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BumRushDaShow

(129,873 posts)
Thu Aug 18, 2022, 09:24 AM Aug 2022

Scientists discover a 5-mile wide undersea crater created as the dinosaurs disappeared

Source: CNN

Updated 8:30 AM ET, Thu August 18, 2022

(CNN) An asteroid from space slammed into the Earth's surface 66 million years ago, leaving a massive crater underneath the sea and wreaking havoc with the planet. No, it's not that asteroid, the one that doomed the dinosaurs to extinction, but a previously unknown crater 248 miles off the coast of West Africa that was created right around the same time. Further study of the Nadir crater, as it's called, could shake up what we know about that cataclysmic moment in natural history.

Uisdean Nicholson, an assistant professor at Heriot-Watt University in Edinburgh, happened on the crater by accident -- he was reviewing seismic survey data for another project on the tectonic split between South America and Africa and found evidence of the crater beneath 400 meters of seabed sediment. "While interpreting the data, I (came) across this very unusual crater-like feature, unlike anything I had ever seen before," he said. "It had all the characteristics of an impact crater."

To be absolutely certain the crater was caused by an asteroid strike, he said that it would be necessary to drill into the the crater and test minerals from the crater floor. But it has all the hallmarks scientists would expect: the right ratio of crater width to depth, the height of the rims, and the height of the central uplift -- a mound in the center created by rock and sediment forced up by the shock pressure. The journal [link:http://www.science.org/doi/10.1126/sciadv.abn3096Science Advances published the study] on Thursday.

"The discovery of a terrestrial impact crater is always significant, because they are very rare in the geologic record. There are fewer than 200 confirmed impact structures on Earth and quite a few likely candidates that haven't yet been unequivocally confirmed," said Mark Boslough, a research professor in Earth and Planetary Sciences at the University of New Mexico. He was not involved in this research but agreed that it was probably caused by an asteroid.

Read more: https://www.cnn.com/2022/08/17/africa/asteroid-crater-west-africa-scn/index.html



This is an interesting find as it suggests there are probably more impact craters - perhaps having happened all around the same time.

From the article -


A diagram, incorporating seismic observations and computer simulations, of how the Nadir Crater formed.
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Scientists discover a 5-mile wide undersea crater created as the dinosaurs disappeared (Original Post) BumRushDaShow Aug 2022 OP
Large Scale dinosaurs were well on their way to extinction before these roids came. GreenWave Aug 2022 #1
How could this have happened 66 million years ago SouthernDem4ever Aug 2022 #2
Satan made the crater looks like it's 66 million years old. JustABozoOnThisBus Aug 2022 #3
Satan has a woodworking shed that makes Bob Vila envious. Probatim Aug 2022 #11
Anything that inspires a deadly sin is great! Envy is good. JustABozoOnThisBus Aug 2022 #15
Seriously, right? hamsterjill Aug 2022 #5
There's a ready answer for such inquiries. Harker Aug 2022 #7
So there were 2 impacts about same time? Fullduplexxx Aug 2022 #4
Roughly GB_RN Aug 2022 #9
Current uncertainty is plus or minus a million years muriel_volestrangler Aug 2022 #23
Scientists discovered smaller impacts in the northern Scandanavian countries Marthe48 Aug 2022 #21
Thanks.. 12kya I wonder what the effect of that was on water levels Fullduplexxx Aug 2022 #22
The hypothesis thought it'd be a lot of water fast Marthe48 Aug 2022 #27
World wide flood? Fullduplexxx Aug 2022 #29
I don't know Marthe48 Aug 2022 #30
I've Read About The Glacier Impact Hypothesis... GB_RN Aug 2022 #25
I think what they are saying is they think there were many around that time. Earth-shine Aug 2022 #31
Meteor Crater In Arizona Is 1 Mile Wide... GB_RN Aug 2022 #6
Arizona ThoughtCriminal Aug 2022 #24
You Are Correct... GB_RN Aug 2022 #26
The OP Didn't Mention P-Nutt Aug 2022 #8
Shows what you know - it was Brontosaurus burgers. Probatim Aug 2022 #12
... BumRushDaShow Aug 2022 #17
So it seems like there was more than one reason Farmer-Rick Aug 2022 #10
The dinosaurs were smoking next to the ammo dump Jerry2144 Aug 2022 #13
Proof central scrutinizer Aug 2022 #16
One of my favorites. Thanks. NT mahatmakanejeeves Aug 2022 #18
Sure as shootin' there's a rock out there with... LudwigPastorius Aug 2022 #14
DART - Double Asteroid Redirection Test reACTIONary Aug 2022 #32
May have been the same event Metaphorical Aug 2022 #19
We miss all the good stuff. JohnnyRingo Aug 2022 #20
Probably wouldn't live to tell about it Marthe48 Aug 2022 #28
Certainly wouldn't be talking about it today . . . Journeyman Aug 2022 #33

GreenWave

(6,796 posts)
1. Large Scale dinosaurs were well on their way to extinction before these roids came.
Thu Aug 18, 2022, 09:33 AM
Aug 2022

Astronomers and geologists should stop hogging the dinosaur experts' spotlight.

Also birds are mainly dinosaurs, so how to account for that? Mountains, caves, etc,

Harker

(14,069 posts)
7. There's a ready answer for such inquiries.
Thu Aug 18, 2022, 10:09 AM
Aug 2022

Of course, "god" created the fossil record, and those pesky geological formations to test the faith of mere mortals.

I guess if one removes 'faith' from the equation, the evidence against the biblical version of history is pretty damning.

GB_RN

(2,397 posts)
9. Roughly
Thu Aug 18, 2022, 10:12 AM
Aug 2022

When you're talking that kind of time frame, they could have actually been separated by a few thousand/tens of thousands of years and it's not a difference that's noticeable in the dating, from what I can tell.

Marthe48

(17,086 posts)
21. Scientists discovered smaller impacts in the northern Scandanavian countries
Thu Aug 18, 2022, 11:58 AM
Aug 2022

that indicated a series of strikes from asteroids, or an asteroid, much like the hit on Jupiter many yearsago. I read it so long ago, I can't remember much.

Also, a Kent State U. (OHIO) geoplogy student or geologist theorises that a series of asteroids struck the glacier cover up north and caused intense, sudden melting. Maybe around 12,000 years ago. Again, I can't remember the details, but the idea was controversial, mainly because the glaciers took the impact, so there are no craters.

Until about 1962, scientists didn't think asteroids hit the Earth. Then, they figured out that yes, they could! I think Schumaker or Levy devoted his life to locating meteor craters on Earth. His work was ridicled, too, but he was proven right. There was a world map on line that had locations of known meteorite strikes. Interesting!

Sorry I can't be more definite. It hasn't been 66 million years since I read those findings, but has been awhile

Marthe48

(17,086 posts)
27. The hypothesis thought it'd be a lot of water fast
Thu Aug 18, 2022, 01:44 PM
Aug 2022

I think they were looking for geologic proof in the central states.

Marthe48

(17,086 posts)
30. I don't know
Thu Aug 18, 2022, 03:45 PM
Aug 2022

So many cultures who don't seem to have known about each other have flood stories. Maybe a lot of regional floods happened close in time.

GB_RN

(2,397 posts)
25. I've Read About The Glacier Impact Hypothesis...
Thu Aug 18, 2022, 12:28 PM
Aug 2022

It’s interesting, if not necessarily testable and provable with evidence.

Schumaker got his start on impact research looking at shocked quartz from the nuclear bomb testing sites in Nevada. He found the same shocked quartz at Meteor Crater in Arizona, and off he went…

GB_RN

(2,397 posts)
6. Meteor Crater In Arizona Is 1 Mile Wide...
Thu Aug 18, 2022, 10:09 AM
Aug 2022

Last edited Thu Aug 18, 2022, 12:30 PM - Edit history (1)

And the impactor is estimated to have been 50m (160 feet) wide. If that scales linearly, then this bad boy would have been about 250m (800 feet) wide. However, I would assume that doesn't actually scale linearly due to speed, angle of impact, impactor composition, etc. I'm not a physicist, much less an astrophysicist, and don't pretend to be. Just fascinated by astrophysics and stuff like this.

Edited to fix location in headline.

P-Nutt

(59 posts)
8. The OP Didn't Mention
Thu Aug 18, 2022, 10:11 AM
Aug 2022

Fred, Wilma, Pebbles, Barney, Betty, or Bamm-Bamm. I wonder if they managed to survive without any more pterodactyl burgers? Some of the facts of history that scientists just choose to gloss over.

Probatim

(2,550 posts)
12. Shows what you know - it was Brontosaurus burgers.
Thu Aug 18, 2022, 10:25 AM
Aug 2022

If you can't get the terms straight, stay out of the argument!



(I think that's a good parody of gun rights folks.)

Farmer-Rick

(10,225 posts)
10. So it seems like there was more than one reason
Thu Aug 18, 2022, 10:21 AM
Aug 2022

For the giant dinosaurs to go extinct.

My father always believed that the dinosaurs, lacking 2 stomachs, couldn't eat grass which was becoming a major fauna. Though a lot of dinosaurs had gizzards and swallowed rocks to grind up their food. So, not so sure about his theory.

I read a paper that theorized that the mosquitoes and biting insects that had recently evolved may have passed around some really deadly diseases to dinosaurs, which added to their demise.

It's a fascinating subject. But we can all agree the extra asteroid crashing into the earth at around that time, did not help the giant dinosaurs.

LudwigPastorius

(9,222 posts)
14. Sure as shootin' there's a rock out there with...
Thu Aug 18, 2022, 10:33 AM
Aug 2022

our name on it. Could be tomorrow, could be 10,000 years from now, but it will happen.

Survival as a species requires that we don’t have all of our eggs in one basket.

Metaphorical

(1,604 posts)
19. May have been the same event
Thu Aug 18, 2022, 11:31 AM
Aug 2022

Comets and asteroids are frequently irregularly shaped. Once they approach close enough to become meteors, they hit the Roche limit of the Earth and break apart. At the right angle (and the location is right for that) part of that initial meteor could easily travel the two to three thousand miles and land within seconds of the one off the Mexican peninsula. It's actually far more likely than two unrelated extinction level meteors hitting within a few thousand years of one another.

Journeyman

(15,042 posts)
33. Certainly wouldn't be talking about it today . . .
Sun Aug 21, 2022, 04:29 PM
Aug 2022

well, I'm reasonably certain. Don't really know how old my neighbors are.

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