Russians blame Ukrainian woman for car bomb near Moscow that killed Putin ally

[Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin]

Source: USA Today

The car bomb that killed hardline TV commentator Daria Dugina near Moscow was the work of a Ukrainian woman who fled to Estonia after the blast, state-run Russian news agencies reported Monday.

"The crime was prepared and committed by the Ukrainian special services," Tass said in a Telegram post Monday.

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Russian security services said suspect Natalia Vovk arrived in Moscow a month ago with her daughter and rented an apartment in the building Dugina lived in. On the day of the blast, Vovk and Shaban attended the literary and music festival Tradition, where Dugina was an honorary guest. After the remote-controlled explosion, Vovk and her daughter fled through the Pskov Region to Estonia, the security services said.

Saturday was Estonia's Restoration of Independence Day, marking 31 years since the end of Russia's occupation of the nation of 1.3 million people.

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So are you going to invade Estonia now? You must love getting your collective asses kicked.

[SouthernDem4ever]

1. so did Russians forget they started an unprovoked war?

And slaughtered thousands of men, women and children? Did they forget all that? Assholes

[Chainfire]

2. Russians brought the war to Ukraine

I am surprised that the Ukrainians have not brought more war to Moscow.

It is very convenient that the "Ukrainian woman" escaped. The Moscow propaganda is trying to kill two birds with one stone.

[gab13by13]

3. I call bullshit,

Ukraine had nothing to gain from killing her or her dad, but Putin did.

[brush]

6. I'm with you. It's not very likely that the accused and her child managed to get an......

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apartment in Dugina's building, acquire bomb making materials in Moscow without arousing suspicion, accessed Dugina's car, plant a bomb under it and then escape the country with her child...all undetected.

Please. The Russians actually expect us to believe that BS? No way. More likely the bomb was meant for Dugin himself who advocated for the Ukraine war, and at Putin in protest against the war.

IMO more anti-war moves will be make as many Russians, including higher-ups, have to be displeased with the war and Putin's and the military's bungling of it.

Putin should watch his back.

[MarineCombatEngineer]

12. ....

Please. The Russians actually expect us to believe that?

No, they don't expect us to believe that, it's geared towards the Russian people to shore up flagging support for the war.
What better way to do that then to film the grieving father calling for more strikes on Ukraine?

This smells of an FSB op.

[brush]

16. Agreed on FSB. But even expecting Russians to believe that BS...

is a reach as more and more Russians are against the war.

[MarineCombatEngineer]

18. The younger generation won't believe it

but the older gen will, but, you're right, there is a growing backlash among the Russian population that can't be contained forever, this isn't the days of the Cold War when the Soviet Union could control the media and dissidents.

I think Russia is on the verge of a change, but what change is yet to see.

[brush]

23. With social media no government can control the info their population...

gets entirely anymore. The same goes here as disinformation from social medai is why magats are still enthralled by trumps bullshit.

[barbtries]

8. how so?

i'm being sincere. I thought it was probably a putin hit right off the bat, because everyone knows he loves killing people. But I thought his preferred methods were poison and defenestration, plus the victim and the supposed intended victim are both hardliners. Why would putin want to kill them?

[MarineCombatEngineer]

11. Killing the daughter of a prominent Russian hardliner,

while at the same time filming his grief is a classic KGB/FSB op.

Don't you find it a little suspicious that he decided at the last minute to ride in a different car?

The pictures of the grieving father calling for retaliatory strikes on Ukraine is the perfect propaganda to shore up lagging support for the war.

[LiberalLovinLug]

14. For propaganda purposes

So he could have headlines screaming about the ruthless Ukraine Nazis attacking the Motherland! That if he hadn't started the Special Operation to DeNazify Ukraine, there would be even more of these attacks. Attacking these beloved patriotic Russians, an artist even if they had gotten her father. To show how dangerous they were and how justified he has been in defending them against Western / Nazi threats. Which somehow are fighting them in unison.

And if he had used poison, everyone would have known it was him.

[barbtries]

15. okay.

i wonder if we will ever know for sure. I could definitely see it being a Ukrainian operation as well. All's fair and all that, and putin brought on this war with no good reason at all.

[LiberalLovinLug]

20. But you have to ask yourself why would Zelensky do that?

It doesn't push Russian soldiers back one inch.
It doesn't make Ukrainians want to fight for their country any more than they already are.
It doesn't garner any support from peace loving Russians in Russia who may be doubting Putin


It supports his State TV reports of how ruthless and evil the Ukraine Nazis are.
It helps to increase the enlistment
It makes Putin, and those closest to him, as being in danger, to garner sympathy.
It creates a feeling of vulnerability to Moscow residents, and only he can stop these kinds of threats to them by destroying the source of the threats.

[barbtries]

21. true. nt

[brush]

24. Dugin and Dugina are/were in the Putin camp so I don't think...

it was him. I do however think it came from anti-war, anti-Putin Russians as the war is increasingly unpopular.

IMO the Ukrainians had no incentive to do that, especially in the dramatic, super specail, super agent, James Bondian way the FSB described it in blaming Ukraine.

[barbtries]

25. another valid theory.

I don't think we'll ever know anything other than no great loss.

[spudspud]

19. Putin loves false flag operations. Remember the apartment bombings in 1999? /nt

[IronLionZion]

4. Estonia is a full NATO member

Putin would get his ass kicked to the curb if he invaded them like Ukraine.

[Botany]

5. Daria Dugina is now dead and that is good.

I will save my pity for this Ukrainian woman who was fleeing the Russians with her dog and a few of her goods.

[ck4829]

7. This sounds more like the doing of the FSB

[oldsoftie]

9. Yeah, she snuck in, killed her, snuck out to Estonia; and left her full military ID card.

Riiiiiight

[ck4829]

10. She left video evidence and she even called up the FSB and said "I did it!"

But the FSB said they forgot to record that.

Wait for it...

[Igel]

26. Somebody in the FSB has a sense of humor.

And a bit of subversiveness.

Natalia Vovk, née Shaban.

"Vovk" means "wolf."

"Shaban" is Arabic in origin, and means separation.

A Wolf, originally named Separation, went to Russia to kill somebody against Ukrainian existence/independence? What a serendipitous coincidence.

It smacks of Soviet satire. To get things past the censor, you write "straight." But then you'd put in something that's a wee bit off that gave the lie to the text that absolutely (otherwise) conformed to what was deemed politically or policy-wise acceptable, but which the Russian poli-sci and sociology majors working as censors were too stupid and uninformed to notice. And since what was put in was just a little off and passed the censors, well, obviously if degenerate dissidents misunderstood what you wrote but right-minded Homines sovietici understood correctly, the writer must be innocent of wrong-doing.

Now, Putin's regime is increasingly Soviet in nature as he relives his youth--government controls businesses, dictates to educators, oppresses those who disagree, socially constructs and reconstructs reality, and everything's put in moralistic terms: You agree with the "right thinkers" or, well, you get shut up and the government coordinates with Telegram and Vkontakte to make sure that you *are* shut up. Maybe that means "quieted", maybe it means "shut up in prison."

[Ford_Prefect]

13. This is straight up KGB playbook. FSB or whoever they are now called set it up

and had this poor woman playing patsy rather like Lee Harvey Oswald.

The advantage to eliminating Dugina and her father was to rally sentiment in Russia and falsely paint the Ukraine as a terrorist nation. That has been done before during and before the invasion. When they haven't been blaming Ukraine they have a decades long history of blaming Georgian separatists, Chechnya, and Russian Muslims in general.

[PortTack]

17. The national republic army a partisan group inside russia has taken credit for the explosion

Ukraine has already said they did not do this, they are not a terrorist state. Russia per usual wants to blame everything on the west and Ukraine

[Wicked Blue]

22. Another Russian fairy tale nt