Secret Service held onto Pelosi threat until after insurrection
Source: CREW
The Secret Service knew of a threat to Nancy Pelosi on January 6th days before the insurrection, but did not pass it along until hours after the Capitol had been breached, according to Secret Service emails obtained by CREW.
On January 4, Secret Service agents discovered a Parler account, which weve chosen not to name, posting a series of violent threats towards lawmakers. Other profiles with the same name appeared on Twitter, MeWe, Bitchute, Youtube and Facebook.
On December 31, the account posted, January 6 starts #1776 all over again
Fight for EVERYTHING and listed Enemies, including Pelosi. At 5:55 pm on January 6, after hours of defending the United States Capitol from a violent mob, the United States Capitol Police received the post along with a message from the Secret Service:
Good afternoon, The US Secret Service is passing notification to the US Capitol Police regarding discovery of a social media threat directed toward Speaker Nancy Pelosi.
The language used by the account, as weve now seen repeated in recordings released by the January 6th Committee, is a clear call for a violent overthrow of the American government on January 6, 2021.
Read more: https://www.citizensforethics.org/reports-investigations/crew-investigations/secret-service-held-onto-pelosi-threat-until-after-insurrection/
CentralMass
(16,993 posts)Wicked Blue
(8,970 posts)And heads have to roll.
DENVERPOPS
(13,003 posts)they have no idea how far the Secret Service, DOJ, FBI Capitol Police, DC Police, National Guards, Military commanders and including the entire Military, etc etc etc have been infiltrated.....Absolutely no idea......
"All standing back and standing by" per Trump
Quanto Magnus
(1,363 posts)to say the same exact thing!
cheers!
ificandream
(11,846 posts)Lasher
(29,633 posts)ret5hd
(22,536 posts)The action being to purposefully withhold/conceal information that was vital to the welfare of the nation.
I wonder if there is a word for that?
Submariner
(13,402 posts)screened and approved based on loyalty, including hating who and what he hates.
He had super loyal Reichstag style SS being him at every turn loving his autocracy.
Scalded Nun
(1,721 posts)I have personally thought since TFG left that the entire house needs to be leveled and rebuilt. Even then there are risks, but for now I do not so how a single SS agent can be trusted. I am sure that is unfair to the dedicated ones, but how much risk can you accept when dealing with the security of this country and its leaders.
I would not be surprised if SS agents helped carry those documents to Mar-A-Lago (and maybe even helped pick out the good docs).
Novara
(6,115 posts)Communications obtained by Citizens for Responsibility and Ethics in Washington show that in the days before January 6, 2021, the Secret Service and other law enforcement agencies were concerned that Donald Trump supporters planned to bring weapons to the U.S. Capitol with the intention of causing violence. But the watchdog group said the agency did not appear to take the threat seriously.
Its gonna get violent as we charge the federal buildings and drag out corrupt politicians dead or alive! read one post shared with the Secret Services and other agencies before the insurrection, while another clearly specified their chief target: F*ck pence sellout traitor we better see him coming out that building in handcuffs or were [sic] going in.
snip.............
Yeah, we know why.
Turbineguy
(40,166 posts)it was nice if they did what they needed to do, without being told.
Trump seems to have that relationship with the Secret Service.
Novara
(6,115 posts)niyad
(133,513 posts)Cozmo
(1,402 posts)They got a bunch of fascists in that group. I just hope Biden and family are safe with these people.
forgotmylogin
(7,963 posts)The Secret Service likely got all kinds of Intel and chatter about angry people saying all kinds of things about what might happen that day and could have been constructively hoping and expecting the event wouldn't be more than a demonstration/protest on the steps with signs and yelling. Once the Capitol was breached, they warned Pelosi.
Is it possible they didn't want to concern her until there was actual physical danger? Especially if they were expecting the crowd would be controlled and there wouldn't be any contact between congress and demonstrators?
The Capitol on regular days is quite secure, so they may not have had reason for specific alarm about Pelosi or anyone's physical safety until the doors were breached.
Novara
(6,115 posts)It's clear they weren't operating in good faith.
forgotmylogin
(7,963 posts)And likely there would be texts saying "Let's not involve the Speaker unless conditions actually become hazardous."
Novara
(6,115 posts)But now we know they were warned of specific threats and they did nothing, so the missing texts are more ominous.
EndlessWire
(8,103 posts)She should have been notified and hustled to the safe spot as soon as they started up the steps. The presumption that the crowd would be controlled was a big raspberry at that point. This was not an ordinary event, and somebody dropped the ball here.
yardwork
(69,513 posts)There's a standard protocol for reporting serious threats directed at leaders. The Secret Service is responsible for maintaining that protocol.
This is profoundly troubling. If we can't trust the Secret Service, who can we trust?
JustAnotherGen
(38,085 posts)Processed and was required to act upon that intelligence -
Needs to be fired by 5 PM today.
LiberalLovinLug
(14,731 posts)Is it an internal advancement? Regardless of who is President? Or does the President himself....and others that use the SS for protection....get to chose from a selection? Where they get to ask them all kinds of personal questions, including what party they vote for? And beyond that...even to filter the more radical supporters to serve for them?
Even to replace the director of the SS so that he also will only advance the agents that are MAGAts, for instance?
ancianita
(43,314 posts)Know that Obama, Trump and Biden -- as probably most other presidents -- chose their own protection details. Now President Biden has chosen the same team he'd had under Obama.
Here are locations for their training, with the first being specialized training for the White House
ERT Emergency Response Team -- specialized training out of Fort Carson, CO -- for WH president and VP protectees
FLETC Federal Law Enforcement Training Center, in Glencoe, GA, first leg of all SS training
LiberalLovinLug
(14,731 posts)GreenWave
(12,725 posts)Had a death weapon that did not just stun, it could kill. Why isn't he locked up for bringing a deadly stun gun into her office? He didn't bring it along as a backscratcher.
judesedit
(4,600 posts)is determined - innocent or complicit. Hard to imagine any of them are innocent, though, imho
irisblue
(37,703 posts)succession coverage list
Order of Presidential Succession
Vice President. Speaker of the House. President Pro Tempore of the Senate. Secretary of State
source-https://www.usa.gov/presidents
From the Secret Service website
https://www.secretservice.gov/about/faq/general
snip"Who is the Secret Service authorized to protect?
By law, the Secret Service is authorized to protect:
The president, the vice president, (or other individuals next in order of succession to the Office of the President), the president-elect and vice president-elect
The immediate families of the above individuals
Former presidents, their spouses, except when the spouse re-marries
Children of former presidents until age 16
Visiting heads of foreign states or governments and their spouses traveling with them, other distinguished foreign visitors to the United States, and official representatives of the United States performing special missions abroad
Major presidential and vice presidential candidates, and their spouses within 120 days of a general presidential election
Other individuals as designated per Executive Order of the President and
National Special Security Events, when designated as such by the Secretary of the Department of Homeland Security
to quote Mal Reynolds 'Huh'
irisblue
(37,703 posts)Source-https://vtdigger.org/2022/01/06/on-senate-floor-leahy-recalls-shock-of-jan-6-attack-says-trump-must-be-held-accountable/
snip-Leahy recalled seeing a man standing several feet away from him wearing a vest that read police and holding a submachine gun. The senator had never seen anything like that in the legislative chamber before, he said.
As police ushered lawmakers into a secure area, Leahy said one officer grabbed his arm and said, Were going to watch out for you, Shamrock.
That line stuck with him because Shamrock was the code name police gave him when he was sent a letter containing anthrax during an attack in 2001, he said."
more there.
24601
(4,146 posts)Novara
(6,115 posts)The SS, having received a threat to the Speaker, needed to pass this information on to the Capitol police, whose job it is to keep the Speaker and all other congresspeople safe. They did not do that.
irisblue
(37,703 posts)I was also suprised to learn that the Sec Service did NOT cover the 3rd & 4th successors.
When I learned that the SecService does not cover those, I thought to share that info with other DUers.
Novara
(6,115 posts)Lots of people assume the SS should also protect the Speaker.
Their job here was to inform those who do protect her and they did not do that. The entire department needs to be cleaned out top to bottom.
bringthePaine
(1,806 posts)iluvtennis
(21,516 posts)LetMyPeopleVote
(181,155 posts)This is disturbing
Link to tweet
https://www.citizensforethics.org/reports-investigations/crew-investigations/secret-service-held-onto-pelosi-threat-until-after-insurrection/
On January 4, Secret Service agents discovered a Parler account, which weve chosen not to name, posting a series of violent threats towards lawmakers. Other profiles with the same name appeared on Twitter, MeWe, Bitchute, Youtube and Facebook.
On December 31, the account posted, January 6 starts #1776 all over again Fight for EVERYTHING and listed Enemies, including Pelosi. At 5:55 pm on January 6, after hours of defending the United States Capitol from a violent mob, the United States Capitol Police received the post along with a message from the Secret Service:
Good afternoon, The US Secret Service is passing notification to the US Capitol Police regarding discovery of a social media threat directed toward Speaker Nancy Pelosi.
The language used by the account, as weve now seen repeated in recordings released by the January 6th Committee, is a clear call for a violent overthrow of the American government on January 6, 2021.
liberal N proud
(61,202 posts)Something is rotten
padah513
(2,711 posts)Somebody will tell you everything you need to know
2naSalit
(103,739 posts)NBachers
(19,534 posts)SleeplessinSoCal
(10,433 posts)Police, military, FBI, etc. By making this a priority, it will also expose the dangers without even naming TFG. He will just be stripped of his muscle. AND we will all rest easier knowing that our security is actually pro Constitution. And democracy.
The other challenge is in taking back democracy as an ideal that is at the heart of our republic.
hamsterjill
(17,707 posts)They seem to be Trumpers in my view when they are supposed to be neutral.
Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin
(136,712 posts)A former U.S. Attorney is calling for a full investigation into the U.S. Secret Services failure to share intelligence it had detailing a violent threat against Speaker of the House Nancy Pelosi and other top Democrats.
This is deeply disturbing, says Joyce Vance, who is now a law professor and MSNBC/NBC News legal analyst. She says it requires a full investigation.
The Capitol Police are responsible for protecting the Speaker, Vance continues. If true that the U.S. Secret Service failed to pass on intelligence about threats, thats very alarming.
Vance points to a new report from Citizens for Responsibility and Ethics in Washington (CREW) that finds the Secret Service discovered a violent social media based threat on January 4, 2021, two days before the insurrection, but did not share that intelligence with the Capitol Police until nearly 6 PM ET on January 6.
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/former-us-attorney-calls-for-full-investigation-after-report-secret-service-failed-to-share-pelosi-threat/ar-AA10LWSU
Kid Berwyn
(24,837 posts)The mob knew where to look.
Offices were missing emergency panic buttons.
Democratic leaders were targeted for violence.
Those charged with their protection did nothing.
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Dyedinthewoolliberal
(16,225 posts)we'll find? I predict DJT..............