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AZLD4Candidate

(5,639 posts)
Sat Sep 3, 2022, 06:53 AM Sep 2022

Online death threats against Biden after speech

Source: Yahoo

President Biden’s fiery speech in Philadelphia denouncing former President Donald Trump and what he described as “extreme MAGA ideology” has sparked online calls for violence, including death threats against the president, according to documents obtained by Yahoo News.

Biden’s remarks also prompted immediate concerns from senior counterterrorism officials who said they fear that calling Trump supporters extremists would be viewed as a call to arms and would only inflame an already volatile threat environment.

“Too much of what’s happening in our country today is not normal,” Biden said Thursday night at Independence Hall, flanked by two U.S. Marines. “Donald Trump and the MAGA Republicans represent an extremism that threatens the very foundations of our republic.”

Read more: https://www.aol.com/news/biden-speech-denouncing-trump-maga-003139236.html



So, when do we start the investigations against death threats again a sitting president?
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Online death threats against Biden after speech (Original Post) AZLD4Candidate Sep 2022 OP
So I guess the President should keep his mouth closed so as not to inflame a bunch Chainfire Sep 2022 #1
Yes, you cannot begin the healing PatSeg Sep 2022 #43
Cancer is a good analogy. Right now it has spread to 30% of the National body... Chainfire Sep 2022 #45
Yes, apparently 30% represents the most PatSeg Sep 2022 #69
Wait... piddyprints Sep 2022 #2
Critical thinking skills Maine Abu El Banat Sep 2022 #6
CTS Traildogbob Sep 2022 #37
correcto Evolve Dammit Sep 2022 #62
It's amazing that the Maga folks have not learned that posting things online isn't secret ashredux Sep 2022 #3
So what, gloves are off. cayugafalls Sep 2022 #4
Exactly. sop Sep 2022 #11
YES oswaldactedalone Sep 2022 #22
At Lies Anti-Social G2theD Sep 2022 #30
Spot on moose65 Sep 2022 #55
I expect the Secret Service COL Mustard Sep 2022 #5
Threats can be prosecuted empedocles Sep 2022 #13
Threats against the President should be investigated COL Mustard Sep 2022 #20
Thanks Joinfortmill Sep 2022 #28
We have GOT to stop being intimidated by these motherfuckers Novara Sep 2022 #7
Im sure POTUS knew and prepared for the onslaught of hatr & threats against him & his family onetexan Sep 2022 #18
Yup, Biden threw down the gauntlet. Joinfortmill Sep 2022 #29
Exactly. The vast majority of the cult.... paleotn Sep 2022 #44
Agree, but people do become terrorized by the sewer of social media. The fascists love terror Alexander Of Assyria Sep 2022 #67
The scary part is that they believe lapfog_1 Sep 2022 #8
They probably think that if they die for Trump, they will be met with 72 Meadowoak Sep 2022 #9
Let them. There r more of us than them. They w go down onetexan Sep 2022 #19
Yeah. And they're all Shakers. jmowreader Sep 2022 #68
MAGATs get outraged no matter what vlyons Sep 2022 #10
Could not agree more... augyboston Sep 2022 #21
+1 dalton99a Sep 2022 #46
Eff'em, call a spade a spade ouija Sep 2022 #12
Jesus Lemon Lyman Sep 2022 #14
Yup. 2naSalit Sep 2022 #23
They have confirmed his speech. . . . Lovie777 Sep 2022 #15
Crusaders for Trump no_hypocrisy Sep 2022 #16
Give 'em hell Dark Brandon! augyboston Sep 2022 #17
+1 llmart Sep 2022 #36
I totally agree Novara Sep 2022 #52
The law and order party. twodogsbarking Sep 2022 #24
Hey, MSM! PJMcK Sep 2022 #25
Yes, and they're DEPLORABLE too. Buckeye_Democrat Sep 2022 #26
Biden has served Trump & Maga Republicans notice: Don't tread on democracy. Joinfortmill Sep 2022 #27
This is what happens sindri Sep 2022 #31
True. Buckeye_Democrat Sep 2022 #35
Up the penalties in the criminal code and pursue every last one of them bucolic_frolic Sep 2022 #32
As my drill instructor used to say in boot camp; Dyedinthewoolliberal Sep 2022 #33
Call to arms? DownriverDem Sep 2022 #34
Joe's speech WAS a call to arms! Martin Eden Sep 2022 #38
Investigations? Already started..... paleotn Sep 2022 #39
I would expect the Secret Service would be investigating them liberal N proud Sep 2022 #40
Thay've won a free trip to a federal prison. Crowman2009 Sep 2022 #41
Biden called them out, and they've proved his point. sakabatou Sep 2022 #42
Oh, they will investigate. The idiots threatening the president online PatrickforB Sep 2022 #47
Indeed! 👍 Duppers Sep 2022 #48
Good. That's as it should be. nt crickets Sep 2022 #61
"Too much of what's happening in our country today is not normal," Baitball Blogger Sep 2022 #49
The truth hurts. Lock up those who threaten for a very long time. onecaliberal Sep 2022 #50
Jesus fucking Christ irony is so dead vercetti2021 Sep 2022 #51
Notice the officals didn't make any warning to the fascist, just a veiled warning to us to not Hotler Sep 2022 #53
Biden should follow up with another speech saying they've proved he's right Novara Sep 2022 #54
I'm definitely not afraid of these fuckwads. Elessar Zappa Sep 2022 #58
Dear counterterrorism's experts what else do want to call them.... turbinetree Sep 2022 #56
The irony of the FUCK THEIR FEELINGS + LET'S GO BRANDON crowd! Brainfodder Sep 2022 #57
They're all as thin skinned as he is Warpy Sep 2022 #59
I see our resident wingnuts haven't responded to this latest threat of violence. tenderfoot Sep 2022 #60
The best way to get rid of an infection is to rip the scab off to clean the pus out. appleannie1 Sep 2022 #63
So their response to being called a "danger to our democracy" Heather MC Sep 2022 #64
and that proves exactly what he said is correct JohnSJ Sep 2022 #65
Thank you President Biden. Snackshack Sep 2022 #66
Track them down, throw them in jail SouthernDem4ever Sep 2022 #70
Find them, arrest them, prosecute them, and locke 'em up. nt Roisin Ni Fiachra Sep 2022 #71
Shake the tree and the nuts are going to start appearing. Gore1FL Sep 2022 #72

Chainfire

(17,474 posts)
1. So I guess the President should keep his mouth closed so as not to inflame a bunch
Sat Sep 3, 2022, 06:57 AM
Sep 2022

of extremists traitors? Screw that! Bring them out into the open and destroy the criminals.

PatSeg

(47,282 posts)
43. Yes, you cannot begin the healing
Sat Sep 3, 2022, 09:18 AM
Sep 2022

until you bring the disease to the surface. Denying its existence only allows it to fester and grow. It is truly a cancer on our society.

Chainfire

(17,474 posts)
45. Cancer is a good analogy. Right now it has spread to 30% of the National body...
Sat Sep 3, 2022, 09:21 AM
Sep 2022

It will take some serious and painful treatment to save the patient.

PatSeg

(47,282 posts)
69. Yes, apparently 30% represents the most
Sun Sep 4, 2022, 07:26 AM
Sep 2022

vulnerable and susceptible parts of the "body". As with the human body, that is what can happen when precautions are not taken early on and obvious symptoms are ignored until it is too late.

piddyprints

(14,637 posts)
2. Wait...
Sat Sep 3, 2022, 07:00 AM
Sep 2022

He calls them extremists and they’re so insulted that they’re wanting to prove his point by making death threats? Is there a functioning brain among them?

ashredux

(2,599 posts)
3. It's amazing that the Maga folks have not learned that posting things online isn't secret
Sat Sep 3, 2022, 07:00 AM
Sep 2022

It’s amazing that the Maga folks not learned that posting things online isn’t secret… FBI will soon be knocking on your door

cayugafalls

(5,639 posts)
4. So what, gloves are off.
Sat Sep 3, 2022, 07:02 AM
Sep 2022

Republicans have gotten away with labeling democrats and liberals as everything under the sun without merit.

Time we start calling the traitorous mob for what they are, Fascists.

sop

(10,105 posts)
11. Exactly.
Sat Sep 3, 2022, 07:24 AM
Sep 2022

For decades Republicans have been smearing Democrats, calling them everything from "Godless communists" to "anti-American traitors." Most recently "groomers" and "pedophiles."

G2theD

(593 posts)
30. At Lies Anti-Social
Sat Sep 3, 2022, 08:21 AM
Sep 2022

Every post directed at a non-MAGA person contains accusations of “pedo” and “groomer”.

So fascist seems tame in contrast.

Thats right, bring these bastards out in the light of day and let them try something. I will be directing doordash from headquarters in my basement and watching our brave fighting men and women on TV, cheering them on against the fascists!

So fvck’em all!

Yours,
General Nuisance

moose65

(3,166 posts)
55. Spot on
Sat Sep 3, 2022, 10:40 AM
Sep 2022

Biden gives ONE speech and all the MAGAts lose their fucking minds. And they call US snowflakes??

Trump incited his mob in speech after speech and there seemed to be a collective "meh" from the masses. It is absolutely insane.

empedocles

(15,751 posts)
13. Threats can be prosecuted
Sat Sep 3, 2022, 07:27 AM
Sep 2022

'' . . . There has been some controversy among the federal appellate courts as to how the term "willfully" should be interpreted. Traditional legal interpretations of the term are reflected by Black's Law Dictionary's definition, which includes descriptions such as "malicious, done with evil intent, or with a bad motive or purpose," but most courts have adopted a more easily proven standard. For instance, the U.S. Court of Appeals for the Seventh Circuit held that a threat was knowingly made if the speaker comprehended the meaning of the words uttered by him or her. It was willingly made if, in addition to comprehending the words' meaning, the speaker voluntarily and intentionally uttered them as a declaration of apparent determination to carry them into execution.[11] According to the 2018 U.S. Attorney's Manual, "Of the individuals who come to the Secret Service's attention as creating a possible danger to one of their protectees, approximately 75 percent are mentally ill."[12] . . . "


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Threatening_the_president_of_the_United_States

COL Mustard

(5,871 posts)
20. Threats against the President should be investigated
Sat Sep 3, 2022, 07:49 AM
Sep 2022

And prosecuted as appropriate. We can’t survive a climate where there are no consequences for that. Yes, most are probably mentally ill, but the agencies have to investigate to stop credible threats. Imagine the outcry that would follow an assassination where the Secret Service knew about a credible threat and hadn’t investigated. It wouldn’t matter which President or from which party. They have lifetime protection for a very good reason.

Novara

(5,821 posts)
7. We have GOT to stop being intimidated by these motherfuckers
Sat Sep 3, 2022, 07:06 AM
Sep 2022
Biden’s remarks also prompted immediate concerns from senior counterterrorism officials who said they fear that calling Trump supporters extremists would be viewed as a call to arms and would only inflame an already volatile threat environment.


Tough shit. Fuck around and find out, would you?

I'm getting to the point where fine, let's antagonize them. Let's dare them to come to Washington fully loaded. This is Biden's America. They're not going to be met with a purposefully watered-down Capitol police force that can't keep up. They will be met with the National Guard. So yeah, let's dare them to fuck around and find out.

Maybe putting down these assholes in a massive show of force will make them think twice about threatening "civil war" next time.

And I surely hope the secret service is following up on death threats to the president like they're supposed to. I remember when I was a kid, we were told never to even joke about killing the president because secret service would find out and give us a visit. That may have been hyperbole back then, but we've got to start pushing back on death threats because they've become way too commonplace. We've been allowing these motherfuckers to intimidate us. I am sick of it.

onetexan

(13,023 posts)
18. Im sure POTUS knew and prepared for the onslaught of hatr & threats against him & his family
Sat Sep 3, 2022, 07:47 AM
Sep 2022

With the remarks of his speech, yet he knew he needed to speak out & bravely did so. Nothing new re: death threats - it was a constant when Obama was in office, & its a constant now. The loyal SS & other agents entrusted w the 1st family's safety w need to be on guard & extra vigilant going fwd.

Good ol fascists. Nothing like being told the truth & getting riled up because you can't handle it 😁.

paleotn

(17,884 posts)
44. Exactly. The vast majority of the cult....
Sat Sep 3, 2022, 09:19 AM
Sep 2022

don't have the brains, resources or gumption to even do a tiny fraction of what they spout in the relative safety of the internet. And even those internet "tough guys" are but a small fraction of the Trump base.

Perspective, folks. Keep it in perspective.

 

Alexander Of Assyria

(7,839 posts)
67. Agree, but people do become terrorized by the sewer of social media. The fascists love terror
Sat Sep 3, 2022, 08:02 PM
Sep 2022

and hate speech and have found a friendly underground drain in no hate speech laws America!

lapfog_1

(29,193 posts)
8. The scary part is that they believe
Sat Sep 3, 2022, 07:06 AM
Sep 2022

that if they are arrested and convicted of making threats against the President, that someday Trump will be President again and will pardon them.

They also think that if they carry our their threats to the President

onetexan

(13,023 posts)
19. Let them. There r more of us than them. They w go down
Sat Sep 3, 2022, 07:48 AM
Sep 2022

as their dear leader will. In the end Mussolini, hitler, stalin, ...all of them came to a fitful demise. The MAGA w too.

jmowreader

(50,529 posts)
68. Yeah. And they're all Shakers.
Sat Sep 3, 2022, 11:51 PM
Sep 2022

The Shaker religion forbade sex even for procreation. They grew their ranks by recruiting from the outside world.

vlyons

(10,252 posts)
10. MAGATs get outraged no matter what
Sat Sep 3, 2022, 07:18 AM
Sep 2022

Biden could have recited "hickory dicory dock," and they would have been outraged. They live in constant outrage and resentment that life is not fair. Well guess what? Life is not fair. Get over it. Do something nice for someone else for a change. Stop being so damn selfish.

augyboston

(193 posts)
21. Could not agree more...
Sat Sep 3, 2022, 07:52 AM
Sep 2022

All this time spent hating and embracing victimhood is so pathetic.

Do something nice for someone else is an excellent suggestion. Sadly, I'm not sure if any of these professional victims even knows how to do anything that isn't about themselves...

no_hypocrisy

(46,030 posts)
16. Crusaders for Trump
Sat Sep 3, 2022, 07:39 AM
Sep 2022

In the tradition of crazed religious zealots, there will be one individual who will try to kill Biden to prove how much he loves Trump.

augyboston

(193 posts)
17. Give 'em hell Dark Brandon!
Sat Sep 3, 2022, 07:47 AM
Sep 2022

President Biden said what had to be said and he needs to keep calling these traitors out every minute of every day!

The MAGA crowd has been railing against anyone who does not go merrily jack booting down the road with them.

You can't love America and hate democracy, you can't love America and try to tear down all of it's institutions, you can't love America and embrace fascism, you can't love America and put a political party or cult leader ahead of her interests, you can't love America and hate her core principles - it's like saying you abuse your wife because you love her - BULLSHIT!

Every last one of these bastards who threaten President Biden should be brought to justice and serve long harsh prison terms. The gloves are off and if the MAGA crowd thinks they're going to destroy our democracy without a fight they've got a lot to learn. When push comes to shove and hate filled traitors come to take America away from us that's when all hell will break loose!

Novara

(5,821 posts)
52. I totally agree
Sat Sep 3, 2022, 10:08 AM
Sep 2022

I am so glad Biden made this speech in prime time although the fucking networks were too cowardly to carry it. I am so sick of intimidation. It's time we have a show of force. There ARE more of us than there are of them, and by taking them seriously and being afraid of them, we are legitimizing their illegal actions. We are teaching them that intimidation works. It's time we put them down once and for all.

So rile them up. Let them try to riot. It will be the last time they do because they will be met with overwhelming force.

PJMcK

(21,998 posts)
25. Hey, MSM!
Sat Sep 3, 2022, 07:58 AM
Sep 2022

Let's see you spin this as "both sides do it."

President Biden condemns violence and the MAGA Republicans call for his assassination!

One side calls for peaceful government the other side calls for violence.

MAGA proves the President's point. Report that, MSM.

Buckeye_Democrat

(14,852 posts)
26. Yes, and they're DEPLORABLE too.
Sat Sep 3, 2022, 08:03 AM
Sep 2022

MAGA reaction to the truth:

Just like the Confederates who had their poor feelings hurt after the Civil War, after they seceded for the sake of SLAVERY.

sindri

(37 posts)
31. This is what happens
Sat Sep 3, 2022, 08:22 AM
Sep 2022

when we spend years allowing elected officials to get away with threatening "2nd Amendment solutions". The GOP has created this mess by showing threats as an appropriate 1st Amendment option and they can't clear it up because they get the same death threats if they try.

bucolic_frolic

(43,062 posts)
32. Up the penalties in the criminal code and pursue every last one of them
Sat Sep 3, 2022, 08:23 AM
Sep 2022

60 days and $2500 fines, more if against government officials or candidates

Dyedinthewoolliberal

(15,546 posts)
33. As my drill instructor used to say in boot camp;
Sat Sep 3, 2022, 08:32 AM
Sep 2022

(paraphrasing) "Every swingin' dick that made a threat against the President need to go to jail!"

Martin Eden

(12,847 posts)
38. Joe's speech WAS a call to arms!
Sat Sep 3, 2022, 08:58 AM
Sep 2022

Our democracy is facing an existential threat. It is time for all good citizens to come to the aid of their country!

paleotn

(17,884 posts)
39. Investigations? Already started.....
Sat Sep 3, 2022, 09:12 AM
Sep 2022

Making death threats against Biden, members of Congress, etc. is serious and taken as such by federal law enforcement. But overall, those of us outside the cult tend to take these online "warriors" far too seriously. The vast, vast majority are dumb wankers and old farts who lack anywhere near the wherewithal to actually DO what they spout on the interwebs. So the rubes are in a uproar. Let them be.

PatrickforB

(14,559 posts)
47. Oh, they will investigate. The idiots threatening the president online
Sat Sep 3, 2022, 09:31 AM
Sep 2022

will at very least get a visit from some people in suits who don't have senses of humor. Some may even be detained.

Baitball Blogger

(46,684 posts)
49. "Too much of what's happening in our country today is not normal,"
Sat Sep 3, 2022, 09:44 AM
Sep 2022

I have said those words before to describe what was going on a local basis, where the good buddies used fraud to get their way. So I applaud Biden for using them in this case because it's like drawing a line in the sand and show where you're going to make your stand. The alternative is to be led deeper into a rabbit hole.

onecaliberal

(32,782 posts)
50. The truth hurts. Lock up those who threaten for a very long time.
Sat Sep 3, 2022, 09:57 AM
Sep 2022

I’m all out of fucks to give about these people.

vercetti2021

(10,156 posts)
51. Jesus fucking Christ irony is so dead
Sat Sep 3, 2022, 10:07 AM
Sep 2022

MAGATS: Joe Biden made fun of me we are not fascists!
Also MAGATS: *sends death threats to the president*

These people are so fucking stupid and easily playing right into the whole entire thing

Hotler

(11,396 posts)
53. Notice the officals didn't make any warning to the fascist, just a veiled warning to us to not
Sat Sep 3, 2022, 10:10 AM
Sep 2022

poke the fascist nest. So when can we expect a news conference from the officials warning the fascist against any violence?

Novara

(5,821 posts)
54. Biden should follow up with another speech saying they've proved he's right
Sat Sep 3, 2022, 10:16 AM
Sep 2022

And then invite them to come to Washington, where, he should tell them, they will be met with the full force of the law. Dare them. They're too cowardly to follow up. And that will prove once and for all they're a bunch of weak wankers.

I'd really love for Biden to stand up and spell it out and say, "Your intimidation won't work." That will empower others in the public eye to follow his lead. We CAN put them in their place.

I know there are those who are afraid of more Oklahoma City bombings. But there's a massive difference now: we've got WAY better security all over the country now. It's going to be a LOT harder for someone to plan something like that and to carry it out. I mean, the FBI foiled a plot to kidnap Governor Whitmer and those motherfuckers have been convicted.

Let's stop being afraid of them.

Elessar Zappa

(13,911 posts)
58. I'm definitely not afraid of these fuckwads.
Sat Sep 3, 2022, 12:13 PM
Sep 2022

The vast, vast majority are nothing but cowards and keyboard warriors. They would piss their pants if they had to face the US military.

turbinetree

(24,683 posts)
56. Dear counterterrorism's experts what else do want to call them....
Sat Sep 3, 2022, 11:00 AM
Sep 2022

after all 10,000+ of them tried to take down a duly elected government.......because there "guy" is a sore LOSER..... in fact some of them are running for office....and were at the fucking insurrection, I can name one from Pennsylvania running for the office to be a governor and he runs around with his airborne ranger emblem on his lapel.....what a fucking disgrace.....he should be in jail.....

Brainfodder

(6,423 posts)
57. The irony of the FUCK THEIR FEELINGS + LET'S GO BRANDON crowd!
Sat Sep 3, 2022, 11:17 AM
Sep 2022

Death threats at this point, should get ya 50 years.

Would stop REAL quick!


Warpy

(111,167 posts)
59. They're all as thin skinned as he is
Sat Sep 3, 2022, 12:43 PM
Sep 2022

but for them, it's artificial. Stick enough needles into it and it will pop and disappear. They'll be left naked in the real world which will be unbearably drab to most of them and I think this terrifies them.

That's why they're losing it over what I thought was a fairly mild speech, given the circumstances.

That means it's working.

tenderfoot

(8,425 posts)
60. I see our resident wingnuts haven't responded to this latest threat of violence.
Sat Sep 3, 2022, 12:52 PM
Sep 2022

too busy playing down the media's concern trolling about Biden's speech and sticking up for Chris Licht because Colbert got along with him.

 

Heather MC

(8,084 posts)
64. So their response to being called a "danger to our democracy"
Sat Sep 3, 2022, 04:22 PM
Sep 2022

Is to behave dangerously.

I'm no expert but I feel like maybe Joe Biden is on to something

SouthernDem4ever

(6,617 posts)
70. Track them down, throw them in jail
Sun Sep 4, 2022, 07:32 AM
Sep 2022

We need to build a special federal prison, or a wing on that prison and call it 'basket of deplorables' and put the death threat morons in there.

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