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BumRushDaShow

(171,346 posts)
Sat Oct 1, 2022, 06:55 PM Oct 2022

National Archives says it's still missing records from Trump officials

Source: Washington Post

The National Archives has told the House Oversight Committee that it has not yet recovered all of the records from Trump administration officials that should have been transferred under the Presidential Records Act. The archives will consult with the Department of Justice “on whether ‘to initiate an action for the recovery of records unlawfully removed,’ as established under the Federal Records Act,” acting archivist Debra Wall Steidel said in a letter sent on Friday to the committee’s chairwoman, Carolyn B. Maloney (D-N.Y.).

Steidel Wall added that the archives has been unable to obtain federal records related to “non-official electronic messaging accounts that were not copied or forwarded into their official electronic messaging accounts.” Presidential advisers are required to forward such messages to their official accounts under the law, she noted. “While there is no easy way to establish absolute accountability, we do know that we do not have custody of everything we should,” Steidel Wall wrote, according to the letter provided to The Washington Post.

Steidel Wall cited the ongoing lawsuit filed by the Justice Department on behalf of the National Archives against former Trump adviser Peter Navarro over failing to turn over private emails involving official White House business during his stint serving in the Trump administration. Under the Presidential Records Act, the immediate staff of the president, the vice president and anyone who advises the president must preserve records and phone calls pertaining to official duties.

Although the latest letter referred to Trump officials, the spotlight on former president Donald Trump and the documents he kept after leaving the White House has increased since a court-approved FBI search of the Mar-a-Lago Club on Aug. 8. The FBI has recovered more than 300 classified documents from Mar-a-Lago this year: 184 in a set of 15 boxes sent to the National Archives and Records Administration in January; 38 more handed over by a Trump lawyer to investigators in June; and more than 100 additional documents found in the Aug. 8 search.

Read more: https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2022/10/01/trump-presidential-records-national-archives/



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National Archives says it's still missing records from Trump officials (Original Post) BumRushDaShow Oct 2022 OP
K & R! 50 Shades Of Blue Oct 2022 #1
I'm shocked!!! Shocked!!!! COL Mustard Oct 2022 #4
I don't think Putin will return them. olegramps Oct 2022 #24
You know in Colorado and in Maryland people were trying to sell documents turbinetree Oct 2022 #2
Really? I_UndergroundPanther Oct 2022 #31
Here is what I am seeing.... turbinetree Oct 2022 #32
My links got switched up. I_UndergroundPanther Oct 2022 #35
And there is a orange hair traitor just like those people in the other articles turbinetree Oct 2022 #36
"No easy way..." means "we have to get warrants and maybe even prosecute some folks." ZonkerHarris Oct 2022 #3
The CIA has to assume everything has been compromised. Irish_Dem Oct 2022 #5
Makes me wonder if tRump does have other stuff... johnnyfins Oct 2022 #7
The consensus of the panel was yes to your question. Irish_Dem Oct 2022 #9
I assume that Trump has already sold at least some of the information in the top-secret documents. Lonestarblue Oct 2022 #25
He most likely could not resist making millions/billions of dollars, cash from foreign gov'ts asap. Irish_Dem Oct 2022 #30
"unlawfully removed" suggests something?? Evolve Dammit Oct 2022 #6
Lock. Him. Up. n/t area51 Oct 2022 #8
What does it take to get a search warrant? C_U_L8R Oct 2022 #10
Why hasn't he been picked up already? Botany Oct 2022 #11
+100! Rhiannon12866 Oct 2022 #12
Because he has more stuff that is SO sensitive johnnyfins Oct 2022 #13
Because they are afraid it will look partisan Kablooie Oct 2022 #14
The man has stolen our national secrets, sold or traded those secrets to Russia & Saudi Arabia, .. Botany Oct 2022 #27
Yep. But to arrest them would look partisan so they are all still free. Kablooie Oct 2022 #28
✔️ ✔️ ✔️ ✔️ ✔️ n/t msfiddlestix Oct 2022 #20
August 8, not only is it my Birthday, it was the day Nixon gave his resignation speech MiniMe Oct 2022 #15
Is ANYONE surprised at this? Ferrets are Cool Oct 2022 #16
OF COURSE there are records still missing! DemocraticPatriot Oct 2022 #17
Why am I not surprised? sakabatou Oct 2022 #18
Donny doesn't want America to know he betrayed us. Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Oct 2022 #19
Still no arrest, no charges... just wow. n/t msfiddlestix Oct 2022 #21
Maybe they are with Ivana. twodogsbarking Oct 2022 #22
He admitted he had more. There were pictures of his people carrying boxes of them into his Autumn Oct 2022 #23
Of course it is. Snackshack Oct 2022 #26
TFG has a very hungry toilet along with many very shady friends. KY_EnviroGuy Oct 2022 #29
dig her up.. sigpooie Oct 2022 #33
K&R ck4829 Oct 2022 #34

COL Mustard

(8,330 posts)
4. I'm shocked!!! Shocked!!!!
Sat Oct 1, 2022, 07:32 PM
Oct 2022

Get me to the fainting couch, and bring the smelling salts, dammit! I cannot believe this is true!!!!












turbinetree

(27,618 posts)
2. You know in Colorado and in Maryland people were trying to sell documents
Sat Oct 1, 2022, 07:21 PM
Oct 2022

to what they thought were Russian spies.....what makes these people so special not to be arrested.....

turbinetree

(27,618 posts)
36. And there is a orange hair traitor just like those people in the other articles
Tue Oct 4, 2022, 01:47 PM
Oct 2022

who have been charged and will more than likely spend time behind bars and they are in jail, but I digress, and the orange hair traitor still running around.....what am I missing.....just like millions of others what are we missing here......

Irish_Dem

(81,993 posts)
5. The CIA has to assume everything has been compromised.
Sat Oct 1, 2022, 07:47 PM
Oct 2022

There will never be a way to know exactly what Trump and his pals (including Jared) took,
what they did with it, and if they are still selling or talking about intel to others.

Other countries will be hesitant to share intel with us.

Agents have no idea what others know about them. Who is watching them, etc.

The US will never know what countries have received secret informant.

We have to assume the worst.

The damage is incalculable.

This came from John Brennan, former CIA chief in a video interview posted here on DU.

Brennan believes Trump has stolen classified docs hidden in other places besides MAL.

johnnyfins

(3,917 posts)
7. Makes me wonder if tRump does have other stuff...
Sat Oct 1, 2022, 08:12 PM
Oct 2022

...if it is sensitive enough it may be his get out of jail free card. What an absolute joke...

Irish_Dem

(81,993 posts)
9. The consensus of the panel was yes to your question.
Sat Oct 1, 2022, 08:17 PM
Oct 2022

It was a panel with an FBI attorney, and CIA and national security experts.

The documents Trump has taken are the most sensitive documents in our country.
So sensitive that the matter cannot be pursued.

The most we can hope for is a charge of mishandling government documents.

Lonestarblue

(13,548 posts)
25. I assume that Trump has already sold at least some of the information in the top-secret documents.
Sun Oct 2, 2022, 12:01 PM
Oct 2022

He had them for nearly 18 months, and video from MAL showed boxes of documents being moved in and out of storage, which says that Trump was looking at them, possibly having them copied, and possibly sharing them with club members who could well be foreign agents who have ready access to the club.

He probably has other documents hidden at Bedminster. Given the poor record keeping in the WH, or possibly the deliberately sloppy record keeping to hide document theft, the DOJ may never find all the missing documents. The intelligence community has to assume that everything in those top-secret documents is now known to a foreign enemy. What a mess.

And if another Republican, either Trump or one like him, becomes president in 2024 or later, I think a number of our allies may stop sharing top-secret intel with the US for fear of its secret use against them. They know now not to trust the Republican Party.

Irish_Dem

(81,993 posts)
30. He most likely could not resist making millions/billions of dollars, cash from foreign gov'ts asap.
Sun Oct 2, 2022, 03:50 PM
Oct 2022

I cannot imagine him sitting on a gold mine for any length of time.
Just too tempting for him and he has zero self control.

Yes it is most likely he has documents stashed in various places for safe keeping.

Yes the CIA has to assume the worst and go from there.

In addition to the documents missing, they don't know what Trump has stored in his head
and is still blabbing about it.

It has already happened, our allies hesitate to share with us.
Too many Putin/GOP puppets in high places.

C_U_L8R

(49,480 posts)
10. What does it take to get a search warrant?
Sat Oct 1, 2022, 08:27 PM
Oct 2022

To this non-lawyer, it seem there is plenty of probable cause to search Trump's other properties as well as his cohorts.

johnnyfins

(3,917 posts)
13. Because he has more stuff that is SO sensitive
Sat Oct 1, 2022, 09:36 PM
Oct 2022

that this will all get washed over and buried.

Hate to say it but he prolly has "leverage" over the entire United States Government. It's how he operates. His name is very appropriate. DON as in Corleone...

Kablooie

(19,115 posts)
14. Because they are afraid it will look partisan
Sat Oct 1, 2022, 09:45 PM
Oct 2022

Not to look partisan is of higher importance than arresting criminals.

Botany

(77,682 posts)
27. The man has stolen our national secrets, sold or traded those secrets to Russia & Saudi Arabia, ..
Sun Oct 2, 2022, 12:04 PM
Oct 2022

... and is an active Russian agent as was obvious from the 1990s & 2000s when he repeated a
1970s Soviet Union talking point/wedge issue that Europe was taking advantage of America by
not paying their fair share to NATO.

The mother fucker had documents about our surveillance satellites in his bedroom closets and his
personal desk and even though Russia invaded Ukraine (for a second time) after he left office I'm
sure Trump told Vlad about our satellites in geosynchronos orbits over the Ukraine. He also sold out
secret agents and their sources around the world too.

He should be indicted, picked up today, questioned (until he asks for his lawyer), then held as a flight risk,
his other properties should be searched, given a trial, and then given what the last 3 people who sold out
America @ his level which is either executed (the Rosenbergs) or life in prison @ the Super Max in Colorado
(FBI agent Robert Hanssen).

Republicans including Mitch McConnell, Paul Ryan, McCarthy, and Steve Scalise all knew Trump was Russian
dirty.

https://www.newyorker.com/news/news-desk/paul-ryan-keeps-it-family-kevin-mccarthy-russia-trump
and McConnell was told of the Russian rat fucking of our elections in 2016 and kept it hidden.


Kablooie

(19,115 posts)
28. Yep. But to arrest them would look partisan so they are all still free.
Sun Oct 2, 2022, 01:17 PM
Oct 2022

Republicans would not have this restriction. They revel in looking partisan but it overrides everything for Democrats.

MiniMe

(21,883 posts)
15. August 8, not only is it my Birthday, it was the day Nixon gave his resignation speech
Sat Oct 1, 2022, 09:48 PM
Oct 2022

AND it is the date of the raid on Mar-a-Lardo

 

DemocraticPatriot

(5,410 posts)
17. OF COURSE there are records still missing!
Sat Oct 1, 2022, 10:07 PM
Oct 2022

God only knows how many things he flushed down the toilet....!

Autumn

(48,992 posts)
23. He admitted he had more. There were pictures of his people carrying boxes of them into his
Sun Oct 2, 2022, 10:06 AM
Oct 2022

other property. No one seems to be bothered by it.

Snackshack

(2,594 posts)
26. Of course it is.
Sun Oct 2, 2022, 12:03 PM
Oct 2022

DT is an idiot but he is not so stupid as to leave all the stolen National secrets he took in one place. Those docs sat there for months. Who knows how many docs were sold. Kushner did just get $2billion from MBS giving that to DT would have been a gigantic red flag but not to Kushner… what was that for?

KY_EnviroGuy

(14,793 posts)
29. TFG has a very hungry toilet along with many very shady friends.
Sun Oct 2, 2022, 02:14 PM
Oct 2022

What I want to know - in total - what laws apply here relating to the original removal of the documents, the transporting of them over state lines, and the subsequent lack of proper security after removal from Washington.

Not a legal eagle but I can't imagine it's not against the law to remove classified documents from the control of government security. Many legal red lines had to have been crossed on the day they were removed.

What if a regular government employee had done this? I suspect he/she would be under a jail somewhere.


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