FBI gives evidence to tie militia to Gov. Whitmer plotters

[ificandream]

Source: Associated Press/By ED WHITE

Prosecutors on Friday played secretly recorded audio from a 2020 meeting in the basement of a vacuum shop as they tried to show jurors how a paramilitary group was connected to a plot to kidnap Michigan Gov. Gretchen Whitmer.

It was contemptuous talk about police and politicians in the makeshift home of Adam Fox — who was recently convicted of conspiring to abduct Whitmer — as a step toward kicking off a U.S. civil war, known to extremists as the “boogaloo.” The FBI intervened in the fall of 2020.

Joe Morrison, Paul Bellar and Pete Musico, members of a group called the Wolverine Watchmen, are charged with providing material support to Fox and others, though they’re not accused of directly participating in the kidnapping scheme.

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“I like how you guys roll, man,” Fox said at the Vac Shack, according to the audio recorded by an FBI informant.

Read more: https://apnews.com/article/michigan-gretchen-whitmer-jackson-kidnapping-adam-fox-9525df60e4b0271ab04e3452e1f63240?utm_source=homepage&utm_medium=TopNews&utm_campaign=position_09

[pwb]

1. A handful of freaks are news now?

A P use to be better than that.

[ificandream]

2. I worked at a newspaper for over 30 years. It's news.

[FredGarvin]

3. These werent "a handful of freaks"

Their intent was to kidnap and kill The Governor of The State of Michigan,

[pwb]

4. Three people are mentioned.

Working in a basement.

[FredGarvin]

7. So did Osama Bin Laden

and your point is?

[pwb]

10. Why sensationalize a small group

is my thought on this. It reminds me of the female woman haters club.

[FredGarvin]

11. Charlie Manson and his family would agree with you

[pwb]

13. I don't care who you think agrees with me.

We discuss here and I feel this is a stretch for news.

[blm]

16. pwb, I gave you more information on the group

in my earlier post. I hope you read it and realize there is a lot more to this group of 3 who intended to kidnap and kill a Dem Governor. These are not benign bit players. This group has a body count.

[pwb]

17. I did read it.

Thank you.

[blm]

12. It's not a small, local group, it's national

And it was responsible for the murders of law enforcement officers during the Floyd protests hoping BLM would be blamed.

https://www.latimes.com/california/story/2020-06-17/far-right-boogaloo-boys-linked-to-killing-of-california-lawmen-other-violence

And committed the worst of the violence during the Minneapolis Floyd protests - again, to blame BLM.

https://thehill.com/homenews/news/522509-feds-say-far-right-group-coordinated-attack-on-minneapolis-police-precinct/

[FredGarvin]

15. DU has some really odd postsers

Really strange opinions at times

[muriel_volestrangler]

14. You're comparing a comic strip to a plot to kidnap and maybe kill a governor?

Unbelievable. Are your posts meant to be performance art or something?

[muriel_volestrangler]

8. "working in a basement" seems a massive red herring

designed to minimise the story. They are accused of plotting to support the kidnap of a governor. I'm unaware of an "it's OK if you're in a basement" rule in American law. Or is it that you think that 3 people being accused somehow makes it trivial? Would it only be newsworthy if 2 people were accused? or 4?

[Alexander Of Assyria]

20. Apparently it was a meeting in a vacuum store basement, makeshift home of one of the plotters.

[ificandream]

5. Thank you.

[Evolve Dammit]

21. Spot On. Welcome!

[Alexander Of Assyria]

18. Insurrectionist plotting and political kidnapping are news to me!

[TigressDem]

25. You don't get it. Anarchy aims to destroy rule of law, but lots of splinter groups.

These tiny operations are part of a bigger picture with Boogaloo or Civil War as the goal.

AND at any rate - the dumb F***s tried to kidnap and kill a Governor.

That they get consequences for their actions is news because it is a deterrent for others who might think they can get away with it.

It isn't to sensationalize their wrongdoing, but to show that breaking the law has consequences.

[FredGarvin]

6. These clowns are about to experience real prison

Brutality 24/7/365.
Beatings, sex assaults, murder.
Suicide is the best exit for many

[bluestarone]

9. Hell, in my mind you can throw in 170 active members of the House, plus i'm not really sure how many

SENATORS were involved! Almost pulled it off, BUT they are actively continuing to succeed in this very same illegal activity!!

[Ford_Prefect]

19. Dangerous people with bad attitudes and an obsession with weapons...And faith in TLG.

This is part of a much larger pattern of violent behavior set off by Trump and the RW echo chamber. They see themselves as heroes saving America but they have no idea what America really is.
They are sick individuals who have been cultivated and groomed to extremism and racist hate by the RW.

[Evolve Dammit]

22. Yes that is all true, claiming themselves as "Patriots" and not having a clue. Propagandized. nt

[Genki Hikari]

23. Well, plenty of the old Soviet bloc nations called themselves

"Republics" and "Democratic Republics."

They could say it all day and twice on Sunday, but that didn't make it so.

Same thing with any r claiming to be a patriot.

The actual number who are patriots? ZERO.

Never have been. Never will be.

[onetexan]

26. Agree. It all comes down to ignorance & a culture awash with lack of diversity

In thought, exposure, environment, education.

[Ford_Prefect]

27. An outcome engineered by the same nasty minds and dark money who brought us

Ronald Regan, W Bush, both gulf wars, DJT, and the forever war now fought in Africa and elsewhere.

[Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin]

24. K&R