the FBI for comment.


This story is breaking and will be updated.


Previous update -

(CNN) The FBI executed a search warrant on Monday at Donald Trump's Mar-a-Lago resort in Palm Beach, Florida, the former President confirmed to CNN.

Trump declined to say why the FBI agents were at Mar-a-Lago, but the former President said the raid was unannounced and "they even broke into my safe."

"My beautiful home, Mar-A-Lago in Palm Beach, Florida, is currently under siege, raided, and occupied by a large group of FBI agents," he said in a statement.

This story is breaking and will be updated.


Original article -

(CNN)The FBI executed a search warrant on Monday at Donald Trump's Mar-a-Lago resort in Palm Beach, Florida, the former President confirms to CNN.

This story is breaking and will be updated.
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FBI executes search warrant at Trump's Mar-a-Lago in document investigation (Original Post) BumRushDaShow Aug 2022 OP
Good. SouthernIrish Aug 2022 #1
Did they duck walk him out to a police car? COL Mustard Aug 2022 #2
he wasn't there.... getagrip_already Aug 2022 #19
not being there, the uncertainty must have him in a panic attack! certainot Aug 2022 #46
Poor New Jersey COL Mustard Aug 2022 #68
I assure you that despite our "reputation," New Jersey is a kind of... NNadir Aug 2022 #181
I lived in Hoboken for a few years in the 1990s COL Mustard Aug 2022 #202
Well, I consider Hoboken to be an unofficial borough of NY City. When I grew up on Long Island... NNadir Aug 2022 #204
Holy shit!!! paleotn Aug 2022 #3
Exactly.. my first thought.. First Time Cha Aug 2022 #128
Yeah, has a former president's residence ever been raided? Farmer-Rick Aug 2022 #140
First time we ever had such a blatant criminal President. COL Mustard Aug 2022 #203
Ha! Trump installed Christopher Wray. no_hypocrisy Aug 2022 #4
I'm going to need a lot more popcorn! Trailrider1951 Aug 2022 #5
You're going to need one of those Corporate Size Gift Popcorn Canisters! 😂 electric_blue68 Aug 2022 #49
I go thru those for breakfast!!!! Karma13612 Aug 2022 #85
👍 electric_blue68 Aug 2022 #87
Don't oversalt it or you'll have a stroke COL Mustard Aug 2022 #69
Remember: Outlive a Trump Voter! GopherGal Aug 2022 #129
I have a theatrical popper! ChazInAz Aug 2022 #108
Is it the old school moniss Aug 2022 #135
The very thing! ChazInAz Aug 2022 #190
Small grocery bag and a microwave. Or a pan over a burner. alfredo Aug 2022 #197
Hope they brought some Playtex gloves. Mr. Evil Aug 2022 #6
new guy gets that job. Yewww Evolve Dammit Aug 2022 #42
Oh shit. Can you imagine? Mr. Evil Aug 2022 #50
*Gack* Evolve Dammit Aug 2022 #193
Gibbs rule #2 keroro gunsou Aug 2022 #176
OMG! Womp! Baked Potato Aug 2022 #7
OH FUCK!!!😂😂😂 Traildogbob Aug 2022 #12
+1 dalton99a Aug 2022 #22
OMG! llmart Aug 2022 #56
he put on 30 to 50 lbs since then, maybe this will give him a stroke. certainot Aug 2022 #64
He's going to have a "stroke" CanonRay Aug 2022 #104
he'll have to have his big macs flown in certainot Aug 2022 #186
Dancing to "Why, FBI?" (nt) Pinback Aug 2022 #139
this is exactly how a NJCher Aug 2022 #164
They should've done so after it was discovered that Trump swiped 15 boxes of classified LaMouffette Aug 2022 #8
Agree with the stolen docs and sentiment. Such a brazen mob boss criminal. Evolve Dammit Aug 2022 #37
How many has Putin read by now? not fooled Aug 2022 #122
Exactly! Everything Trump does is transactional. I'm absolutely certain he was planning to sell the LaMouffette Aug 2022 #144
If I had to money to bank, I'd wager they'll be coming up empty handed. msfiddlestix Aug 2022 #189
This is the perfect response to TFG complaining about being searched by the FBI LetMyPeopleVote Aug 2022 #9
Heh! electric_blue68 Aug 2022 #40
Well, Drumph there's Never Been a "pResident" Like U EITHER!!!!! electric_blue68 Aug 2022 #44
That's fantastic! Danascot Aug 2022 #114
No pResident ever flushed evidence down the toilet either. TigressDem Aug 2022 #201
I hope they check the toilets. Arkansas Granny Aug 2022 #10
Ahem Merrick Garland! mcar Aug 2022 #11
That's beautiful! greatauntoftriplets Aug 2022 #23
LOL BumRushDaShow Aug 2022 #26
"Invisble man, sleeping in your bed...who ya gonna call CTyankee Aug 2022 #205
It's a great movie BumRushDaShow Aug 2022 #206
This was cleared by the highest authority... paleotn Aug 2022 #27
That's right mcar Aug 2022 #29
Sure as hell woke me up. paleotn Aug 2022 #33
... mcar Aug 2022 #34
This is all I've asked for from the start Orrex Aug 2022 #149
OR EndlessWire Aug 2022 #151
Thank you. intrepidity Aug 2022 #194
So you're saying they DID investigate claims about Brett Kavanaugh? dchill Aug 2022 #57
What? mcar Aug 2022 #59
That's what I said! dchill Aug 2022 #65
You know... dchill Aug 2022 #72
Yes, I know mcar Aug 2022 #73
It's like a bookend to what you're saying. dchill Aug 2022 #80
That was in 2018, when the Attorney General was Jeff Sessions muriel_volestrangler Aug 2022 #171
Same FBI Director, thought. dchill Aug 2022 #172
Since the subthread is about Garland, and the talk has for months been about Garland muriel_volestrangler Aug 2022 #174
TrumpCrimeSyndicate Bread and Circuses Aug 2022 #13
Roto Rooter if you are listening, please find his illegal notes! NT texasfiddler Aug 2022 #14
I hope they wore hazmat suits. William769 Aug 2022 #15
Check under the head rug!! Traildogbob Aug 2022 #16
... William769 Aug 2022 #17
Whoooooop!!!! Scrivener7 Aug 2022 #18
Make that 2 onetexan Aug 2022 #47
Maybe it's evidence that Ted Cruz is the Zodiac killer. chowder66 Aug 2022 #20
That wouldn't surprise me. paleotn Aug 2022 #30
: ) chowder66 Aug 2022 #38
I Think Garland Might Be Owed An Apology... GB_RN Aug 2022 #21
There is a God Evolve Dammit Aug 2022 #24
Anxious for the details 867-5309. Aug 2022 #25
They didn't get this warrant without MASSIVE amounts of evidence. herding cats Aug 2022 #28
Well this news brightens my day. Pepsidog Aug 2022 #31
Maybe Mark Meadows has flipped after all Walleye Aug 2022 #32
Someone sure did. herding cats Aug 2022 #36
That's what I'm thinking, too. n/t EndlessWire Aug 2022 #152
Someone is giving info. I think it's Meadows, my son thinks it's Allen Weisselberg, CFO AnotherMother4Peace Aug 2022 #43
I think your odds are better than Jr's but you might both be wrong InstantGratification Aug 2022 #126
Welcome to DU & thanks for the reply. Perhaps you were a lawyer in a former life. nt AnotherMother4Peace Aug 2022 #142
Maybe the person who gave the FBI information ... Novara Aug 2022 #195
I can't wait for Rachel Maddow's show tonight...it should be a real treat. patphil Aug 2022 #35
Oh, yeah! Perfect timing! 😂 electric_blue68 Aug 2022 #61
Profanity warning... because I can't help myself! CaptainTruth Aug 2022 #39
FINALLY!!! 👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏 SheltieLover Aug 2022 #41
Not enough of these BumRushDaShow Aug 2022 #45
Ikr!?! SheltieLover Aug 2022 #48
I almost used those BumRushDaShow Aug 2022 #52
An extra one for you to jump on 👆 SheltieLover Aug 2022 #67
LOL BumRushDaShow Aug 2022 #71
Wonder why they wouldn'f search them all at the same time! SheltieLover Aug 2022 #76
They have to be pretty specific in the warrant BumRushDaShow Aug 2022 #84
Has anyone who is not a professional liar confirmed this? SheltieLover Aug 2022 #88
MSNBC BumRushDaShow Aug 2022 #92
Condolences to NYC SheltieLover Aug 2022 #94
I have to wonder, since SS had adv warning SheltieLover Aug 2022 #99
Well that might be a separate issue BumRushDaShow Aug 2022 #111
Thx! SheltieLover Aug 2022 #116
I know... BumRushDaShow Aug 2022 #119
None of them have been fired, let alone arrested! SheltieLover Aug 2022 #120
Well we might not necessarily know that BumRushDaShow Aug 2022 #121
I can only hope SheltieLover Aug 2022 #123
My first thought as well. SergeStorms Aug 2022 #136
Hopefully! SheltieLover Aug 2022 #137
His SS -- Better Days Ahoy Aug 2022 #141
Yes, MSNBC. ShazzieB Aug 2022 #168
I can't help believing that the previous Commander-is-Thief has already sold access Dark n Stormy Knight Aug 2022 #159
As has been noted by multiple former DOJ pundits BumRushDaShow Aug 2022 #161
Will we ever even learn most of what was on that list? According to a few talking heads tonight, Dark n Stormy Knight Aug 2022 #167
I doubt it BumRushDaShow Aug 2022 #177
Raise your hand if your house was not just raided by the FBI LetMyPeopleVote Aug 2022 #51
Perfect! 😂 ( Our 🧡 Madam President! ) electric_blue68 Aug 2022 #66
Excellent thread explaining how the feds could get a warrant like this, and why Groper could be... Pluvious Aug 2022 #53
Excellent! Excellent! SergeStorms Aug 2022 #54
lets go for a 2fer and see a raid on his new jersey house moonshinegnomie Aug 2022 #55
More butter, please Hekate Aug 2022 #58
I am reading all of your Raid comments. More more more Tetrachloride Aug 2022 #60
Oh, it's a happy day! iluvtennis Aug 2022 #62
To all the pundits Traildogbob Aug 2022 #63
Florida man's home raided by FBI. twodogsbarking Aug 2022 #70
LOL! n/t EndlessWire Aug 2022 #154
Why didn't he just open the fucking safe? Warpy Aug 2022 #74
He wasn't in Florida when they raided. C Moon Aug 2022 #82
He wasn't home. NH Ethylene Aug 2022 #93
Ohhhh...dance, Dance, DAA-ANCEEEE!!! electric_blue68 Aug 2022 #75
They're gonna toss his ass d_b Aug 2022 #77
But, but, but...Attorney General Garland is an institutionalist... brooklynite Aug 2022 #78
A bit late Rebl2 Aug 2022 #79
This month just keeps getting better and better AllyCat Aug 2022 #81
Speculation it's about the records that were taken from the White House n/t 867-5309. Aug 2022 #83
Poor agent who got the toilet duty .... nt Jarqui Aug 2022 #86
The RTumpster's Statement, in full... ultralite001 Aug 2022 #89
No way Trump wrote that. 3catwoman3 Aug 2022 #98
Oh, boy, pass the wine. Joinfortmill Aug 2022 #90
I've read his whiny statement 3 times BootinUp Aug 2022 #91
If while executing a search warrant . . . AverageOldGuy Aug 2022 #95
I just poured some good single malt. nycbos Aug 2022 #96
LOL ffr Aug 2022 #101
Glenlivet? rubbersole Aug 2022 #102
Aberlour nycbos Aug 2022 #113
The FBI cracked his safe. Kid Berwyn Aug 2022 #97
Watching heads explode on Faux Noise Lasher Aug 2022 #100
I hope they remember to recover the Presidential silverware pecosbob Aug 2022 #103
This is HUGELY! liberal N proud Aug 2022 #105
K&R Hiawatha Pete Aug 2022 #106
My hopes aren't too high SpankMe Aug 2022 #107
Please let this be the start of what rids the world of this maggot! hamsterjill Aug 2022 #109
No one is above the law Mysterian Aug 2022 #110
Trump was hoisted on his own petard Murphyb849 Aug 2022 #112
Check the toilets SouthernDem4ever Aug 2022 #115
I've seen some handwringing by Trump sympathizers claiming he's being martyred Jarqui Aug 2022 #117
. Beachnutt Aug 2022 #118
Raise your hand.. whose house has NOT been Raided by FBI today? Cha Aug 2022 #124
I didn't wake up until 3PM so this was the first news of the day BigmanPigman Aug 2022 #125
Dark Brandon ancianita Aug 2022 #127
Watching Rachel Maddow talk about the raid infullview Aug 2022 #130
I have her on too! BumRushDaShow Aug 2022 #132
Just text me when you get close Karma13612 Aug 2022 #143
Some talk of very highly classified material tonekat Aug 2022 #131
Oh, the horror! The Shame! Those evil FBI agents! What they did: Wonder Why Aug 2022 #133
Da Memes... Da Memes... ultralite001 Aug 2022 #134
The raid of Mar-a-Lago was a beautiful raid. BootinUp Aug 2022 #138
A perfect raid Jimbo S Aug 2022 #187
Miami Herald 09:34 pm update... ultralite001 Aug 2022 #145
Bout forkin time Pas-de-Calais Aug 2022 #146
Someone's smiling... Pluvious Aug 2022 #147
Just remember, Chris Wray still heads the FBI TexasBushwhacker Aug 2022 #148
FINALLY that braying, idiotic, orange motherfucker BigDemVoter Aug 2022 #150
I switched to Hannity to see what they were saying G2theD Aug 2022 #153
Where are the pictures? EndlessWire Aug 2022 #155
Woohoo BlueWavePsych Aug 2022 #156
Excellent news! n/t xocetaceans Aug 2022 #157
My Trump loving relatives Ollie Garkie Aug 2022 #158
Dance Dance Dance! jimlup Aug 2022 #160
... BumRushDaShow Aug 2022 #162
Dang SilasSouleII Aug 2022 #166
Saw Chic and Earth, Wind & Fire in concert here in Philly back in 2017 BumRushDaShow Aug 2022 #175
Nervous, Donny? orangecrush Aug 2022 #163
We have only the best raids. G2theD Aug 2022 #165
Again? blue-wave Aug 2022 #169
They broke into TFG's safe LetMyPeopleVote Aug 2022 #170
Of course we're laughing, and enjoying every minute of this. wnylib Aug 2022 #184
It's just over 90 days till the election... Kablooie Aug 2022 #173
"over 90 days till the election...DOJ has a policy not to do anything that could affect an election" BumRushDaShow Aug 2022 #178
Mccarthy is threatening to investigate AG Merrick Garland if the Rethugs win the House @midterms onetexan Aug 2022 #179
My first take: CLASSIFIED DOCUMENTS ARE MISSING Novara Aug 2022 #180
Did anyone inspect Ivana's coffin before it went into the ground? Good hiding place. Just askin'. Scalded Nun Aug 2022 #182
it would be a shame if people started trolling the far right over this moonshinegnomie Aug 2022 #183
Alright Donny, what did you do with the ferris wheel? sheilahi Aug 2022 #185
To be known in history as 8-8-22 twodogsbarking Aug 2022 #188
To go along with this BumRushDaShow Aug 2022 #191
What are the odds that any single document is found at Magalardo palace? msfiddlestix Aug 2022 #192
I expect most of it he had no clue what it was BumRushDaShow Aug 2022 #199
I just now read about the Fortified Bunkers underneath msfiddlestix Aug 2022 #200
I wonder how many of the classified docs were shared with Russia? alfredo Aug 2022 #196
"Under siege, raided, and occupied" Shoonra Aug 2022 #198

NNadir

(33,515 posts)
181. I assure you that despite our "reputation," New Jersey is a kind of...
Tue Aug 9, 2022, 07:49 AM
Aug 2022

...nirvana.

I used to hold a low opinion of the State, until I had the privilege of moving here.

COL Mustard

(5,897 posts)
202. I lived in Hoboken for a few years in the 1990s
Tue Aug 9, 2022, 07:31 PM
Aug 2022

Was going to grad school at NJIT. We had a nice time but it was very congested and noisy and I was glad to move back to suburbia.

NNadir

(33,515 posts)
204. Well, I consider Hoboken to be an unofficial borough of NY City. When I grew up on Long Island...
Tue Aug 9, 2022, 08:52 PM
Aug 2022

...I thought NJ was a giant refinery. (We used to laugh at the "Garden State" plates on Long Island.)

I live in the Princeton area. It's heaven.

I can get concrete when I want it (NY, Philadelphia) or need it for cultural reasons. We have fields, forests, can get out to the beach in about an hour, have access to some of the greatest libraries in the world, decent mass transit, lots of wild animals, (although the deer are a problem), wild turkeys, turkey vultures, fox, groundhogs, an occasional bear, orchards, farms, rivers, streams, preserved areas, great bicycle paths, hiking trails...

I took a job here to be closer to family. My wife cried when we left California; now she'd never agree to go back there.

Cha

(297,190 posts)
128. Exactly.. my first thought.. First Time
Mon Aug 8, 2022, 09:05 PM
Aug 2022

FBI is Raiding an EX pres's Winter WH or what ever the Hell ML is.

His Domestic Terrorist Fans Raided Our WH.. Now his shithole home gets Raided by the FBI.

Farmer-Rick

(10,163 posts)
140. Yeah, has a former president's residence ever been raided?
Mon Aug 8, 2022, 09:34 PM
Aug 2022

I mean this is really big. I think they are finally taking TFG for the serious threat to our democracy that he really is.

Good move.

COL Mustard

(5,897 posts)
203. First time we ever had such a blatant criminal President.
Tue Aug 9, 2022, 07:32 PM
Aug 2022

Nixon was bad, but he looks like a Boy Scout by comparison.

Karma13612

(4,552 posts)
85. I go thru those for breakfast!!!!
Mon Aug 8, 2022, 08:00 PM
Aug 2022

Haha!!



But, yea, It’s after dinner, and I’m still a bit hungry. Might be time for a nice big bowl of popcorn and maybe even a summer-appropriate margarita!!

GopherGal

(2,008 posts)
129. Remember: Outlive a Trump Voter!
Mon Aug 8, 2022, 09:07 PM
Aug 2022

Even though it was too hot for my walk today, but I did at least eat my "outlive a Trumper" salad for dinner last night!

moniss

(4,231 posts)
135. Is it the old school
Mon Aug 8, 2022, 09:19 PM
Aug 2022

one that drizzles butter from that shiny pan hanging in the middle? I love those things.

alfredo

(60,071 posts)
197. Small grocery bag and a microwave. Or a pan over a burner.
Tue Aug 9, 2022, 11:08 AM
Aug 2022

Salt, parmesan, and nutritional yeast, oh my.

Mr. Evil

(2,841 posts)
50. Oh shit. Can you imagine?
Mon Aug 8, 2022, 07:40 PM
Aug 2022

Recent proud graduate at Quantico and your first assignment is to search TFG's toilet.

Traildogbob

(8,731 posts)
12. OH FUCK!!!😂😂😂
Mon Aug 8, 2022, 07:10 PM
Aug 2022

You could not have posted a better meme. Thank you for the laugh of the month. This news makes me feel like I just had a Cawthorn Key Bump, and I never did coke. Come on God, give us a sign to booster our faith and hope.

LaMouffette

(2,030 posts)
8. They should've done so after it was discovered that Trump swiped 15 boxes of classified
Mon Aug 8, 2022, 07:08 PM
Aug 2022

White House records and squirreled them away at Mar-a-Lago.

I hope this is the beginning of the end for Trump and that he is finally held accountable for his many crimes.

LaMouffette

(2,030 posts)
144. Exactly! Everything Trump does is transactional. I'm absolutely certain he was planning to sell the
Mon Aug 8, 2022, 09:41 PM
Aug 2022

documents to Russia, North Korea, China . . .

Traitor Trump, you and Paul Manafort were cut from the same sleazy, greedy, self-serving cloth. (I know. How can a cloth be described as sleazy, greedy, or self-serving? But I am too livid right now to get my metaphors in order!)

msfiddlestix

(7,281 posts)
189. If I had to money to bank, I'd wager they'll be coming up empty handed.
Tue Aug 9, 2022, 10:02 AM
Aug 2022

You don't give a thief a year and half to hide and/or dispose it all.

TigressDem

(5,125 posts)
201. No pResident ever flushed evidence down the toilet either.
Tue Aug 9, 2022, 12:11 PM
Aug 2022

Or advised people against following medical advise that could save their lives.

Or forced troops to stay at his own hotel and pay such an inflated rate that they couldn't afford to buy the food there.

Or... so many things.

Get over yourself Donna.

You're NOT all that anyway.








mcar

(42,307 posts)
11. Ahem Merrick Garland!
Mon Aug 8, 2022, 07:10 PM
Aug 2022

?s=20&t=MBiwQUT10uOmQrpUTBM2OA

Are you trying to tell me that the Justice Department does things without the people knowing about it? In secret? That sounds CRAAAAAAZY.

Or, IDK, exactly how it should be.

CTyankee

(63,912 posts)
205. "Invisble man, sleeping in your bed...who ya gonna call
Wed Aug 10, 2022, 09:13 AM
Aug 2022

GHOSTBUSTERS!"

I laughed myself sick over that movie...

paleotn

(17,912 posts)
27. This was cleared by the highest authority...
Mon Aug 8, 2022, 07:26 PM
Aug 2022

In this case, Merrick Garland. Absolutely no way Garland didn't sign off on this personally.

mcar

(42,307 posts)
29. That's right
Mon Aug 8, 2022, 07:28 PM
Aug 2022

So, maybe all the people on this board who are constantly complaining that Garland isn't doing anything could wake up?

Orrex

(63,208 posts)
149. This is all I've asked for from the start
Mon Aug 8, 2022, 09:57 PM
Aug 2022

I am not comforted by blindly faithful reassurances given by people in no position to give them, so in the absence of any visible forward motion is it entirely reasonable to express concern about it.

If this raid pans out, as I am very hopeful that it will, then I will be happy to recant my previous doubts.

EndlessWire

(6,522 posts)
151. OR
Mon Aug 8, 2022, 10:04 PM
Aug 2022

Maybe all the complaints caused Garland to wake up? After all, he had important people on the J6 publicly telling DOJ to make a move.

What is the source of this raid, anyway. May not even come from Garland.

dchill

(38,482 posts)
80. It's like a bookend to what you're saying.
Mon Aug 8, 2022, 07:57 PM
Aug 2022

They also are NOT doing things they represent that they ARE doing.

muriel_volestrangler

(101,311 posts)
171. That was in 2018, when the Attorney General was Jeff Sessions
Tue Aug 9, 2022, 03:26 AM
Aug 2022

so not really relevant to a sub-thread about Merrick Garland.

muriel_volestrangler

(101,311 posts)
174. Since the subthread is about Garland, and the talk has for months been about Garland
Tue Aug 9, 2022, 03:42 AM
Aug 2022

not doing enough (and I should add I've criticised him), making it all about Wray seems like a diversion.

GB_RN

(2,350 posts)
21. I Think Garland Might Be Owed An Apology...
Mon Aug 8, 2022, 07:24 PM
Aug 2022

FBI raids don't usually come until close to the end, or if there is suspicion of imminent destruction of evidence.

herding cats

(19,564 posts)
28. They didn't get this warrant without MASSIVE amounts of evidence.
Mon Aug 8, 2022, 07:27 PM
Aug 2022

Think about it, this is huge!

I'm giddy here! 😂

AnotherMother4Peace

(4,243 posts)
43. Someone is giving info. I think it's Meadows, my son thinks it's Allen Weisselberg, CFO
Mon Aug 8, 2022, 07:34 PM
Aug 2022

of the trump org.

People "in the know" are saying that someone is definitely talking.

126. I think your odds are better than Jr's but you might both be wrong
Mon Aug 8, 2022, 09:04 PM
Aug 2022

This is a search related to the classified documents taken illegally. Weisselberg wouldn't have any access to or knowledge of that. If anyone flipped, it's someone inside the administration who had knowledge of those docs. Meadows could be the one. Could be someone else. It might be that no one flipped.

I (as a none lawyer) would think the KNOWN presence of classified docs at Mar A Lardass would be enough to sustain a search warrant application all on it's own. The reason this hasn't happened sooner was just chasing down the leads to see who was involved. A search warrant requires the applicant to name the place to be searched and the items/information being searched for to be named. You don't tip off where the investigation currently stands or where it is going while valid evidence and leads are still coming in from more stealthy sources unless you think that info is about to be destroyed. Usually the better play is to keep things on the down low and let the targets get complacent while you run down every lead.

Caveat: I am not a lawyer. I don't play one on TV. I didn't sleep at a Holiday Inn Express last night. The opinions expressed above are solely my own and are not necessarily the views of this network.

Novara

(5,841 posts)
195. Maybe the person who gave the FBI information ...
Tue Aug 9, 2022, 10:54 AM
Aug 2022

... might be someone he tried to sell the documents to? I wonder if it even could have been a sting? (Of course this is all speculation)

I am assuming that they've had problems getting all of the classified documents back is because he kept them to sell them. We know he's got a lot of loans coming due with no way to pay them. And no one wants to lend him money anymore.

CaptainTruth

(6,589 posts)
39. Profanity warning... because I can't help myself!
Mon Aug 8, 2022, 07:30 PM
Aug 2022

I AM SO FUCKING HAPPY!!!!

And I'm going to say this, go ahead & comment, & tell me if you agree or disagree...

According to some folks, Merrick Garland isn't doing anything, hasn't been doing anything. I'm REALLY FUCKING TIRED of Democrats who have NO FAITH in their fellow Democrats. If we're in a foxhole together I will have your back, to the death, & I want to know YOU have my back too, because that's what it takes for us to win & save American democracy.

BumRushDaShow

(128,905 posts)
71. LOL
Mon Aug 8, 2022, 07:51 PM
Aug 2022

He wasn't there. I don't think he stays there that much in summer. He's probably up in Jersey (if not on the road) at Bedminister.

BumRushDaShow

(128,905 posts)
84. They have to be pretty specific in the warrant
Mon Aug 8, 2022, 08:00 PM
Aug 2022

So it might happen at some point depending on what they were looking for.

I turned on the TV (MSNBC) and the pundits are suggesting maybe something to do with NARA and those 15 boxes of stuff that were taken (although i know supposedly the boxes were retrieved awhile ago although one wonders if some things were removed before being retrieved and they know that).

BumRushDaShow

(128,905 posts)
92. MSNBC
Mon Aug 8, 2022, 08:05 PM
Aug 2022

saying sources say this has to do with classified info taken and that the SS were notified ahead of time and provided access to the FBI.

45 is apparently in NYC right now.

BumRushDaShow

(128,905 posts)
111. Well that might be a separate issue
Mon Aug 8, 2022, 08:37 PM
Aug 2022

but what the pundits mentioned was that there was a SS team automatically assigned at every one of his residences and they have the direct access to each location, and would assist in securing the premise, including control of any onsite staff, etc, who might try to remove or tamper with anything.

BumRushDaShow

(128,905 posts)
121. Well we might not necessarily know that
Mon Aug 8, 2022, 08:55 PM
Aug 2022

as a federal "personnel issue". They could have been removed, reassigned, and replaced at those locations pending investigation.

SergeStorms

(19,199 posts)
136. My first thought as well.
Mon Aug 8, 2022, 09:21 PM
Aug 2022

His super loyalists would be with him in New York for the duration of his stay. Hopefully the SS on site aren't true Trumphumpers. 😬

SheltieLover

(57,073 posts)
137. Hopefully!
Mon Aug 8, 2022, 09:26 PM
Aug 2022

And I really hope DOJ can use any & all info found, not restricted to scope of warrant.

Not sure how that works. 🤞🤞🤞🤞🤞🤞🤞

ShazzieB

(16,389 posts)
168. Yes, MSNBC.
Tue Aug 9, 2022, 12:50 AM
Aug 2022

Rachel and Lawrence were both beside themselves with excitement! They were extra fun to watch tonight.

I don't think it really hit me just how much of a BFD this was until I saw their reactions.

Dark n Stormy Knight

(9,760 posts)
159. I can't help believing that the previous Commander-is-Thief has already sold access
Mon Aug 8, 2022, 11:03 PM
Aug 2022

to highly sensitive documents to our enemies. Great that this search & sieze has happened, but I just don't get why it didn't occur way before now.

BumRushDaShow

(128,905 posts)
161. As has been noted by multiple former DOJ pundits
Mon Aug 8, 2022, 11:18 PM
Aug 2022

they gotta have quite a specific description of what needed to be seized and that a simple subpoena would not be sufficient to potentially halt a crime-in-progress.

There was also one of them this evening, that suggested it could have been an "insider" who may have provided some info about what may have been at the premises (including what might have been in the safe).

I retired from an agency who used DOJ to do seizures for us and we had to work with our own agency lawyers and DOJ folks to list off which items needed to be seized and there would be a team going with U.S. Marshals and DOJ folks to execute the seizure.

Dark n Stormy Knight

(9,760 posts)
167. Will we ever even learn most of what was on that list? According to a few talking heads tonight,
Tue Aug 9, 2022, 12:46 AM
Aug 2022

some of the documents are so hot that it's considered necessary that the very existence of said papers must not even be publicly acknowledged.

BumRushDaShow

(128,905 posts)
177. I doubt it
Tue Aug 9, 2022, 04:58 AM
Aug 2022

except maybe items that may have been official gifts from other nations that are usually kept in storage and managed by a Curator (with some that might be have eventually kept/displayed by the Smithsonian), for example dinnerware/stemware or sculptures, or paintings, furniture, tapestries, etc.

There were AP images circulating of the move-out and some of the boxes and bins of stuff that had been taken that were mixed in with personal items -



Trump aides were worried about official White House gifts being mixed together with personal belongings in his rushed move-out from the White House, report says

Grace Panetta
Feb 9, 2022, 5:21 PM
Trump White House boxes final days Jan 2021

(snip)

The Post and The Times reported that some of the items in the boxes included letters to Trump from North Korean leader Kim Jong Un — which Trump described as beautiful "love letters," a note from former President Barack Obama, a map on which Trump drew with a Sharpie to mark a possible hurricane path to Alabama, and at least one piece of clothing. Gifts that made their way from the White House to Mar-a-Lago include a plaque and replica of a piece of the US-Mexico border wall, a signature Trump 2016 campaign pledge, which was previously displayed in the private dining room next to the Oval Office, the Post said. A miniature replica of Air Force One, decorated the way Trump wanted to repaint and redesign it, went from being displayed in the Oval Office to a prominent spot in Mar-a-Lago's lobby.

The Democratic leaders of two congressional committees, Rep. Carolyn Maloney and Sen. Gary Peters, have said they will open investigations of Trump's potential violations of federal records laws. The Archives has also asked the Department of Justice to investigate whether Trump broke the law in taking official White House items, the Post reported.

Representatives for Trump did not immediately return Insider's request for comment. The latest reporting isn't the first time the Trump administration has faced scrutiny over missing and undisclosed gifts. Politico reported in August 2021, for example, that over 20 types of gifts were missing from the State Department's gift vault after Trump left office.

The Department's internal watchdog is investigating, among other missing gifts, whether Trump political appointees stole gift bags intended for foreign attendees of the 2020 G7 summit, which was canceled due to the COVID-19 pandemic, upon leaving office The New York Times reported in October 2021. The White House also failed to disclose gifts of what appeared to be cheetah and tiger fur robes given to Trump by the Saudi Royal Family until Trump's last day in office, when the White House turned them over to the General Services Administration, The Times reported last year. The US Fish and Wildlife Service later determined the robes were not, in fact, made of real tiger or cheetah fur, but had been dyed.

(snip)

https://www.businessinsider.com/trump-aides-worried-of-gifts-being-packed-up-during-white-house-move-out-wapo-2022-2


The bolded parrt of the above may be what triggered what happened yesterday.

I would hazard to guess that actual documents might have been kept in the boxes except for a select few that criminals like Flynn would know what they represented, and much of the artifacts may have actually been displayed around the residence and might have been part of what were removed in the seizure.

It's entirely possible that many promo photos of the inside of the M-A-L resort, included views of rooms that contained items on display that were stolen at move-out (or even before), and those objects may have been included on the seizure list.

Pluvious

(4,310 posts)
53. Excellent thread explaining how the feds could get a warrant like this, and why Groper could be...
Mon Aug 8, 2022, 07:41 PM
Aug 2022

... in a world of trouble (we hope! )


Traildogbob

(8,731 posts)
63. To all the pundits
Mon Aug 8, 2022, 07:44 PM
Aug 2022

That are pushing horror of trump unleashing his militias after their outrage, I say this. Hell fire missiles with razor sharp detachable blades. Slice em up like gas station sushi. Terrorists. Treat em as such.

Warpy

(111,255 posts)
74. Why didn't he just open the fucking safe?
Mon Aug 8, 2022, 07:53 PM
Aug 2022

His petulance is costing him a new one.

I love how he's whining that they didn't give him adequate warning

He really is too stupid to know how anything works.

brooklynite

(94,520 posts)
78. But, but, but...Attorney General Garland is an institutionalist...
Mon Aug 8, 2022, 07:56 PM
Aug 2022

...who's being bribed, blackmailed or threatened. Or there was a deal cut with...somebody.

Rebl2

(13,498 posts)
79. A bit late
Mon Aug 8, 2022, 07:56 PM
Aug 2022

They should have done this a year and half ago. They should have searched everything that he was sending to FL before he left D.C.

ultralite001

(894 posts)
89. The RTumpster's Statement, in full...
Mon Aug 8, 2022, 08:02 PM
Aug 2022

posted on TMZ:

https://dam.tmz.com/document/fa/o/2022/08/08/fa547232b1ba4c278752aedfb2aa6c3e.pdf


"These are dark times for our nation, as my beautiful home Mar-A-Lago in Palm Beach, Florida"... yadda...
yadda... yadda...

Playing my tiny violin for ya, RTumpster...

[link:|]

BootinUp

(47,143 posts)
91. I've read his whiny statement 3 times
Mon Aug 8, 2022, 08:05 PM
Aug 2022

I start laughing every time. I think we need that impersonator guy who does tfg so well to read it.

AverageOldGuy

(1,523 posts)
95. If while executing a search warrant . . .
Mon Aug 8, 2022, 08:09 PM
Aug 2022

. . . an officer observes, lying in plain view, evidence of another crime not listed on the warrant, that object can be seized and used in another prosecution.

So -- I'm hoping that, while searching for classified documents, an FBI agent says "Hmmm. What's that white powder i the little cellophane baggie?" And every eye in the rom turns to Don Jr. !!!!!

Lasher

(27,579 posts)
100. Watching heads explode on Faux Noise
Mon Aug 8, 2022, 08:21 PM
Aug 2022

This is one of the rare times I tune in. It’s almost like being on another planet.

SpankMe

(2,957 posts)
107. My hopes aren't too high
Mon Aug 8, 2022, 08:31 PM
Aug 2022

This is probably an operation just to recover the classified docs he took and was just keeping in a closet somewhere instead of in a SCIF or some other classified storage. I bet it has nothing to do with the coup.

Fuck him.

hamsterjill

(15,220 posts)
109. Please let this be the start of what rids the world of this maggot!
Mon Aug 8, 2022, 08:36 PM
Aug 2022

I’m afraid to hope because my hopes have been dashed before.

Please let this be it!!! I want my life before this jerk back. I want peace. I want hope. I want justice!

Mysterian

(4,587 posts)
110. No one is above the law
Mon Aug 8, 2022, 08:36 PM
Aug 2022

Especially criminal fraudster ex-presidents.

What a disgrace to our country that shitheel Trump was president. I still find it difficult to fathom. The USA has a serious stupidity problem. Dumbasses willing to try a coup to install a make-up-splattered clown as president-for-life.

Jarqui

(10,123 posts)
117. I've seen some handwringing by Trump sympathizers claiming he's being martyred
Mon Aug 8, 2022, 08:48 PM
Aug 2022

What does an innocent person have to worry about from such a search warrant?

If Trump has obeyed the law (sorry for those who have to clean their screen ...), then this should be a non-event.

The pics of White House docs being flushed down White House toilets doesn't help his cause.
The hypocritical stomachs of the "lock her up!" crowd might be feeling like the septic area those documents were headed to.

I heard there may be dogs sniffing for thumb drives. If they scoop a bunch of data from those surrounding Trump, that could be big trouble for him.

BigmanPigman

(51,590 posts)
125. I didn't wake up until 3PM so this was the first news of the day
Mon Aug 8, 2022, 09:02 PM
Aug 2022

for me. What a fucking great way to get up and start your day and week.

tonekat

(1,814 posts)
131. Some talk of very highly classified material
Mon Aug 8, 2022, 09:16 PM
Aug 2022

Being taken to the Stain Palace.

He was probably trying to start a bidding war between Putin and Xi.

Wonder Why

(3,186 posts)
133. Oh, the horror! The Shame! Those evil FBI agents! What they did:
Mon Aug 8, 2022, 09:18 PM
Aug 2022
"they even broke into my safe." "My beautiful home, Mar-A-Lago in Palm Beach, Florida, is currently under siege, raided, and occupied by a large group of FBI agents," he said in a statement.

How could they be so nasty?

"After working and cooperating with the relevant Government agencies, this unannounced raid on my home was not necessary or appropriate," Trump said

Isn't that just evil? And after he was SO COOPERATIVE! We all know how many times he told his lawyers to give the government everything they asked for because he nothing to hide.

Well, nothing except
Being a traitor to his party, the American people, his country and the Constitution
Violating the Constitution and Oath of Office
Criminal actions
Sexual Predator
Attacking Secret Service agents
Instigating a riot
Defrauding banks and tax authorities
Using the government for personal gain
Bigotry
Hatemongering
Sleazy businessman
Corruption
Egotistic Maniac
Vindictive

and those are his GOOD points.

Good things come to nice guys. And this was SO GOOD!

BootinUp

(47,143 posts)
138. The raid of Mar-a-Lago was a beautiful raid.
Mon Aug 8, 2022, 09:26 PM
Aug 2022

John Scott-Railton
@jsrailton
The raid of Mar-a-Lago was a beautiful raid. Maybe the greatest.

A very big-league raid.

It's True!
4:07 PM · Aug 8, 2022·Twitter Web App


?s=20&t=rs7A2D_Mlux52JY9oNGR-A

G2theD

(593 posts)
153. I switched to Hannity to see what they were saying
Mon Aug 8, 2022, 10:08 PM
Aug 2022

Of course they were riling up the base with blatant lies. I think there will be violence soon.
Newt Gingrich was his guest and he was lying to the base too. If you didn’t know better, you would think when Biden took over the entire FBI was replaced with Democrats bent on getting Trump by any means, illegal or not.

It was sickening because their clueless ignorant base is going to go nuts over this. Any blood shed is on their hands.

EndlessWire

(6,522 posts)
155. Where are the pictures?
Mon Aug 8, 2022, 10:26 PM
Aug 2022

I wanted a picture of a bunch of cop cars outside the door so I could enlarge it and pin it up on my wall.

I appreciate the fact that someone, somewhere, is sticking up for We the People after the Orange Turd STOLE our property.

Some reporter somewhere is working on getting a copy of the search warrant to tell us exactly what they are after. I apologize, but I already know that I'm going to hell, so, I wish they would toss every inch of the humongous "beautiful home."

And, I can't help but note that there is a comparison between the invasion of the Capitol grounds and the raid of Mar a Lago. Sweet revenge.

How is it that Trump knew they got into his safe, if he wasn't there? Don't they usually make everyone stand outside, or something? I guess an employee called...wonder where Melania is...

Kablooie

(18,632 posts)
173. It's just over 90 days till the election...
Tue Aug 9, 2022, 03:37 AM
Aug 2022

And the DOJ has a policy not to do anything that could affect an election 90 days before so that’s probably why it happened right now.
The DOJ will be quiet until the election is over but afterwards it could get FUN!

BumRushDaShow

(128,905 posts)
178. "over 90 days till the election...DOJ has a policy not to do anything that could affect an election"
Tue Aug 9, 2022, 05:19 AM
Aug 2022

Apparently these OLC memos were drafted during and in reference to Presidential elections years.

2022 is NOT a Presidential election year and when it comes to criminal proceedings, they are expected to be "quiet" because the statute requires it - particularly when it comes to grand juries.

onetexan

(13,040 posts)
179. Mccarthy is threatening to investigate AG Merrick Garland if the Rethugs win the House @midterms
Tue Aug 9, 2022, 06:09 AM
Aug 2022
https://www.salon.com/2022/08/09/kevin-mccarthy-lashes-out-after-raid-vows-to-target-merrick-garland-if-win-midterms_partner/

"When Republicans take back the House, we will conduct immediate oversight of this department, follow the facts, and leave no stone unturned," McCarthy said in a statement.
_______________________________________

Sounds like a threat to me. Maybe Mccarthy should be investigated.


Novara

(5,841 posts)
180. My first take: CLASSIFIED DOCUMENTS ARE MISSING
Tue Aug 9, 2022, 06:41 AM
Aug 2022

They've been going through the boxes he returned and classified documents must be missig for them to go looking for them.

I'll bet he sold them to the highest bidder.

moonshinegnomie

(2,443 posts)
183. it would be a shame if people started trolling the far right over this
Tue Aug 9, 2022, 08:52 AM
Aug 2022

start spreading rumors that desantis was in on the raid....

sheilahi

(277 posts)
185. Alright Donny, what did you do with the ferris wheel?
Tue Aug 9, 2022, 09:22 AM
Aug 2022

"My beautiful home in Mar-a-Lago is under siege". His "beautiful home"? Give me a break! Until I saw the news footage of the raid, I wasn't aware he lived at Neverland. Did Michael give you a good deal?

msfiddlestix

(7,281 posts)
192. What are the odds that any single document is found at Magalardo palace?
Tue Aug 9, 2022, 10:41 AM
Aug 2022

What are the odds after over a year and a half, any incriminating evidence would not have been sold, hidden or destroyed?

What are the odds that someone like Hannity, or confidante tied to the DOJ for instance, didn't counsel and provide him with assistance months ago, or even as recent as last week?

We've all read about stupid thieves leaving identitifying information at the scene of the crime, but this case has nearly two years heads up that was a likely event. Precious time to sell, hide and destroy.

I would be shocked if this raid at this location produced much of any value.

My reality check says, if we're banking on anything found at the florida fun house, we'll likely be quite disappointed.








BumRushDaShow

(128,905 posts)
199. I expect most of it he had no clue what it was
Tue Aug 9, 2022, 11:33 AM
Aug 2022

because he had "people" (including "The Generals®" ) who managed it, as well as the revolving door CoS's (Priebus, Kelly, Mulvaney, Meadows), the cabinet, the NSC people (like Flynn early on), Jarvanka, etc., and the various West Wing aides.

msfiddlestix

(7,281 posts)
200. I just now read about the Fortified Bunkers underneath
Tue Aug 9, 2022, 11:57 AM
Aug 2022

the estate. Bomb Shelters, fortified in concrete and steel and used for storage, currently functioning offices etc.
that's a factor I had not previously known. The Bomb Shelters (more than one, and other florida and ny properties) changes the possibilities in my mind.. potentially.

https://www.palmbeachpost.com/story/news/local/2017/08/10/little-known-feature-trump-s/7803682007/

Shoonra

(521 posts)
198. "Under siege, raided, and occupied"
Tue Aug 9, 2022, 11:22 AM
Aug 2022

"My beautiful home, Mar-A-Lago in Palm Beach, Florida, is currently under siege, raided, and occupied by a large group..."

Pretty much describes the "ordinary tourist day" at the Capitol on Jan 6th.

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