NYC Migrants pile into vans they say are headed to Florida for hurricane Ian cleanup

[pnwmom]

Source: NY Post

Scores of Venezuelan migrants in New York City are hopping on vans to head down to Florida for Hurricane Ian clean-up, they told The Post.

The migrants had scant information about whom they would be working for, but they still piled into vans in Queens that they said were headed to the Sunshine State over the weekend.

“They want us for hurricane cleanup, we’d get paid $15 an hour, overtime and $15 for food daily, I think,” said Javier Moreno, 37, noting that a woman named Camila “from an organization” approached him with a flier.

“I’m going for the work. It’s been hard for us migrants to find work here in New York, that’s why a lot of us are going. How’s the work in Florida?”

Read more: https://nypost.com/2022/10/02/nyc-migrants-pile-into-vans-they-say-are-headed-to-florida-for-hurricane-ian-cleanup/

[elleng]

1. NYC migrants

'Scores of Venezuelan migrants in New York City are hopping on vans to head down to Florida for Hurricane Ian clean-up, they told The Post.

The migrants had scant information about whom they would be working for, but they still piled into vans in Queens that they said were headed to the Sunshine State over the weekend.

“They want us for hurricane cleanup, we’d get paid $15 an hour, overtime and $15 for food daily, I think,” said Javier Moreno, 37, noting that a woman named Camila “from an organization” approached him with a flier.

“I’m going for the work. It’s been hard for us migrants to find work here in New York, that’s why a lot of us are going. How’s the work in Florida?”'

[padah513]

2. Isn't that ironic

[Roy Rolling]

34. Ironic But True

Hispanic workers, probably some undocumented, were instrumental in disaster cleanup after Hurricane Katrina. Without migrant disaster workers, clean-up and rebuilding was impossible.

[geardaddy]

3. I see the NY Post is trying to be funny.

Right-wing rag owned by Murdoch.

[Bo Zarts]

12. Channeling Andy Borowitz ..

Weak ..

[geardaddy]

13. Very weak

[machoneman]

4. A NY Post original release. I smell a rat.

Gee, sounds like a reverse of DeSatan/Abbott's recent moves. A lady without portfolio says jobs are ready, hands a flyer out but doesn't say who she works for. Call-me-suspicious of any NYP statements.

[LeftInTX]

9. This actually happens alot

DeSantis got the idea to use Perla based on real life people who do this stuff.

They will "work" for an unknown group, but who knows what will really happen to them.


Some of these are human traffic rings who prey on vulnerable migrants.


They aren't going to be working for FEMA.

[GB_RN]

5. This Doesn't Pass The Smell Test...

N/T

[pnwmom]

8. Why? It sounds exactly like something team Desantis would do. n/t

[GB_RN]

19. Exactly Because Of What You Said...

It's in NYC, and DeathSentence would try and blame NYC for pulling this stunt to take the heat off of himself from the Texas stunt.

The whole thing is fishy.

[LeftInTX]

24. This stuff happens alot..It's in the news because of what happened previously

I found out from one of the shelters here in San Antonio, that people meet migrants at the bus station and lure them away with promises of work. Apparently it happens all the time, but it just never makes the news.

I really don't think DeSantis is involved. There are plenty of opportunists who will have them work and not pay them.


It's illegal to hire asylum seekers prior to them being in the US for (6 months??) Any work they perform is odd jobs and under the table.

It appears to be someone exploiting migrants and someone told the press.

If DeSantis hadn't sent immigrants to MV, this story would not be in the news.

[GB_RN]

31. Gov DeathSentence May Not Be Involved...

But after his MV stunt, I wouldn’t put it past him, either.

[LeftInTX]

32. True..It would be horrible if he brought them down and put them in bad conditions.

I was watching one of his MV pressers. DeSatan says "They were homeless and hungry, so we sent them to a nice sanctuary place. And we will continue to do this until Biden forces them to "Stay in Mexico""

Good grief. How sadistic. He's saying
"Texas sucks"
"Let's send them somewhere nice"
"But we really want them to be homeless and hungry in Mexico".

[GB_RN]

33. With Today's GOPQ...

Cruelty is the point. And the more cruel they can be, the more their base loves it. And these assholes all claim to be good Christians...🙄

[pnwmom]

25. The article isn't blaming NYC. It's saying that the migrants were picked up in NYC.

And that NY didn't know anything about it, and that FL refused to answer any questions.

It sounds to me like Fl has something to hide.

[GB_RN]

30. I Never Claimed That The Article Blamed NYC...

I merely stated that DeathSentence would try to blame NYC for doing the same thing he did. Do you think he’s above trying that, if it would take the heat off of himself? I certainly don’t.

[Rebl2]

22. Nope it doesn't

[intrepidity]

6. Not The Onion? nt

[Bayard]

7. Suspicious

Anyone in FL see a local legit story about this?

[LeftInTX]

10. This actually happens alot

DeSantis got the idea to use Perla based on real life people who do this stuff.

They will "work" for an unknown group, but who knows what will really happen to them.


Some of these are human traffic rings who prey on vulnerable migrants.


They aren't going to be working for FEMA.


Heck, I live in San Antonio and didn't know anything about "Perla". I just recently learned that there are human trafficking rings who prey on migrants at the local greyhound bus station. (Migrants arrive in SA from the border) People meet them at the bus station and offer them "work". This work is often illegal work because asylum seekers cannot legally work for like (6 months??) after they arrive in the US. So, they do odd jobs. Sometimes it's just a temporary odd job, other times it's worse.

It's just on our radar because of what happened with DeSantis.....These stories usually don't make the news.

[pnwmom]

11. Why? NY says they had nothing to do with this, and FL won't answer. That tells me

FL knows something they're not saying.

[asiliveandbreathe]

14. Sure, and all those in attendance at the Tampa Bay vs KC football game are

staying on to volunteer to help cleanup..

[EarthFirst]

15. It's pretty fu*ked up that this is the current state of political satire...

Nothing confirms this; and as mentioned above; a weak effort to Borowitz a true humanitarian travesty that’s being politicized in a very disturbing way…

[LeftInTX]

17. It's not satire...This stuff happens alot. It just doesn't make news

This happens a lot in storm damaged areas: private companies will work these illegal migrants for weeks, then the workers will not get paid. And Americans who would get the work remain jobless, because they would have to be paid.

Sadly, after a natural disaster, the fly-by-night companies suddenly appear to take advantage of the victims. I hope and pray this isn't one of those companies, but I wouldn't be surprised if it is. These immigrants do not have a clue how they can be ripped off. Once they get down there, they may be stuck working as slave labor for these fly-by-night companies.

Migrants are abused like this.

[Farmer-Rick]

16. I don't believe it

I don't trust that rag to tell the truth.

Just cause Desatan sent Perla Huerta to Texas from Tampa to fill the planes illegally with migrant workers, doesn't mean the Post decided to tell the truth for a change. For all we know, the post hired Perla too.

I think this is BS or a stunt. Never trust a snake to not be a snake.

[LeftInTX]

18. This stuff happens alot! It's just in the news because of DeSantis

This happens a lot in storm damaged areas: federal contractors and private companies will work these illegal migrants for weeks, then the workers will not get paid. And Americans who would get the work remain jobless, because they would have to be paid.

It called, "Exploiting"...

May not have anything to do with DeSantis. DeSatan got his idea from this stuff. Sadly it happens every day. People promise migrants work, then don't pay then etc, Migrants are often met at bus stops and lured with promising work.

[Farmer-Rick]

20. It obviously happens at times. W opened the floodgates to it.

But the story is full of BS because the Post is lying.

[LeftInTX]

21. Can you prove that they're lying????

[Farmer-Rick]

26. I don't have the burden of proof. You and I can't prove a negative

The one, who makes the outrages claims has the burden of proof. That would be the Post, and they provide declarations of a more and more convuluted theory without any evidence. Everything in that article could be a lie or staged.

I don't know if something vaguely like that happened. I DO know the Post lies, they lie a lot. So, Based on a known lying source, I think what they wrote is BS.

[LeftInTX]

27. This is not outrageous. This stuff happens a lot

This DU thread didn't consider the whole thing a lie

https://www.democraticunderground.com/100217219049

This terrifies me, based on what I experienced after Katrina in Mississippi.
Migrants were packed into barracks without a/c or heat. The barracks were surrounded by 6ft high chain link fence, topped with barbed wire. Alligators were let loose to patrol the grounds at night. The organization housing them confiscated their IDs (visas, other papers) and would not allow the workers access. They sent the migrants into the most toxic and dangerous sites with little protection, and when their portion of the clean-up was done, they called ICE and had all the workers deported for being undocumented. (Remember, the org had their documents.)

Who is this company that won't answer their phone? How long have they been in business? And how did they recruit these workers? There's a Perla-esque feeling to this development that I find deeply disturbing.

https://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=17219260

[Farmer-Rick]

28. Yeah, a lot of people are conned

Into believing lies every day. Too bad.

You do realize that all the Daily Beast did was quote the Post as their only source. So, one guy lies and the other swears to it.

[LeftInTX]

29. It's called disaster scams and they happen

[Evolve Dammit]

23. Hope they have a lawyer taking notes. Don't want 'em? Now you want 'em. Hmm.