Jan. 6 Grand Jury Has Subpoenaed White House Documents
Source: New York Times
The subpoena, issued to the National Archives in May, made a sweeping demand for all materials, in whatever form that the archives had given to the Jan. 6 House committee. Those materials included records from the files of Mr. Trumps top aides, his daily schedule and phone logs and a draft text of the presidents speech that preceded the riot.
It was signed by Thomas P. Windom, the federal prosecutor who has been leading the Justice Departments wide-ranging inquiry into what part Mr. Trump and his allies may have played in various schemes to maintain power after the former presidents defeat in the 2020 election chief among them a plan to submit fake slates of pro-Trump electors in states actually won by Joseph R. Biden Jr.
The subpoena was not related to a separate investigation into Mr. Trumps retention and handling of classified documents that were removed from the White House at the end of his tenure and taken to Mar-a-Lago, his private club and residence in Palm Beach, Fla. That inquiry led this month to a court-approved search of Mar-a-Lago during which federal agents carted off several boxes of sensitive materials.
Read more: https://www.nytimes.com/2022/08/17/us/politics/jan-6-grand-jury-subpoena.html
gab13by13
(21,337 posts)Is this just an easier way for DOJ to get documents that the J6 committee had months ago?
Is DOJ trying to play catch up?
The pyramid-style investigation didn't work, there isn't enough time.
Justice matters.
(6,928 posts)before presenting their case(s) to the Grand Jury where simple-majority vote(s) -- 50% +1 -- will suffice to return indictment(s).
Plenty of time left. Gotta do it perfectly. Running for 2024 will not shield anyone.
gab13by13
(21,337 posts)It will take 3 years for a Trump trial.
Letitia and Fani are farther along and even those prosecutions will take time.
TeamProg
(6,129 posts)Botany
(70,504 posts)thomski64
(454 posts)...poison ivy come a creepin around..
NoMoreRepugs
(9,423 posts)Peel away a couple 2-3% of the Republican vote, gain 2-3% of the Independents and get another 2-3% of Democrats to turn out and you have a fucking tidal wave.
StrkSrviver
(85 posts)☝☝☝
Grins
(7,217 posts)Why always a step behind?
gab13by13
(21,337 posts)Last edited Thu Aug 18, 2022, 08:21 AM - Edit history (1)
They are 1 giant step behind.
The DOJ pyramid prosecution was a huge mistake because of time constraints.
With that said, I am speaking about the insurrection crimes, the coup crimes. I have my doubts that Trump will ever be indicted for his role in the insurrection. I do think that DOJ should indict Trump for the classified document scandal. Think about this; Trump had classified documents for 18 months at Mar-el-Loco and DOJ finally took the case when the National Archives issued it a criminal referral. Every good prosecutor who I have listened to on TV has said the same thing, the sooner the investigation the better for the prosecution. The longer one waits to investigate hampers the investigation because memories fade, evidence gets destroyed or hidden, criminals have time to get their story straight, the statute of limitations comes into play.
My hopes for DOJ prosecuting Trump lies with the classified documents scandal, and it is no sure thing that DOJ will prosecute Trump for that, DOJ may feel good enough that it just got back "most' of the documents. I didn't just think this way on my own, I heard other prosecutors say the same thing.
Learning that DOJ is subpoenaing the same documents that the J6 committee got a year ago is encouraging but it's Steve Kornacki time now until the election. I feel that DOJ should not pause any investigation or prosecution for anyone who is not on the November ballot, it involves our national security.
msfiddlestix
(7,282 posts)Evolve Dammit
(16,728 posts)Evolve Dammit
(16,728 posts)physically and mentally.
gab13by13
(21,337 posts)he just came out and suggested that Trump took the classified documents as an insurance policy. Cohen said that if Trump was arrested that he would threaten to release classified documents to foreign countries. I understand Cohen's newly found hatred for Trump, but what he opines is believable.
ultralite001
(894 posts)So TFG is never able to run for public office again
That is all