'He Has Expressed No Remorse': Former Trump Strategist Steve Bannon Sentenced to Four Months in Jail
Source: Law and Crime
He Has Expressed No Remorse: Former Trump Strategist Steve Bannon Sentenced to Four Months in Jail for Contempt of Congress
Former President Donald Trumps ex-chief strategist Steve Bannon received a four-month sentence on Friday for contempt of Congress.
Respect for Congress is of course an important piece of our Constitutional system, U.S. District Judge Carl J. Nichols, a Trump appointee, noted, also imposing a $6,500 fine.
Earlier in the proceedings, Nichols said of Bannon: He has expressed no remorse for his actions.
Bannon, for his part, declined to speak in court.
Read more: https://lawandcrime.com/jan-6-committee/he-has-expressed-no-remorse-former-trump-strategist-steve-bannon-sentenced-to-four-months-in-jail-for-contempt-of-congress/
hlthe2b
(113,965 posts)SheltieLover
(80,454 posts)Can't offend those who are:
Caucasian
With a penis
And money.
live love laugh
(16,383 posts)swag
(26,572 posts)Ponietz
(4,330 posts)Releasing him on bail pending appeal is a professional courtesy not afforded to other defendants. Appeal what? The guy was found to be in contempt. Open, shut, cut, dry. Contemptuous persons go to jail immediately upon conviction in a nation of laws.
FBaggins
(28,706 posts)And, no, other defendants in a similar situation would get exactly the same treatment.
Appeals take months (by which time the sentence will have been served). No judge would effectively remove the right to appeal a conviction (and if one tried, the court above would smack them down).
Hortensis
(58,785 posts)can also vary according to such things as the type of offence and length of sentence -- and state law. Some states don't allow it at all.
Ponietz, I want the guy locked away until he's so old he thinks cell phones are something to eat. For the good of society. But the crime he was charged with is a misdemeanor, with maximum sentence of a year, qualifying for release pending appeal In accordance with the law.
In a year or so he'll go on trial in NY state for defrauding donors to his wall scam, money laundering, etc, and tRump can't pardon him this time.
Ponietz
(4,330 posts)a misdemeanor for aiding and abetting traitors.
Hortensis
(58,785 posts)That's not the same as the most passionately right (!) people yelling "lock her or him up" getting their way.
Is this all we need in this situation? No. But at least it is our legal system working for what it was designed. Obviously, it is not up to the task of dealing with the NEW massive, widespread misuse of the legal system itself to corrupt government funtions and even take whole nations over.
Btw, that's a new thing in nations around the planet, not just ours. Illegal means, like violence, fail more often than they succeed, but the bad guys have learned that subverting governments "legally" is successful far more often.
Another example of it here is the antidemocracy 2016 attempt to get the Democratic Party superdelegates to give the presidential nomination to the candidate who lost (!) the popular vote. Significantly, it failed spectacularly because it took place within the Democratic Party -- The role of Democratic superdelegates is to PROTECT Democratic Party elections from illicit, unrepresentative maneuvers, and they did, unanimously (except for the losing candidate, who was also a superdelegate).
This is about what's going on:
Todays authoritarians use legal measures to subvert constitutional constraints on their power.
https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2020/03/new-authoritarianism/607045/
Ponietz
(4,330 posts)FBaggins was flat wrong about criminal appellate law.
The traitors have shielded themselves to large degree from meaningful consequences with their Wrays, Cannons, etc.
Only a fraction, minuscule, remain free on bail pending appeal. They must show a colorable appellate issue first to the trial judge. The publics right to peace and order supercede a defendants rights following conviction. Otherwise, all those J6 fools would still be loose.
Hortensis
(58,785 posts)These scoundrels are giving us a master course on where the law needs to be tightened up. I frankly dont know if that would change this handling or not. Except that longer sentences for seditious behaviors and laws that enable them to be prosecuted properly are clearly called for.
Ive always felt that public servants should be afraid to cross the electorate and that punishment should be proportional to the great potential harm to society and betrayal of duty.
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Ponietz
(4,330 posts)and no constitutional right to release pending appeal exists. There is no legitimate appellate issue here. Professional courtesy when a D cant even produce a meritorious issue for appeal.
FBaggins
(28,706 posts)Perhaps you're aware of a conviction that they hadn't heard of?
no constitutional right to release pending appeal exists.
I have no idea why you think there would need to be. It's simply the normal process. A court that tries to effectively moot an appeal by requiring a sentence that will end before the higher court can hear the appeal is going to get overturned. If it were a violent offense that would be different... but a nonviolent misdemeanor is not going to result in being held pending appeal.
But feel free to cite some contrary examples since you think anyone else would get different treatment.
There is no legitimate appellate issue here.
That isn't how the law works.
Ponietz
(4,330 posts)The vast majority of convicted defendants in my state start their sentence. A Defendant must show a legitimate appellate issue to continue on bail following conviction. You are wrong. Google is there a constitutional right to release pending appeal and get back to me. Or not.
[https://www.google.com/search?q=is%20there%20a%20constitutional%20right%20to%20release%20pending%20appeal&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&client=firefox-b-1-m|
underpants
(196,495 posts)The fine seems light but okay. As long as he actually does time Im fine with that.
Bayard
(29,684 posts)AZSkiffyGeek
(12,744 posts)It's a slap on the wrist! Anyone can do that standing on their heads! It's Club Fed!
maxsolomon
(38,724 posts)Rehabilitation?
Bayard
(29,684 posts)But maybe he'll have MAGAt bodyguards.
maxsolomon
(38,724 posts)Physical assault.
Never change, DU!
former9thward
(33,424 posts)LisaM
(29,634 posts)I like how she decided not to waste time on appeals and just went and did her time. I can't see Bannon coming out of jail rocking a poncho his fellow inmates made him out of good will, much less being 20 pounds thinner.
dchill
(42,660 posts)Saving it for the podcast? Bye, Steve.
MLAA
(19,745 posts)The lack of access to Twitter, radio, podcastset al to pontificate will hurt more than anything I expect.
calimary
(90,020 posts)MLAA
(19,745 posts)larrymoeT
(24 posts)Looks like contempt of court isn't a big deal to our justice system.
comradebillyboy
(10,955 posts)GB_RN
(3,560 posts)Letting him out while he appeals is a privilege that only those with money get, too.
Hopefully, NY State will get to his fraud trial soon. If convicted there, he will face major jail time.
ETA: if the Wikipedia page doesnt cut it for you, heres the relevant information from Findlaw:
Penalties for violations (a misdemeanor) include a fine of up to $100,000 and a jail term of one to 12 months, which requires prosecution by the Department of Justice (DOJ) or the U.S. Attorney's Office for the District of Columbia.
getagrip_already
(17,802 posts)But I get it. He should have gotten the doj rec at the very least. And $6500 doesn't even court costs.
It should be a lot harsher, but it could have been a lot lighter also.
BumRushDaShow
(169,753 posts)"Congress" is NOT a "court". This is for "Contempt of Congress".
JohnSJ
(98,883 posts)FakeNoose
(41,632 posts)Take away his megaphone and that guy can stay out of jail, for all I care. He does more damage talking to the MAGAts on his podcast. The judge should have shut him down indefinitely, and it would have been a fair sentence.
FBaggins
(28,706 posts)I don't mean one in which this guy loses his audience... I mean one in which a judge can remove someone's free speech rights because of an unrelated misdemeanor?
There are far too many MAGA judges out there for me to be comfortable giving judges that power.
slightlv
(7,790 posts)they'll do it to us if they get back in power... law or no law? You've got much higher hopes for these people governing than I do.
FBaggins
(28,706 posts)The "in power" that you're talking about already exists.
FakeNoose
(41,632 posts)... I hope Chump never gets the idea to have his own podcast.
FBaggins
(28,706 posts)But neither of us is the US Government.
There would be no problem with whoever produced or markets or buys his podcast from deciding to back out of that relationship - but no court can order it as punishment for something unrelated.
jmowreader
(53,194 posts)You know theyre not going to let him set up a podcast studio in jail.
yaesu
(9,328 posts)Mopar151
(10,348 posts)Or microphones, or TV cameras! They got any Federal lockups in West by God Virginia?
Aerator
(189 posts)gab13by13
(32,321 posts)Wicked Blue
(8,867 posts)Marthe48
(23,175 posts)judge would probably let him off with a warning.
But bannon would have lo$t $ome of hi$ follower$, and he relie$ on them for hi$ income.
fightforfreedom
(4,913 posts)This is just the beginning of what is coming Stinky Mans way. He is facing a trial in NY for serious felonies.
EndlessWire
(8,103 posts)For lying to the FBI on insider trading, Martha got:
"The conviction resulted in a five-month prison sentence, followed by five months of house arrest and two years of probation. Stewart maintained she was innocent but was confined to the minimum security Alderson Federal Prison Camp, West Virginia in October 2004." She was also fined $30,000. That was more back then than $6,500 today.
So, he got off easy. Not sure why contempt of Congress is worth less than insider trading. I think he has some kind of moral victory here, despite two counts of despicable behavior. And, he's out for Midterms.
Alien Life Form
(370 posts)Bannon and Trump are both making threats.. He is what Bannon said after the sentencing..
On Nov. 8, on Nov. 8, theres going to (be) judgment on the illegitimate Biden regime
and quite frankly, Nancy Pelosi and the entire (House Jan. 6) committee, he added.
Bannon said voters are weighing and measuring the Justice Department and committee members actions, and they will vote on Nov. 8.
will ever serve any time.
bearsfootball516
(6,713 posts)That will go by in the blink of an eye.
grantcart
(53,061 posts)ancianita
(43,307 posts)Anything he gets won't be enough. So fuck Bannon forever.
SergeStorms
(20,591 posts)an epiphany from Mr. Bannon while he serves his time (if he serves any time at all), but hope in one hand and shit in the other, then see which hand fills up first.
calimary
(90,020 posts)Considering the kind of individual were talking about, Id expect nothing but the worst of him. Whichever way hed react and then respond, Id expect it to be the bad way.
Four short months would do nothing but confirm and solidify his sense of righteous indignation and its companion, the wish or determination to punish, to seek and implement revenge.
Id say itd harden his heart if he had one.
SergeStorms
(20,591 posts)You hit the nail on the head there!
Bannon is one soulless asshole. Are some people just born pure evil, or is it learned behavior? 🤔 I think Bannon was born evil, then dedicated his life to perfecting his "craft".
Pepsidog
(6,365 posts)malthaussen
(18,567 posts)And then brag about how tough I was.
-- Mal
Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin
(135,713 posts)FredGarvin
(846 posts)Sadly
Mysterian
(6,484 posts)Interesting. Do you have any particular facts to back up that theory?
FredGarvin
(846 posts)Bannon isnt going to jail.
He is going to raise millions of dollars with his social media accounts with this decision.
The dude has nothing to worry about.
A huge win for him and his friends.
Joinfortmill
(21,163 posts)There will be more coming out about this traitor.
FredGarvin
(846 posts)Midnight Writer
(25,410 posts)Turbineguy
(40,074 posts)Initech
(108,783 posts)WVreaper
(675 posts)Bend over darling!
Evolve Dammit
(21,774 posts)msfiddlestix
(8,178 posts)'comrades' is likely going to be the reality we need to accept down the road of appeal(s).
and that reality likely includes the ONE we really want to see behind bars for life.
Brainfodder
(7,781 posts)Priceless though if he dies there.