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mahatmakanejeeves

(57,600 posts)
Mon Oct 3, 2022, 11:29 AM Oct 2022

Supreme Court rejects challenges to bump stock ban

Source: Associated Press, via CBS News

POLITICS

Supreme Court rejects challenges to bump stock ban

OCTOBER 3, 2022 / 10:27 AM / AP

The Supreme Court said Monday it won't take up two cases that involved challenges to a ban enacted during the Trump administration on bump stocks, the gun attachments that allow semi-automatic weapons to fire rapidly like machine guns.

The justices' decision not to hear the cases comes on the heels of a decision in June in which the justices by a 6-3 vote expanded gun-possession rights, weakening states' ability to limit the carrying of guns in public.

The cases the justices declined to hear were an appeal from a Utah gun rights advocate and another brought by the gun rights group Gun Owners of America and others. As is typical the justices made no comments in declining to hear the cases and they were among many the court rejected Monday, the first day of the court's new term.

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Read more: https://www.cbsnews.com/news/supreme-court-rejects-bump-stock-ban-cases/

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Supreme Court rejects challenges to bump stock ban (Original Post) mahatmakanejeeves Oct 2022 OP
Good!!!! MarineCombatEngineer Oct 2022 #1
Agree it's great news, but still wonder if the motivation was not to overrule Trump (nt) Hugh_Lebowski Oct 2022 #3
Quite possible, MarineCombatEngineer Oct 2022 #4
Fair enough :) nt Hugh_Lebowski Oct 2022 #8
Or if it is to soften some other decision PatSeg Oct 2022 #5
Not at all likely that they were motivated by a desire to uphold a Trump rule. onenote Oct 2022 #9
Thanks for the info :) nt Hugh_Lebowski Oct 2022 #10
OMG TYRANNY maxsolomon Oct 2022 #2
NRA, we ain't yo bit**es any mo. nt TigressDem Oct 2022 #6
Good. The 2nd doesnt apply; its NOT a gun. Its just a "thing" & can be banned. oldsoftie Oct 2022 #7
So can guns SouthernDem4ever Oct 2022 #11
That's not the argument in this case. onenote Oct 2022 #12
This is very simple. No company should be allowed truthisfreedom Oct 2022 #13

MarineCombatEngineer

(12,423 posts)
1. Good!!!!
Mon Oct 3, 2022, 11:32 AM
Oct 2022

There is absolutely no reason for ANYONE to have those bump stocks and, although surprising, given the RW majority, this is the correct decision.

MarineCombatEngineer

(12,423 posts)
4. Quite possible,
Mon Oct 3, 2022, 11:43 AM
Oct 2022

but the Supremes aren't afraid to overrule Benedict Donald, as witnessed when they refused to take up any of his bogus voter fraud lawsuits.

PatSeg

(47,583 posts)
5. Or if it is to soften some other decision
Mon Oct 3, 2022, 12:27 PM
Oct 2022

coming up in the near future. It is hard to trust this court these days.

onenote

(42,758 posts)
9. Not at all likely that they were motivated by a desire to uphold a Trump rule.
Mon Oct 3, 2022, 02:40 PM
Oct 2022

Consider the history of the case.

The rule initially upheld by a GWB named district court judge
A three judge panel of the Sixth Circuit then reversed the district court judge by a 2-1 vote, with a Trump and GHWB judge making up the majority, and GWB judge in dissent.
The full Sixth Circuit then voted to rehear the case and divided evenly, 8-8; the effect of that split vote was to reinstate the district court decision upholding the rule. The votes on whether to uphold the rule broke out as follows: in favor of upholding the rule -- 3 GWB judges, 3 Clinton judges, 2 Obama judges; voting to strike down the rule: 5 Trump judges, 2 GWB judges, and 1 GHWB judge.

In short, the Trump judges were the ones who wanted to strike down the Trump rule.


SouthernDem4ever

(6,617 posts)
11. So can guns
Mon Oct 3, 2022, 03:42 PM
Oct 2022

all one has to do is make the term "well regulated militia" apply only to State and Federal Police, National Guard and the Military. The rest is just NRA bullshit.

onenote

(42,758 posts)
12. That's not the argument in this case.
Mon Oct 3, 2022, 05:03 PM
Oct 2022

In fact, in a sense, the argument in this case is exactly the opposite.

Machineguns have been regulated for a long time. Specifically, the National Firearms Act defines a “machinegun” as “any weapon which shoots, is designed to shoot, or can be readily restored to shoot, automatically more than one shot, without manual reloading, by a single function of the trigger.” Since 1968, the term has also been defined to encompass parts that can be used to convert a weapon into a machinegun.

When the assault weapons ban expired, the government received number of requests for the classification of certain devices that would permit shooters to use semi-automatic rifles to replicate automatic fire, but without converting them into "machine-guns."

Along the way, bump stocks were interpreted as not falling within the definition of machine-gun, so they were legal. But after the Las Vegas mass shooting, the government reconsidered its interpretation of the machine-gun definition and decided that a bump stock fell within the definition of a machine gun.

The court case in question didn't turn on any 2nd amendment arguments. It was a administrative law question regarding the decision to revisit and revise the interpretation of the term machine-gun as applied to bump stocks. In a sense, had the government argued that bumpstocks weren't a "gun" they would have undermined the case for bringing them within the definition of a regulated machine gun.

truthisfreedom

(23,154 posts)
13. This is very simple. No company should be allowed
Mon Oct 3, 2022, 08:25 PM
Oct 2022

To manufacture and sell any device that makes any weapon significantly LESS ACCURATE.

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