Graham Proposes 15-Week Abortion Ban, Seeking to Unite Republicans

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Source: New York Times

Senator Lindsey Graham of South Carolina introduced legislation on Tuesday that would institute a federal ban on abortions after 15 weeks of pregnancy, moving to unite the Republican Party behind a position before midterm elections in which abortion rights have become a potent issue.

There is no chance that Senator Chuck Schumer, Democrat of New York and the majority leader, would allow such a bill to receive a vote on the floor. But Mr. Graham’s proposal was an effort to politically insulate Republicans from voter backlash after the Supreme Court ended the constitutional right to abortion in June.

It was a stark reversal from just weeks ago, when top Republicans including Senator Mitch McConnell of Kentucky, the minority leader, signaled that they were unlikely to pursue a nationwide abortion ban after the court’s decision...

Read more: https://www.nytimes.com/2022/09/13/us/politics/lindsey-graham-abortion.html

[brooklynite]

1. An opposing viewpoint...

Link to tweet

[emulatorloo]

2. Graham has no clue which way the wind is blowing. Does he think this will help Republicans win?

[MissMillie]

39. Yeah, uniting the 30% of those who oppose reproductive rights

seems more likely to energize the rest of us.

I've seen a photo that was posted that shows him making this announcement--surrounded by women (one of them a non-white woman). He couldn't possibly think that he's convincing anyone by having these women stand with him, could he?

[slightlv]

3. Explain how this

insulates republicans against voter backlash?

[CrispyQ]

4. How does a national abortion ban insulate the GOP from backlash?

Seems to me this announcement will strengthen the resolve of women voters. ???

[JohnSJ]

19. You would think so. There is no ambiguity what the republicans stand for

[2naSalit]

22. Up is down...

Day is night, dogs and cats sleeping together!

Sign of the times.

[thesquanderer]

5. "Please proceed, Mr. Graham." n/t

[FloridaBlues]

6. If they gain power it be be a total ban not 15 week

[demigoddess]

25. yes, they want to outlaw abortion. The reason? More bodies to send into wars!

that is what it always has been about. More soldiers!

[Sky Jewels]

29. And also more white babies to counteract the looming minority status of Caucasians.

And also more masses to work in low-wage jobs to enrich billionaires.

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34. Yep, I think he's trying to make them look less radical with 15 weeks

n/t

[Harker]

7. He has no credibility on this or any other matter. n/t

[Hugh_Lebowski]

8. If a 15-week ban except for pregnant minors and/or danger to health of the mother/bad birth defects

With VERY liberal definitions of what constitutes 'danger' ... and that would END this friggin' debate forever ... AND there was something in the bill that makes birth control basically free, AND it did away with any state requirements for parental permission, I might support it.

Problem is, that scenario will certainly never happen with a GQP-sponsored bill.

[alphafemale]

9. How about if a man causes an unwanted pregnancy we sever his dick?

oh...oh my?

Is that an extreme reaction and I don't have a right to the thought being I don't have a dick?

[Hugh_Lebowski]

12. That would surely lower the birth rate, a concept of which I'm an avowed fan

So I suppose your proposal has some utility towards that goal

But I have to ask ... are you are a female with no desire to be in the presence of a dick for the rest of your lifetime?

Cause if you want to give all females the power to get any guy's dick chopped off of him just based on their word ... pretty good chance you'd never see one again.

But if you never care to, then I understand.

The World could probably use less dicks if I'm honest

[dalton99a]

10. Fuck that shit

[pimpbot]

11. This can't be passed via reconciliation thus is DOA

They are trying to restart the car and get the dog to chase it again. They will never have 60 votes to pass something like this.

Overturning RvW blew up in their face because they no longer had a fear tool to use. This is an attempt to bring the crazy base back in line. Hopefully enough sane people vote to put these idiots in their place.

[Botany]

13. You go for that albtross Lindsey ....

BTW I do agree that all man opposed to abortion should not get one.

[usonian]

14. From all the news sources he reads, it's pretty unanimous that people want the ban.

Let him unite the GQP on this point.
Where We Go One We Go All

[Botany]

17. Titanic Hey, free ice in every room

&t=1s

Preach it Charlie.

[Novara]

15. Brilliant strategy ... for democrats

Jeebus, what a moron. Propose an outright ban right before the midterms, right when America is livid that women's rights to our own bodies are stripped away.

What's more, the rape exception for minors only applies if the doctor gets documentation from law enforcement reporting a rape. Republicans want to make it the law that 10-year-olds are presumed to have consented to sex.

Just fucking brilliant ... for Dems.

[LetMyPeopleVote]

16. Lindsey Graham just made the midterms 💯 about abortion, which means Roevember is coming.

Link to tweet

[JohnSJ]

18. Actually Schumer should allow it to come to the floor so everyone can see exactly what the

repukes are

[BOSSHOG]

20. Seeking an abortion ban to fire up a minority

You Go Boy.

[heckles65]

21. Whatever happened to

"we're not out to ban abortion just give the issue to the state legislatures as the Founders intended?"

--Although I didn't believe them for a nanosecond.

[2naSalit]

23. Squirrel!

[oasis]

24. FLG

[ZonkerHarris]

26. GOP to Women: Fuck You!

loud and clear

[sakabatou]

27. So, "leave it up to the states" was a lie too.

[OnDoutside]

28. Too late.

[BradAllison]

30. That press conference was pathetic

The creepy African American lady with the perma-smile on her face, as a woman in the crowd told her painful abortion story was certainly nothing a man who KNOWS NOTHING ABOUT FEMALES like Lindsay could handle.

This was just a man in denial demanding the Republican party not give up on him.

[Ladythatvotesblue]

31. It is coming to

a voting booth near you. I just voted in the state of NH. Straight down the line all BLUE!

I am not sure that Lady G knows what a VJJ is. Or how it works.
Horrendous thing to put a woman through, and if He is not a licensed Doctor he has NO BUSINESS getting between a woman and her Doctor!!!

[Demsrule86]

40. Wasn't the New Hampshire primary yesterday too? How does that work?

[wiggs]

32. Looks like red states can still pass total bans. Doesn't re-establish Roe before 15 weeks. nt

[Demsrule86]

41. But New York and rationale states loose the right...OK Lindsey now you pissed off

everyone. And New York California, Illinois, and Michigan (ETC) GOP women are on notice that they too will lose their pro-choice rights.

[Demsrule86]

42. But New York and rationale states loose the right...OK Lindsey now you pissed off

everyone. And New York California, Illinois, and Michigan (ETC) GOP women are on notice that they too will lose their pro-choice rights.

[wiggs]

33. So dems should offer amendments establishing right to choose prior to, say, 21 weeks...and

allow some kind of restriction after that? Does this start a conversation that results in restoration of right to choose up until a certain point and under some circumstances later?

Can dems, who hold the floor, hijack the legislation...Or is this just doomed from the start?

[Demsrule86]

43. No we won't offer anything on this bill period. It won't reach the floor anyway.

[nowforever]

35. His unconscious is at work

This proposal is just a way of saying to women across this country get out and vote for your lives. The guilt resulting from his embracing of Trump is revealing itself in this act. At least his unconscious is able to do that right thing.

[mahina]

36. If they wanted this why didn't they try when they were in power?

I worry about the real intentions behind this. They must have a reason.

[Stuart G]

37. Lindsey Graham is really a "2 watt" bulb. Women vote is that correct?

Very good for our side. Not good for the republican side.

Lindsey is much too stupid to know that his bill is a great advantage to our side. (and for women's rights)
...Making this an issue in the next election is NOT good for ..."THEM"...and it is good for "US"

..I guess that Lindsey doesn't know that women want the right to their bodies, and their decision to have
babies or not to have babies. Oh, one more idea, "Women Vote." is that right?

Something about the ...."19 Amendment to the Constitution"...Is that right?

[Rhiannon12866]

38. Video: Lindsey Graham Hands Democrats A Gift With Federal Abortion Ban Proposal - Alex Wagner MSNBC

https://www.democraticunderground.com/1017767242

Alex Wagner reports on a nationwide federal abortion ban proposed by Lindsey Graham, contradicting his previous statements about leaving abortion laws up to the states, and emphasizing that with enough votes to flip the Senate, Republicans will actually try to make such a ban become real law - a message Democrats are happy to have American voters understand. - Aired on 09/13/2022.