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BumRushDaShow

(129,498 posts)
Fri Oct 21, 2022, 01:45 PM Oct 2022

Jan. 6 Capitol riot committee subpoenas former President Donald Trump

Source: CNBC

Former President Donald Trump was issued a subpoena Friday by the House select committee investigating the Jan. 6 riot at the U.S. Capitol. The committee, which voted unanimously on the move, is demanding Trump’s testimony under oath next month as well as records relevant to the probe into the attack, which the panel noted came after weeks of him denying losing the 2020 election to President Joe Biden.

The panel had said on Oct. 13 that it would subpoena Trump, whose supporters stormed the Capitol on Jan. 6, 2021, as a joint session of Congress met to confirm Biden’s victory. “We recognize that a subpoena to a former President is a significant and historic action,” the panel’s leaders wrote Trump in a letter Friday. “We do not take this action lightly.”

Committee Chairman Rep. Bennie Thompson, D-Miss., and Republican Vice Chairwoman Liz Cheney of Wyoming, in the letter cited what they called Trump’s central role in a deliberate, “multi-part effort” to reverse his loss in the 2020 presidential election, and to remain in power.

The subpoena says that Trump would be deposed on Nov. 14, after the midterm elections. It is not clear whether Trump will comply with the subpoena. The records being sought by the House committee pursuant to the subpoena are due Nov. 4.

Read more: https://www.cnbc.com/2022/10/21/jan-6-capitol-riot-probe-subpoenas-donald-trump.html



Link to subpoena is here (PDF)

to ancianita




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Pursuant to a unanimous vote, the Select Committee issued a subpoena to former President Donald Trump for testimony and records relevant to the Select Committee’s investigation into the January 6th attack on the United States Capitol and its causes.
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In a letter to Mr. Trump, Chair @BennieGThompson and Vice Chair @RepLizCheney underscored Trump’s central role in a deliberate, orchestrated effort to overturn the results of the 2020 presidential election and block the transfer of presidential power.
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Article being updated.

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Former President Donald Trump was issued a subpoena Friday by the House select committee investigating the Jan. 6 riot at the U.S. Capitol. The committee, which voted unanimously on the move, is demanding Trump's testimony under oath and records relevant to the probe into the 2021 attack on the Capitol and its causes.

Committee Chairman Rep. Bennie Thompson, D-Miss., and Republican Vice Chairwoman Liz Cheney of Wyoming in a letter to Trump cited what they called his central role in a deliberate effort to reverse his loss in the 2020 presidential election, and to remain in power.

"As demonstrated in our hearings, we have assembled overwhelming evidence, including from dozens of your former appointees and staff, that you personally orchestrated and oversaw a multi-part effort to overturn the 2020 presidential election and to obstruct the peaceful transition of power," the letter said.

"You were at the center of the first and only effort by any U.S. President to overturn an election and obstruct the peaceful transition of power, ultimately culminating in a bloody attack on our own Capitol and on the Congress itself," the letter said. The records being sought by the House committee pursuant to the subpoena are due Nov. 4. The subpoena also says that Trump would be deposed on Nov. 14, after the midterm elections.


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Original article -

Former President Donald Trump was issued a subpoena Friday by the House select committee investigating the Jan. 6 riot at the U.S. Capitol.

The committee, which voted unanimously on the move, is demanding Trump's testimony under oath and records relevant to the probe into the attack on the Capitol and its causes.

The panel on Oct. 13 had said that it would subpoena Trump, whose supporters stormed the Capitol on that day as a joint session of Congress met to confirm the election of President Joe Biden.

It is not clear whether Trump will comply with the subpoena.

This is breaking news. Check back for updates.
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Jan. 6 Capitol riot committee subpoenas former President Donald Trump (Original Post) BumRushDaShow Oct 2022 OP
But can the Teflon Don be made to comply? peppertree Oct 2022 #1
IMHO in the scheme of everything else going on with 45 BumRushDaShow Oct 2022 #2
Here's hoping you're right peppertree Oct 2022 #17
Neither Tricky Dick, Poppy, or Shrub BumRushDaShow Oct 2022 #25
Thank you for the news. The subpoena itself: ancianita Oct 2022 #3
Thanks! I'll add to the OP. BumRushDaShow Oct 2022 #6
Cool. ancianita Oct 2022 #7
Added with a pile of updates BumRushDaShow Oct 2022 #10
Cool. Do you have a link to a copy/paste version? Or is there a trick to copy/pasting PDFs? ancianita Oct 2022 #12
I believe the images that were in the tweet that I added BumRushDaShow Oct 2022 #13
I'd just used the hyperlink in your original source. Glad the tweets offer a copy/paste version. ancianita Oct 2022 #15
Welp, the tweet doesn't offer copy/paste-ability, either. Oh well. ancianita Oct 2022 #16
The january6th.house.gov page finally has it up, still with a non-copiable PDF version. ancianita Oct 2022 #19
Orange A-O republianmushroom Oct 2022 #4
This is just in case the DOJ misses something. ancianita Oct 2022 #9
Biden should cancel Christmas GenXer47 Oct 2022 #5
So? Apparently ignoring a Congressional subpoena only costs 4 months & $6500. -nt CrispyQ Oct 2022 #8
He'll cooperate with them just enough to give them the story that they already got everything. ancianita Oct 2022 #11
As DUer Bayard said, that's a pittance. Duppers Oct 2022 #18
Half a pittance! Bayard Oct 2022 #23
Wow. BumRushDaShow Oct 2022 #27
I stand corrected. 😁 Duppers Oct 2022 #29
orangeanus going to jail for 4 months would be freaking AWSOME!! Kali Oct 2022 #24
Not for you or I newdayneeded Oct 2022 #31
Oh yeah! mcar Oct 2022 #14
TY & the J6C for Subpoenaing the Cha Oct 2022 #20
This shows the dedication the J6 committee has! PurgedVoter Oct 2022 #21
The best part of this Sugarcoated Oct 2022 #22
Here's how this is going to go. Tacan Oct 2022 #26
But we keep our majorities in House and Senate Sugarcoated Oct 2022 #28
Listing the 7 Presidents who have testified before Congress KS Toronado Oct 2022 #30
K&R ck4829 Oct 2022 #32

peppertree

(21,670 posts)
1. But can the Teflon Don be made to comply?
Fri Oct 21, 2022, 01:49 PM
Oct 2022

And before January?

Given the hyper-gerrymandered landscape this November, time is probably of the essence here.

BumRushDaShow

(129,498 posts)
2. IMHO in the scheme of everything else going on with 45
Fri Oct 21, 2022, 02:01 PM
Oct 2022

this is piddling compared to all the other peril he is in. However as a tool, Congress has to reiterate and follow-through with its powers to subpoena and compel, whether immediately successful or not.

As we have seen, whether through an "invitation to interview" or through a subpoena, over 1000 people complied, and were interviewed and/or had a sworn deposition taken, and/or testified publicly, and literally only a handful refused.

peppertree

(21,670 posts)
17. Here's hoping you're right
Fri Oct 21, 2022, 03:09 PM
Oct 2022

There seems to be an unwritten law in this country, that all Repug ex-presidents enjoy blanket immunity and impunity.

Of course though, Cheeto might just break the tradition.

BumRushDaShow

(129,498 posts)
25. Neither Tricky Dick, Poppy, or Shrub
Fri Oct 21, 2022, 04:02 PM
Oct 2022

were under the same levels or depth and breadth of criminal investigations, not only from the feds, but from states (let alone multiple states), that 45 is experincing. It's literally mob boss stuff.

The closest to that level of jeopardy for someone in the upper echelons of the Executive Branch who doesn't get much mention, is Agnew, who was taken down for tax evasion and corruption (sound familiar?).

Opinion: What the Agnew case tells us about indicting a sitting president


By Walter Dellinger
The Morning Call • Dec 17, 2018 at 6:05 pm


What does the nation do if it turns out that a president of the United States has committed serious crimes that a prosecutor can prove beyond a reasonable doubt? One possible resolution would be to offer a plea bargain in which the commander in chief agreed to resign the presidency in exchange for utmost leniency. Perversely, the more financially corrupt or psychologically unstable the White House occupant, the greater his or her bargaining power: Only if you let my client go scot-free, a president’s lawyers could argue, will you be allowed to pry the nuclear codes from his hands.

That is a powerful bargaining chip but one with an expiration date. At the strike of noon on his successor’s Inauguration Day, when the (former) president’s Air Force One turns into a pumpkin, he loses that leverage and becomes like any other citizen before the bar of justice. That gives a provably corrupt president a great incentive to end his term early — and on his terms.

The end of Spiro T. Agnew's vice presidency is instructive — and provides a good example for why we should be able to indict a sitting president. On Oct. 10, 1973, Agnew resigned as vice president of the United States and pleaded guilty to one count of tax evasion. He was sentenced to a fine of $10,000 and a period of unsupervised probation. He basically walked out of the courtroom and into a life of playing golf and making money peddling influence.

(snip)

Agnew’s corruption began when he served as Baltimore County executive and continued throughout his term as governor of Maryland. For years, Agnew used his government offices for bribery and extortion, steering government contracts in exchange for money. After he was elected vice president, the payments continued. Most shockingly, packets of cash were delivered to Agnew at the White House itself. The evidence of Agnew’s guilt was overwhelming.

(snip)

https://www.mcall.com/opinion/mc-opi-indict-president-agnew-20181217-story.html


Obviously 45 is no longer a "sitting President" and has been impeached an unprecedented two times. However he has decades worth of corruption that has come to a head over the past couple years, with the establishment of a pattern of criminal conduct, both at the federal and state levels.

ancianita

(36,137 posts)
3. Thank you for the news. The subpoena itself:
Fri Oct 21, 2022, 02:06 PM
Oct 2022
https://january6th.house.gov/sites/democrats.january6th.house.gov/files/20221021%20J6%20Cmte%20Subpeona%20to%20Donald%20Trump.pdf


Phew. Nineteen major groupings of documentary evidence.

Everything from "telephone calls, text messages, or communications through Signal or any other means, placed or received by you or at your direction on Jan 6, 2021, including records of any calls you joined as an active or passive participant." Same for Dec 18; all photographs and video recordings.

Everything from November 3 to the present for "notes (including electronic and handwritten notes), summaries, memoranda of conversations, readouts, or other documents containing or memorializing you made or received and relating or referring in any way to the joint session of Congress on January 6, 2021, or to the riot that occurred at the United States Capitol on January 6, 2021, including, but not limited to, any information about your possible travel to the Capitol on that day".

Everything from September 1, 2020 to the present with Oath Keepers, Proud Boys or any members of any other militia groups.




BumRushDaShow

(129,498 posts)
13. I believe the images that were in the tweet that I added
Fri Oct 21, 2022, 02:47 PM
Oct 2022

(along with embedding the images from the tweets, in the OP) ARE the subpoena!

PDFs are usually stored somewhere and are straight links and your browser needs a way to view them (more and more are including some built-in viewer so you can open them automatically). Some of the news sites actually have PDF viewer applets on their sites that allow you to "read" the PDF contents as at those news sites.

ancianita

(36,137 posts)
15. I'd just used the hyperlink in your original source. Glad the tweets offer a copy/paste version.
Fri Oct 21, 2022, 03:02 PM
Oct 2022

Thanks!

ancianita

(36,137 posts)
16. Welp, the tweet doesn't offer copy/paste-ability, either. Oh well.
Fri Oct 21, 2022, 03:06 PM
Oct 2022
I'll check Google Images for some other source. Thanks.

ancianita

(36,137 posts)
19. The january6th.house.gov page finally has it up, still with a non-copiable PDF version.
Fri Oct 21, 2022, 03:14 PM
Oct 2022

They only give a cursory summary and not the complete schedule of docs on their page.

The PDF of all that:

https://january6th.house.gov/sites/democrats.january6th.house.gov/files/20221021%20J6%20Cmte%20Subpeona%20to%20Donald%20Trump.pdf

ancianita

(36,137 posts)
9. This is just in case the DOJ misses something.
Fri Oct 21, 2022, 02:29 PM
Oct 2022

There's enough evidence of his obstructing, and enough 'due process' time given, to make it look as if nothing will be done.

That doesn't mean the DOJ won't prosecute.

 

GenXer47

(1,204 posts)
5. Biden should cancel Christmas
Fri Oct 21, 2022, 02:13 PM
Oct 2022

as a national holiday. Thanksgiving too. Then there will be more working days in the year.

ancianita

(36,137 posts)
11. He'll cooperate with them just enough to give them the story that they already got everything.
Fri Oct 21, 2022, 02:34 PM
Oct 2022

After that point his docs and depositions will be added to the DOJ's case building. After that he'll be indicted and prosecuted; if he comes up with more evidence, that will only add to the counts of obstruction on the indictment.

Kali

(55,020 posts)
24. orangeanus going to jail for 4 months would be freaking AWSOME!!
Fri Oct 21, 2022, 03:55 PM
Oct 2022

are you kidding? he won't ever go to prison but even a couple days would be such a blow to that asshole he would probably keel over dead. (another plus to even being arrested, much less any time in a cell)

PurgedVoter

(2,220 posts)
21. This shows the dedication the J6 committee has!
Fri Oct 21, 2022, 03:23 PM
Oct 2022

Imagine what a challenge this is. Knowing that there is a chance that you will have to see the Orange Sphincter of Doom who's touch turns things to turds. Knowing you will have to listen to him in person while sharing the air you breath with that monstrosity. This is true heroism and courage.

I can barely handle images of TFG and quotes from the rotten orange who taints all he touches. The J6 committee is brave. Let us give respect to them and the clean up crew ready to take the chair he sat in to the furnaces.

Sugarcoated

(7,728 posts)
22. The best part of this
Fri Oct 21, 2022, 03:32 PM
Oct 2022

is the guy who staged a violent coup will be front and center on voters' minds going into the midterms.

Tacan

(97 posts)
26. Here's how this is going to go.
Fri Oct 21, 2022, 04:15 PM
Oct 2022

J6 committee issues a subpoena to Trump**
Trump** ignores the subpoena
J6 committee requests a contempt of Congress
Congress approves the contempt of Congress
Contempt of Congress charge sent to Garland
Garland ignores the charge because it is now too close to an election in 2024.
The rule of law fails again.

Sugarcoated

(7,728 posts)
28. But we keep our majorities in House and Senate
Fri Oct 21, 2022, 04:37 PM
Oct 2022

This story is going to stomp all over every Repuke's "the sky is falling" messaging

KS Toronado

(17,329 posts)
30. Listing the 7 Presidents who have testified before Congress
Fri Oct 21, 2022, 04:57 PM
Oct 2022

should take one of his talking points away why he'll refuse to testify. Knowing that idiot he'll probably
say he is more important or greater than the other 7 combined so he gets a pass. Maybe even hint
at starting a civil war.

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