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Fri Oct 14, 2022, 09:15 AM

Texas sheriff certifies the Martha's Vineyard migrants are crime victims,open the door for spec visa

Source: wgbh

A Texas sheriff has certified that the nearly 50 migrants flown to Martha’s Vineyard by Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis were victims of a crime. That certification is a key step in qualifying them for a special visa they would not have otherwise been eligible for.

Read more: https://www.wgbh.org/news/local-news/2022/10/13/texas-sheriff-certifies-the-marthas-vineyard-migrants-are-crime-victims-opening-the-door-for-special-visas



What a great guy that De Santis is! Willing to spend over a $100,000 of state covid funds per migrant to get them citizenship!

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Reply Texas sheriff certifies the Martha's Vineyard migrants are crime victims,open the door for spec visa (Original post)
catsudon Oct 2022 OP
NCjack Oct 2022 #1
liberalla Oct 2022 #24
Bayard Oct 2022 #2
NorCalBlue Oct 2022 #3
ificandream Oct 2022 #17
lostnfound Oct 2022 #4
Marthe48 Oct 2022 #5
CaptainTruth Oct 2022 #7
sybylla Oct 2022 #23
lostnfound Oct 2022 #25
lostnfound Oct 2022 #26
70sEraVet Oct 2022 #6
CaptainTruth Oct 2022 #8
70sEraVet Oct 2022 #12
CaptainTruth Oct 2022 #15
keithbvadu2 Oct 2022 #9
grumpyduck Oct 2022 #13
LeftInTX Oct 2022 #14
grumpyduck Oct 2022 #20
LeftInTX Oct 2022 #21
onetexan Oct 2022 #10
ificandream Oct 2022 #16
LeftInTX Oct 2022 #19
Lonestarblue Oct 2022 #11
LeftInTX Oct 2022 #22
ificandream Oct 2022 #18
CTyankee Oct 2022 #27
Brainfodder Oct 2022 #28

Response to catsudon (Original post)

Fri Oct 14, 2022, 09:19 AM

1. With likely settlement money they will receive, they will be able to get

some nice places in FLORIDA.

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Response to NCjack (Reply #1)

Fri Oct 14, 2022, 02:29 PM

24. I wouldn't want to stay in Florida!

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Response to catsudon (Original post)

Fri Oct 14, 2022, 09:37 AM

2. A crime committed against them

In THIS country. Unbelievable!

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Response to catsudon (Original post)

Fri Oct 14, 2022, 09:40 AM

3. That means there is an active criminal investigation!

Hallelujah!

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Response to NorCalBlue (Reply #3)

Fri Oct 14, 2022, 12:16 PM

17. My thinking, too. If we weren't so corrupt, I'd say there's a chance of nailing DeSatanis.

Hope I'm wrong about that.

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Response to catsudon (Original post)

Fri Oct 14, 2022, 10:07 AM

4. U-visa does not equal citizenship. Valid for 4 years. Nt

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Response to lostnfound (Reply #4)

Fri Oct 14, 2022, 10:21 AM

5. Even so

It is buying the refugees time. Maybe things will settle down in their home countries in 4 years. Maybe things will settle down in our country in 4 years.

And I'm glad that the cruel intentions blew up in the fascists' faces

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Response to lostnfound (Reply #4)

Fri Oct 14, 2022, 10:54 AM

7. And eligible to apply for a green card in 3 years.

Compared to the normal immigration process, which I went through with my wife, this makes it easier for them to become a lawful permanent resident.

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Response to CaptainTruth (Reply #7)

Fri Oct 14, 2022, 01:26 PM

23. Yep. And they can bring their family here, too for the duration.

IIRC, the family also qualifies for special visas and green cards.

This what I learned at a labor trafficking and human trafficking seminar in 2019 while I volunteered for an organization that may have clients who are victims.

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Response to sybylla (Reply #23)

Sun Oct 16, 2022, 09:35 AM

25. That's so nice that you did that.

I generally lean toward open immigration policies, the current “process” is cruel and absurd.

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Response to CaptainTruth (Reply #7)

Sun Oct 16, 2022, 09:36 AM

26. The current immigration process is horrendous; glad you made it. Nt

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Response to catsudon (Original post)

Fri Oct 14, 2022, 10:52 AM

6. A felony would make DeSantis ineligible for President?

Would it be a felony conviction either for misappropriation of federal funds or for transporting migrants under false pretenses?

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Response to 70sEraVet (Reply #6)

Fri Oct 14, 2022, 11:00 AM

8. I wish, but no, being convicted of a felony does not disqualify someone from holding office.

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Response to CaptainTruth (Reply #8)

Fri Oct 14, 2022, 11:14 AM

12. Yep, Captain, you're right. I just checked.

Yet, in many states, A Presidential candidate who has a felony conviction, would not be able to VOTE for himself/herself! Right?

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Response to 70sEraVet (Reply #12)

Fri Oct 14, 2022, 12:10 PM

15. It varies by state. Some states restore voting rights after the sentence is served.

In other states the person has to petition the govt to have their voting rights restored.

But I think in most (maybe all?) states a convicted felon can't vote while they're serving their sentence. I'm not an expert on that though.

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Response to catsudon (Original post)

Fri Oct 14, 2022, 11:03 AM

9. There was some comment about transporting undocumented immigrants being a crime.

There was some comment about transporting undocumented immigrants being a crime.

Not sure how that works out.

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Response to keithbvadu2 (Reply #9)

Fri Oct 14, 2022, 11:50 AM

13. If they were transported across state lines,

that would be a federal crime, wouldn't it?

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Response to grumpyduck (Reply #13)

Fri Oct 14, 2022, 11:58 AM

14. No..they are free to travel..They travel by bus all the time.

These are asylum seekers who are here "legally", but their status is temporary until they have been granted asylum. (Legally in that they have been processed by ICE and are now free to travel, however, they are required to attend their scheduled asylum hearings. At the hearings they will then determine whether asylum should be granted. The process can take a long time.)

The crime would have been that they were taken to a different place than they had been promised.

Keep in mind, this isn't as much criminality of DeSantis as it is of their rights because a crime had been committed.

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Response to LeftInTX (Reply #14)

Fri Oct 14, 2022, 12:33 PM

20. Ok, but if a crime was committed,

then someone committed it, no?

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Response to grumpyduck (Reply #20)

Fri Oct 14, 2022, 12:40 PM

21. We don't always catch and/or prosecute criminals

In this case, the crook is Perla Huerta. (Local crime. He is the sheriff, he's not the FBI or a federal prosecutor or a prosecutor)

Being able to prosecute and being offered a special Visa because one is a victim of a crime are two separate issues. Apparently, the laws allow law enforcement to indicate if someone is a victim of a crime. However, no one has been charged, not locally or federally.

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Response to catsudon (Original post)

Fri Oct 14, 2022, 11:12 AM

10. Brave sheriff with a stiff backbone & compassion, one of the few good ones in TX.

. I hope he has extra security detail.

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Response to onetexan (Reply #10)

Fri Oct 14, 2022, 12:11 PM

16. Wonder how long he'll last in office.

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Response to ificandream (Reply #16)

Fri Oct 14, 2022, 12:30 PM

19. He's elected and gets about 60% of the vote

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Response to catsudon (Original post)

Fri Oct 14, 2022, 11:13 AM

11. Someone should investigate Abbott's promises to migrants he's been busing to northern cities.

Has he also falsely promised them jobs that don’t exist and places to stay?

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Response to Lonestarblue (Reply #11)

Fri Oct 14, 2022, 12:46 PM

22. They should

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Response to catsudon (Original post)

Fri Oct 14, 2022, 12:28 PM

18. I think this story is a lot bigger than it's being made so far.

The fact that DeSatanis is being investigated for this could hopefully mean something is in the works.

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Response to ificandream (Reply #18)

Mon Oct 17, 2022, 10:54 AM

27. This guy Desantis is smart and dangerous. He needs to be STOPPED in his tracks on this ploy.

He is coldly and arrogantly playing to the most base and cruel elements of the repuke party, thinking he can parlay this type of arrogance into furthering his career. I think he wants to take over the GOP. He's smart and clever. WATCH HIM CAREFULLY!

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Response to catsudon (Original post)

Mon Oct 17, 2022, 11:55 AM

28. A special visa doesn't mean citizenship, sorry, if it was that easy, imagining major malarkey.

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