Karl Rove Defends His $300 Million Disaster...
Source: Talking Points Memo
Karl Rove boasted on the eve of Tuesdays election that all signs pointed towards an electoral college landslide. He was right about the result, just wrong about the candidate. And now its up to Rove to explain to donors why, after blowing through $300 million of their money, President Obama is still President Obama and Harry Reid still runs the Senate.
Judging by Roves election night tantrum on Fox News, this was not a situation he was well prepared for. In a surreal stretch of television, he refused to believe the networks call of Ohio, lashed out at producers for making it, then spouted a blizzard of county by county statistics to justify his increasingly untenable case.
Is this just math that you do as a Republican to make yourself feel better? Fox host Megyn Kelly asked at one point, Or is this real?...
...Two days later, Rove started the hard work of explaining why the Democrats were simply too much for any one billionaire-funded super PAC to handle...
Read more: http://2012.talkingpointsmemo.com/2012/11/karl-rove-offers-long-list-of-excuses-after-300-million-debacle.php
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- Mother Nature: Hurricane Sandy interrupted Mr. Romneys momentum and allowed Mr. Obama to look presidential and bipartisan. Rove telegraphed this argument even before election day, but the fact remains that theres almost no polling evidence at all for it. Obamas swing state lead had stabilized well before the storm hit.
- Editors: Then there was the anonymous New York Times headline writer who affixed Let Detroit Go Bankrupt to Mr. Romneys November 2008 op-ed on reorganizing the auto companies, which the Obama campaign brought up again and again in the industrial Midwest. The president made it appear that Mr. Romney favored liquidation of the companies (which he did not), instead of an orderly reorganization (which he did).
- The Hired Help: A hotel employee with a cellphone camera taped Mr. Romney talking at a May fundraiser about the 47% of the population that do not have any federal income-tax liability. When released in September, the video added to public doubts about Mr. Romneys wealth and character.
- Dirty Tricks: Rove told Fox that Obama won by suppressing the vote. Not by, say, imposing voting restrictions that disproportionately affect certain demographics, but by running mean ads about Bain Capital...
- Mitt Romney: Rove said the Republican nominee ran a valiant race, but suggested that the failure to rebut the Bain attacks was exclusively a Romney issue. We dont do defense all that well, he said. Its better to have the candidate (respond).
trublu992
(489 posts)Don't you ever for one split second let reality or common sense or math get in your way Stay Strong Karl we'll keep kicking you ass in elections for half the price!
Xipe Totec
(44,064 posts)Fuck off!
UTUSN
(72,475 posts)********QUOTE********
@realDonaldTrump
Congrats to @KarlRove on blowing $400 million this cycle. Every race @CrossroadsGPS ran ads in, the Republicans lost. What a waste of money.
*******UNQUOTE******
wordpix
(18,652 posts)I love it!
BlueMan Votes
(903 posts)they will analyze every atom of how the Obama team did it all, and copy(well...TRY to copy) the strategeries for themselves.
Indi Guy
(3,992 posts)...than what they tried this cycle.
Just watch out for the influence of Super PAC money in state & local politics.
dothemath
(345 posts)Granted, they may try. I suspect their version of a 'ground game' will be more of the same kind of strategy (?) that failed them this time. It will be more like "we will tell you how to vote and if you don't agree, it is because you are a socialist-loving, freedom-hating, abortion loving, parasite that refuses to believe our way or the highway is the ONLY way to proceed. Be gone with you.
If they could have gotten just a billion or two more from a handful of the filthy rich people they love so much, they could have bought this election. Not every one of the repubs were 100% confident, though, and tried to set Florida up to allow the supremes to appoint Romney just as they did in 2000 with Bush.
NYC Liberal
(20,347 posts)They are blaming their losss(es) on everyone and everything but themselves and their strategy. Their one critique of themselves is that their candidate wasn't right-wing enough! Talk about not getting it.
The Wielding Truth
(11,422 posts)dothemath
(345 posts)Next time, maybe the billionaires will throw their cash behind a cabbage to be the 'brain'. The result will be the same and they will blame their own 'chosen' candidate. A pox on them.
The Wielding Truth
(11,422 posts)closeupready
(29,503 posts)I mean, obviously, I'm going to relish when we win, but how can even the most objective observer look at that number, look at what a failure he was, and not just go, "wow. Total waste of money. Total."
Daniel537
(1,560 posts)Indi Guy
(3,992 posts)They're rarely good with other peoples' money.
HooptieWagon
(17,064 posts)Reagan, W...
SoapBox
(18,791 posts)It's SO weird, that America believes these wild spenders, to be good with budgets and money.
yardwork
(64,444 posts)Well said.
wordpix
(18,652 posts)you can bet we'd have another BushCheney size economic disaster
SDjack
(1,448 posts)increase their prices on products and services, and the 47% will pay for all of those ads demanding that we vote for Rmoney and GOP, against our own interests. That's right, we the 47% funded both sides of the election. Remember all of those Romney ads, we the 47% paid for those. Now, isn't that good enough reason to have controlled public financing?
The only guy who paid nothing is Rmoney. He contributed $0 to his own campaign.
bitchkitty
(7,349 posts)though - that was priceless.
SDjack
(1,448 posts)Maeve
(42,979 posts)Dubster
(427 posts)lovuian
(19,362 posts)and money and the Republican propaganda machine
failed
they created the Tea Party and it destroyed the Republican Party
Indi Guy
(3,992 posts)It appears that Rove himself was responsible for over $300 million. And yes, the Tea Party was the best self defeating apparatus that money can buy -- well done.
Hopefully some of the adults in the GOP will come forward and go to work with Obama.
no_hypocrisy
(48,910 posts)Sue Rove for negligence with punitive damages. Get your money back (if you can . . . . )
Sarah Ibarruri
(21,043 posts)Indi Guy
(3,992 posts)Sarah Ibarruri
(21,043 posts)Jim__
(14,464 posts)aquart
(69,014 posts)It's special that way.
Warpy
(113,131 posts)"If only we could prevent everybody but white male landowners from voting, we'd have our country back!!"
It's never their fault, their dogma didn't fail, and they never made a mistake in their lives.
Somehow I don't think the gang of billionaire fascists is going to buy this one. The only thing that remains is for Fat Karl to find a good retirement spot where he can write poisonous books for the rest of his wasted, rotten life.
Indi Guy
(3,992 posts)...Obama won by suppressing the vote. Not by, say, imposing voting restrictions that disproportionately affect certain demographics, but by running mean ads about Bain Capital...
Hey Karl -- Remember how you slimed John Kerry's & Max Cleland's war records??? I'm glad I lived long enough to see you get the fuzzy side of the lollypop for a change.
Doremus
(7,265 posts)Kkkarl sure does sound like he was coordinating with Willard's campaign. (He actually makes it sound like he was RUNNING it.) I thought that was illegal? Not that that makes a difference, as we all know he's above the law.
dixiegrrrrl
(60,011 posts)He has always played the role of the man behind the throne.
This time, he had 2 super pacs, Crossroads something or another, I forgot the name already.
But no doubt in my mind he was running it.
Rove gained Republican attention and Democrat infamy for stealing the election for Bush.
He is very good at counting votes and coming up with dirty tricks, and wise enough not to leave his fingerprints on them.
He had a lot to do with Attorney Gate and Don siegleman's arrest and trials here in Alabama.
His Achille's heel is he fell in love with his own numbers and refused to accept the reality of why anyone would vote against a rich, entitled, racist prick.
Rove's bubble finally burst.
Indi Guy
(3,992 posts)Checkout these links to see where much of the PAC money went:
http://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=American+Crossroads&oq=American+Crossroads&gs_l=youtube-reduced.12..0l4.13558.13558.0.14792.1.1.0.0.0.0.85.85.1.1.0...0.0...1ac.2.MDTadbhwB3Q
and
http://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=Crossroads+gps&oq=Crossroads+gps&gs_l=youtube.12...0.0.0.3931.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0..0.0...0.0...1ac.
This ad is still up on the AC site:
wordpix
(18,652 posts)If he were not coordinating, he would have said something like, "It's not my job to respond to attacks on Romney's days at Bain."
jpak
(41,780 posts)Someone should sue him.
Yup
Cha
(305,494 posts)"mitt ran a valient race"?! No Mention of mittLIES.. And, no TAX RETURNS! How'd that work out for them? Oh, they would have lost Bigger if he'd have released them, you say, Karl? Oh, that's too DAMN BAD.
LET DETROIT GO BANKRUPT Didn't Mr Stupidhead Double Down on that before he Switched and tried to take Credit for The Car Industries' Recovery?
What about the Jeep Ad, Karl? Ralph Gilles tweeting mitt he was full of Shit? Not bringing that up? Why not? Even David Mediawhore Gregory was after gops on that little freaking LIE.
BREMPRO
(2,331 posts)how is this an explanation for Obama's victory as much as your utter incompetence for not factoring in these things? eh? i don't see any mention of demographics, legitimate rape, Obama's superior GOTV, Rmoneys Failed "ORCA"...
LoSER!!
how does it feel to be the most hated, mocked man in America?
tomm2thumbs
(13,297 posts)His heart will probably give out before the next election from the looks of him however.
(yes, I know... what heart)
<g>
6000eliot
(5,643 posts)McCamy Taylor
(19,240 posts)prolonged and painful primary---I kept my mouth shut and watched in quiet amusement. But now that it is over, I don't have to be quite anymore. So, this is for Turd Blossom and the Koch Brothers and Sheldon "The Pimp" Adelson:
Indi Guy
(3,992 posts).... (Americans For Prosperity) is now more like America's Funniest Profligates.
underpants
(186,836 posts)When someone like Romney submits an op-ed to the NY Times or any paper they don't just drop it off like it is a paper slid under a professors door.
Romney types negotiate before and after on the op-ed.
I had never heard this before but it probably already legend and lore for the Fox News believers.
Historic NY
(37,910 posts)with the software rigging and the SOS statements as to why he went home....lots of questions what was rove attempting to achieve.
EmeraldCityGrl
(4,310 posts)As long as Rove was in the right place at the right time he could ride the coattails
of the rich and powerful RW political machine. Once he was totally on his own to
"make it happen" he has proven to be a fraud, a talentless, big mouth excuse maker.
Sunlei
(22,651 posts)wordpix
(18,652 posts)DCBob
(24,689 posts)I suspect Romney was fine with the title at the time. But the title was not the worst.. it was the first paragraph...
"IF General Motors, Ford and Chrysler get the bailout that their chief executives asked for yesterday, you can kiss the American automotive industry goodbye. It wont go overnight, but its demise will be virtually guaranteed."
Romney and the vast majority of the GOP opposed the bailout.. there were no ifs, ands, buts about it.
Indi Guy
(3,992 posts)...getting the federal government into the auto manufacturing business.
DCBob
(24,689 posts)We dont hear those ignorant derisive terms anymore.
ZombieHorde
(29,047 posts)GliderGuider
(21,088 posts)Endless hours of hilarity ensue.
Liberal_in_LA
(44,397 posts)patrice
(47,992 posts)Oh, and did I mention EXPENSIVE?
patrice
(47,992 posts)DollarBillHines
(1,922 posts)Hopefully, it will disappear beneath the waves never to be seen again.