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swag

(26,572 posts)
Fri Oct 21, 2022, 11:03 AM Oct 2022

'He Has Expressed No Remorse': Former Trump Strategist Steve Bannon Sentenced to Four Months in Jail

Source: Law and Crime

‘He Has Expressed No Remorse’: Former Trump Strategist Steve Bannon Sentenced to Four Months in Jail for Contempt of Congress



Former President Donald Trump’s ex-chief strategist Steve Bannon received a four-month sentence on Friday for contempt of Congress.

“Respect for Congress is of course an important piece of our Constitutional system,” U.S. District Judge Carl J. Nichols, a Trump appointee, noted, also imposing a $6,500 fine.

Earlier in the proceedings, Nichols said of Bannon: “He has expressed no remorse for his actions.”

Bannon, for his part, declined to speak in court.

Read more: https://lawandcrime.com/jan-6-committee/he-has-expressed-no-remorse-former-trump-strategist-steve-bannon-sentenced-to-four-months-in-jail-for-contempt-of-congress/

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'He Has Expressed No Remorse': Former Trump Strategist Steve Bannon Sentenced to Four Months in Jail (Original Post) swag Oct 2022 OP
Free on appeal, however. Damn. hlthe2b Oct 2022 #1
... William769 Oct 2022 #19
Of course. SheltieLover Oct 2022 #25
It's a beginning... his next crime won't be taken as lightly. live love laugh Oct 2022 #59
Judge Nichols releases Bannon and finds he shouldn't serve his sentence before appeal is resolved swag Oct 2022 #2
The judge didn't have the guts to impose the sentence Ponietz Oct 2022 #11
It doesn't have a thing to do with "guts" FBaggins Oct 2022 #22
Good explanation. Thanks. Whether release is allowed pending appeal Hortensis Oct 2022 #29
A misdemeanor for his role in a treasonous scheme to stage a coup Ponietz Oct 2022 #46
You implied yourself you expect this to be a "nation of laws." Hortensis Oct 2022 #64
I think we're making the same point but Ponietz Oct 2022 #67
I am with you that Bannon is a threat to society. Hortensis Oct 2022 #68
This message was self-deleted by its author jaxexpat Oct 2022 #34
He's a repeat offender Ponietz Oct 2022 #39
He is? The DOJ failed to note that in their sentencing recommendation FBaggins Oct 2022 #47
Strident argument you make Ponietz Oct 2022 #54
I'll take that. underpants Oct 2022 #3
A lot can happen in 4 months in prison...... Bayard Oct 2022 #4
Haven't you heard? AZSkiffyGeek Oct 2022 #7
Like what? maxsolomon Oct 2022 #14
I was thinking more in terms of slipping in the shower Bayard Oct 2022 #60
So, extrajudicial punishment. maxsolomon Oct 2022 #62
Like what? former9thward Oct 2022 #16
Martha Stewart lost weight and got a new poncho pattern. LisaM Oct 2022 #28
"Bannon, for his part, declined to speak in court." dchill Oct 2022 #5
Excellent. That will leave a mark on this traitorous loudmouth. MLAA Oct 2022 #6
It's not NEARLY enough. calimary Oct 2022 #40
True, but it is something. MLAA Oct 2022 #41
Why only 4 months? larrymoeT Oct 2022 #8
Six months is the maximum allowed. comradebillyboy Oct 2022 #9
Each Charge Of Contempt Carries A Max Of... GB_RN Oct 2022 #15
first time offense, non-violent crime, between the min sentence and doj ask...... getagrip_already Oct 2022 #13
"Looks like contempt of court isn't a big deal to our justice system." BumRushDaShow Oct 2022 #66
Depends where he will serve his sentence JohnSJ Oct 2022 #10
It would have been better to shut down his podcast FakeNoose Oct 2022 #12
I get the inclination... but would you want to live in that world? FBaggins Oct 2022 #24
and you don't think slightlv Oct 2022 #26
This judge IS a Trump appointee FBaggins Oct 2022 #27
Well Chump is permanently banned from Twitter so how would that be different? FakeNoose Oct 2022 #58
He's banned from speaking at my house as well FBaggins Oct 2022 #61
The only constitutional way to temporarily shut it down is jail jmowreader Oct 2022 #36
Slap on the wrist country club time. nt yaesu Oct 2022 #17
With NO liquor....... Mopar151 Oct 2022 #52
Any idea how long a appeal will take ? Aerator Oct 2022 #18
Until a Magat becomes president to pardon him again. gab13by13 Oct 2022 #38
Remorse means nothing to a sociopath nt Wicked Blue Oct 2022 #20
If he'd been remorseful Marthe48 Oct 2022 #21
I was hoping for more time, however fightforfreedom Oct 2022 #23
He got off light EndlessWire Oct 2022 #30
Prepare for Civil war Alien Life Form Oct 2022 #31
Doubt he Rebl2 Oct 2022 #32
Glad he's getting time, but 4 months is practically nothing. bearsfootball516 Oct 2022 #33
He still faces major fraud trial in NY grantcart Oct 2022 #43
The public scofflaw will appeal but lose. Still. His punishment will only harden his scofflaw ways. ancianita Oct 2022 #35
We can always hope for.... SergeStorms Oct 2022 #37
Nope. I SERIOUSLY doubt it, with him. calimary Oct 2022 #55
"If he had one". SergeStorms Oct 2022 #57
6 months then. WTF Pepsidog Oct 2022 #42
"He's expressed no remorse, but Ima going to let him off easy anyway." malthaussen Oct 2022 #44
Enjoy your stay Bannon Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Oct 2022 #45
Bannon wont spend a day in jail FredGarvin Oct 2022 #50
So, you think the appeals court will throw out his jail sentence? Mysterian Oct 2022 #70
Another Bannon Fundraiser FredGarvin Oct 2022 #48
Bannon is well educated. He was one of the master minds Joinfortmill Oct 2022 #49
He should be in jail FredGarvin Oct 2022 #51
Susan McDougal. Midnight Writer Oct 2022 #53
People have been shot for less. Turbineguy Oct 2022 #56
What a fucking psychopath. Initech Oct 2022 #63
Here's hoping that you drop your soap in the shower WVreaper Oct 2022 #65
He has achieved his martyrdom he aspired to. Grift on, traitor. n/t Evolve Dammit Oct 2022 #69
I feel so much better, he's not even serving a single hour of incarceration, and that my dear msfiddlestix Oct 2022 #71
Only 4 months is a bit LIGHT! Brainfodder Oct 2022 #72
Four years would have been better Alien Life Form Oct 2022 #73

swag

(26,572 posts)
2. Judge Nichols releases Bannon and finds he shouldn't serve his sentence before appeal is resolved
Fri Oct 21, 2022, 11:05 AM
Oct 2022

Ponietz

(4,330 posts)
11. The judge didn't have the guts to impose the sentence
Fri Oct 21, 2022, 11:14 AM
Oct 2022

Releasing him on bail pending appeal is a professional courtesy not afforded to other defendants. Appeal what? The guy was found to be in contempt. Open, shut, cut, dry. Contemptuous persons go to jail immediately upon conviction in a nation of laws.

FBaggins

(28,706 posts)
22. It doesn't have a thing to do with "guts"
Fri Oct 21, 2022, 11:46 AM
Oct 2022

And, no, other defendants in a similar situation would get exactly the same treatment.

Appeals take months (by which time the sentence will have been served). No judge would effectively remove the right to appeal a conviction (and if one tried, the court above would smack them down).

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
29. Good explanation. Thanks. Whether release is allowed pending appeal
Fri Oct 21, 2022, 12:40 PM
Oct 2022

can also vary according to such things as the type of offence and length of sentence -- and state law. Some states don't allow it at all.

Ponietz, I want the guy locked away until he's so old he thinks cell phones are something to eat. For the good of society. But the crime he was charged with is a misdemeanor, with maximum sentence of a year, qualifying for release pending appeal In accordance with the law.

In a year or so he'll go on trial in NY state for defrauding donors to his wall scam, money laundering, etc, and tRump can't pardon him this time.

Ponietz

(4,330 posts)
46. A misdemeanor for his role in a treasonous scheme to stage a coup
Fri Oct 21, 2022, 01:44 PM
Oct 2022

a misdemeanor for aiding and abetting traitors.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
64. You implied yourself you expect this to be a "nation of laws."
Fri Oct 21, 2022, 06:42 PM
Oct 2022

That's not the same as the most passionately right (!) people yelling "lock her or him up" getting their way.

Is this all we need in this situation? No. But at least it is our legal system working for what it was designed. Obviously, it is not up to the task of dealing with the NEW massive, widespread misuse of the legal system itself to corrupt government funtions and even take whole nations over.

Btw, that's a new thing in nations around the planet, not just ours. Illegal means, like violence, fail more often than they succeed, but the bad guys have learned that subverting governments "legally" is successful far more often.

Another example of it here is the antidemocracy 2016 attempt to get the Democratic Party superdelegates to give the presidential nomination to the candidate who lost (!) the popular vote. Significantly, it failed spectacularly because it took place within the Democratic Party -- The role of Democratic superdelegates is to PROTECT Democratic Party elections from illicit, unrepresentative maneuvers, and they did, unanimously (except for the losing candidate, who was also a superdelegate).

This is about what's going on:

The World Is Experiencing a New Form of Autocracy
Today’s authoritarians use legal measures to subvert constitutional constraints on their power.

https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2020/03/new-authoritarianism/607045/

Ponietz

(4,330 posts)
67. I think we're making the same point but
Fri Oct 21, 2022, 08:30 PM
Oct 2022

FBaggins was flat wrong about criminal appellate law.

The traitors have shielded themselves to large degree from meaningful consequences with their Wrays, Cannons, etc.

Only a fraction, minuscule, remain free on bail pending appeal. They must show a colorable appellate issue first to the trial judge. The public’s right to peace and order supercede a defendant’s rights following conviction. Otherwise, all those J6 fools would still be loose.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
68. I am with you that Bannon is a threat to society.
Fri Oct 21, 2022, 09:27 PM
Oct 2022

These scoundrels are giving us a master course on where the law needs to be tightened up. I frankly don’t know if that would change this handling or not. Except that longer sentences for seditious behaviors and laws that enable them to be prosecuted properly are clearly called for.

I’ve always felt that public servants should be afraid to cross the electorate and that punishment should be proportional to the great potential harm to society and betrayal of duty.


Response to FBaggins (Reply #22)

Ponietz

(4,330 posts)
39. He's a repeat offender
Fri Oct 21, 2022, 01:27 PM
Oct 2022

and no constitutional right to release pending appeal exists. There is no legitimate appellate issue here. Professional courtesy when a D can’t even produce a meritorious issue for appeal.

FBaggins

(28,706 posts)
47. He is? The DOJ failed to note that in their sentencing recommendation
Fri Oct 21, 2022, 01:49 PM
Oct 2022

Perhaps you're aware of a conviction that they hadn't heard of?

no constitutional right to release pending appeal exists.

I have no idea why you think there would need to be. It's simply the normal process. A court that tries to effectively moot an appeal by requiring a sentence that will end before the higher court can hear the appeal is going to get overturned. If it were a violent offense that would be different... but a nonviolent misdemeanor is not going to result in being held pending appeal.

But feel free to cite some contrary examples since you think anyone else would get different treatment.

There is no legitimate appellate issue here.

That isn't how the law works.

Ponietz

(4,330 posts)
54. Strident argument you make
Fri Oct 21, 2022, 02:22 PM
Oct 2022

The vast majority of convicted defendants in my state start their sentence. A Defendant must show a legitimate appellate issue to continue on bail following conviction. You are wrong. Google “is there a constitutional right to release pending appeal” and get back to me. Or not.


[https://www.google.com/search?q=is%20there%20a%20constitutional%20right%20to%20release%20pending%20appeal&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&client=firefox-b-1-m|

underpants

(196,495 posts)
3. I'll take that.
Fri Oct 21, 2022, 11:05 AM
Oct 2022

The fine seems light but okay. As long as he actually does time I’m fine with that.

AZSkiffyGeek

(12,744 posts)
7. Haven't you heard?
Fri Oct 21, 2022, 11:07 AM
Oct 2022

It's a slap on the wrist! Anyone can do that standing on their heads! It's Club Fed!

Bayard

(29,684 posts)
60. I was thinking more in terms of slipping in the shower
Fri Oct 21, 2022, 04:00 PM
Oct 2022

But maybe he'll have MAGAt bodyguards.

LisaM

(29,634 posts)
28. Martha Stewart lost weight and got a new poncho pattern.
Fri Oct 21, 2022, 12:33 PM
Oct 2022

I like how she decided not to waste time on appeals and just went and did her time. I can't see Bannon coming out of jail rocking a poncho his fellow inmates made him out of good will, much less being 20 pounds thinner.

dchill

(42,660 posts)
5. "Bannon, for his part, declined to speak in court."
Fri Oct 21, 2022, 11:06 AM
Oct 2022

Saving it for the podcast? Bye, Steve.

MLAA

(19,745 posts)
6. Excellent. That will leave a mark on this traitorous loudmouth.
Fri Oct 21, 2022, 11:06 AM
Oct 2022

The lack of access to Twitter, radio, podcastset al to pontificate will hurt more than anything I expect.

GB_RN

(3,560 posts)
15. Each Charge Of Contempt Carries A Max Of...
Fri Oct 21, 2022, 11:20 AM
Oct 2022
One year in jail and a $100,000 fine. The DOJ asked for 6 months and the max $200k (since he was convicted on both charges). They got most of what they wanted in jail time, but the judge did a slap on the wrist for the fine.

Letting him out while he appeals is a privilege that only those with money get, too.

Hopefully, NY State will get to his fraud trial soon. If convicted there, he will face major jail time.

ETA: if the Wikipedia page doesn’t cut it for you, here’s the relevant information from Findlaw:

Penalties for violations (a misdemeanor) include a fine of up to $100,000 and a jail term of one to 12 months, which requires prosecution by the Department of Justice (DOJ) or the U.S. Attorney's Office for the District of Columbia.

getagrip_already

(17,802 posts)
13. first time offense, non-violent crime, between the min sentence and doj ask......
Fri Oct 21, 2022, 11:17 AM
Oct 2022

But I get it. He should have gotten the doj rec at the very least. And $6500 doesn't even court costs.

It should be a lot harsher, but it could have been a lot lighter also.

BumRushDaShow

(169,753 posts)
66. "Looks like contempt of court isn't a big deal to our justice system."
Fri Oct 21, 2022, 07:43 PM
Oct 2022

"Congress" is NOT a "court". This is for "Contempt of Congress".

FakeNoose

(41,632 posts)
12. It would have been better to shut down his podcast
Fri Oct 21, 2022, 11:14 AM
Oct 2022

Take away his megaphone and that guy can stay out of jail, for all I care. He does more damage talking to the MAGAts on his podcast. The judge should have shut him down indefinitely, and it would have been a fair sentence.

FBaggins

(28,706 posts)
24. I get the inclination... but would you want to live in that world?
Fri Oct 21, 2022, 12:01 PM
Oct 2022

I don't mean one in which this guy loses his audience... I mean one in which a judge can remove someone's free speech rights because of an unrelated misdemeanor?

There are far too many MAGA judges out there for me to be comfortable giving judges that power.

slightlv

(7,790 posts)
26. and you don't think
Fri Oct 21, 2022, 12:21 PM
Oct 2022

they'll do it to us if they get back in power... law or no law? You've got much higher hopes for these people governing than I do.

FBaggins

(28,706 posts)
27. This judge IS a Trump appointee
Fri Oct 21, 2022, 12:29 PM
Oct 2022

The "in power" that you're talking about already exists.

FakeNoose

(41,632 posts)
58. Well Chump is permanently banned from Twitter so how would that be different?
Fri Oct 21, 2022, 03:52 PM
Oct 2022

... I hope Chump never gets the idea to have his own podcast.

FBaggins

(28,706 posts)
61. He's banned from speaking at my house as well
Fri Oct 21, 2022, 04:03 PM
Oct 2022

But neither of us is the US Government.

There would be no problem with whoever produced or markets or buys his podcast from deciding to back out of that relationship - but no court can order it as punishment for something unrelated.

jmowreader

(53,194 posts)
36. The only constitutional way to temporarily shut it down is jail
Fri Oct 21, 2022, 01:16 PM
Oct 2022

You know they’re not going to let him set up a podcast studio in jail.

Mopar151

(10,348 posts)
52. With NO liquor.......
Fri Oct 21, 2022, 02:02 PM
Oct 2022

Or microphones, or TV cameras! They got any Federal lockups in West by God Virginia?

Marthe48

(23,175 posts)
21. If he'd been remorseful
Fri Oct 21, 2022, 11:36 AM
Oct 2022

judge would probably let him off with a warning.

But bannon would have lo$t $ome of hi$ follower$, and he relie$ on them for hi$ income.

 

fightforfreedom

(4,913 posts)
23. I was hoping for more time, however
Fri Oct 21, 2022, 11:47 AM
Oct 2022

This is just the beginning of what is coming Stinky Mans way. He is facing a trial in NY for serious felonies.

EndlessWire

(8,103 posts)
30. He got off light
Fri Oct 21, 2022, 12:44 PM
Oct 2022

For lying to the FBI on insider trading, Martha got:

"The conviction resulted in a five-month prison sentence, followed by five months of house arrest and two years of probation. Stewart maintained she was innocent but was confined to the minimum security Alderson Federal Prison Camp, West Virginia in October 2004." She was also fined $30,000. That was more back then than $6,500 today.

So, he got off easy. Not sure why contempt of Congress is worth less than insider trading. I think he has some kind of moral victory here, despite two counts of despicable behavior. And, he's out for Midterms.


Alien Life Form

(370 posts)
31. Prepare for Civil war
Fri Oct 21, 2022, 12:45 PM
Oct 2022

Bannon and Trump are both making threats.. He is what Bannon said after the sentencing..

“On Nov. 8, on Nov. 8, there’s going to (be) judgment on the illegitimate Biden regime … and quite frankly, Nancy Pelosi and the entire (House Jan. 6) committee,” he added.

Bannon said voters are “weighing and measuring” the Justice Department and committee members’ actions, “and they will vote on Nov. 8.”

bearsfootball516

(6,713 posts)
33. Glad he's getting time, but 4 months is practically nothing.
Fri Oct 21, 2022, 01:02 PM
Oct 2022

That will go by in the blink of an eye.

ancianita

(43,307 posts)
35. The public scofflaw will appeal but lose. Still. His punishment will only harden his scofflaw ways.
Fri Oct 21, 2022, 01:14 PM
Oct 2022

Anything he gets won't be enough. So fuck Bannon forever.

SergeStorms

(20,591 posts)
37. We can always hope for....
Fri Oct 21, 2022, 01:19 PM
Oct 2022

an epiphany from Mr. Bannon while he serves his time (if he serves any time at all), but hope in one hand and shit in the other, then see which hand fills up first.

calimary

(90,020 posts)
55. Nope. I SERIOUSLY doubt it, with him.
Fri Oct 21, 2022, 02:25 PM
Oct 2022

Considering the kind of individual we’re talking about, I’d expect nothing but the worst of him. Whichever way he’d react and then respond, I’d expect it to be the bad way.

Four short months would do nothing but confirm and solidify his sense of righteous indignation and its companion, the wish or determination to punish, to seek and implement revenge.

I’d say it’d harden his heart if he had one.

SergeStorms

(20,591 posts)
57. "If he had one".
Fri Oct 21, 2022, 02:40 PM
Oct 2022

You hit the nail on the head there!

Bannon is one soulless asshole. Are some people just born pure evil, or is it learned behavior? 🤔 I think Bannon was born evil, then dedicated his life to perfecting his "craft".

malthaussen

(18,567 posts)
44. "He's expressed no remorse, but Ima going to let him off easy anyway."
Fri Oct 21, 2022, 01:39 PM
Oct 2022

And then brag about how tough I was.

-- Mal

Mysterian

(6,484 posts)
70. So, you think the appeals court will throw out his jail sentence?
Sun Oct 23, 2022, 08:11 AM
Oct 2022

Interesting. Do you have any particular facts to back up that theory?

 

FredGarvin

(846 posts)
48. Another Bannon Fundraiser
Fri Oct 21, 2022, 01:59 PM
Oct 2022

Bannon isnt going to jail.

He is going to raise millions of dollars with his social media accounts with this decision.

The dude has nothing to worry about.

A huge win for him and his friends.

Joinfortmill

(21,163 posts)
49. Bannon is well educated. He was one of the master minds
Fri Oct 21, 2022, 02:00 PM
Oct 2022

There will be more coming out about this traitor.

msfiddlestix

(8,178 posts)
71. I feel so much better, he's not even serving a single hour of incarceration, and that my dear
Sun Oct 23, 2022, 08:44 AM
Oct 2022

'comrades' is likely going to be the reality we need to accept down the road of appeal(s).

and that reality likely includes the ONE we really want to see behind bars for life.




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