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Mr. Sparkle

(3,710 posts)
Sat Oct 22, 2022, 10:03 AM Oct 2022

Canada bans new handgun sales in latest gun control action

Source: Reuters

Oct 21 (Reuters) - Regulations prohibiting the sale, purchase or transfer of handguns within Canada took effect on Friday, as Canadian Prime Minister Justin Trudeau said the measure builds on earlier efforts banning handgun imports. The handgun freeze was announced in May alongside proposed legislation that would implement the nation's strongest gun control measures in 40 years as part of Trudeau's plan to tackle gun violence, his office said. But the freeze was criticized by the government of the western province of Alberta, which has previously said it will resist other gun control measures proposed by Ottawa.

"We have frozen the market for handguns in this country," Trudeau said at a news conference in Surrey, British Columbia, attended by family members of gun violence victims and other advocates. "As we see gun violence continue to rise... we have an obligation to take action," Trudeau added. "Today our national handgun freeze is coming into force." Friday's action stops people from buying, selling or transferring handguns within Canada, and prevents them from bringing newly acquired handguns into the country, according to the prime minister's office.

Canadian Public Safety Minister Marco Mendicino called it the most significant action on gun violence in Canada in a generation. Trudeau's ruling Liberal government introduced bill C-21 to fight gun violence, and his office said Friday's move will help "keep Canadians safe" while the legislation is debated. In August, it banned imports until the law passes. "We've got to get that law passed as quickly as possible," Mendicino said, speaking alongside Trudeau.




Read more: https://www.reuters.com/world/americas/canada-bans-new-handgun-sales-imports-latest-gun-action-2022-10-21/

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Canada bans new handgun sales in latest gun control action (Original Post) Mr. Sparkle Oct 2022 OP
What is it with these Canadians? Turbineguy Oct 2022 #1
Or gun crime? Mysterian Oct 2022 #5
I can't remember the last time I saw a store held up with a shot gun. LiberalArkie Oct 2022 #24
GOOD. heckles65 Oct 2022 #2
Handguns? docgee Oct 2022 #3
The vast majority of gun crime in the USA Mysterian Oct 2022 #6
What about protecting yourself? docgee Oct 2022 #11
Pepper spray or taser if you must live in fear Mysterian Oct 2022 #13
"if you must live in fear" speak easy Oct 2022 #19
Statistics show that women would be much safer if men didn't have guns Kaleva Oct 2022 #28
Statistics show that women are more afraid speak easy Oct 2022 #30
You can treat women being killed by male acquaintances as a joke Kaleva Oct 2022 #32
I bet you are a CIS white man. n/t MicaelS Oct 2022 #26
Why would you make that judgement based upon gender? Chainfire Oct 2022 #17
I don't know. Maybe it's because as many men as women speak easy Oct 2022 #20
The biggest threat to a woman is a male acquaintance with a gun Kaleva Oct 2022 #27
because almost all rapists have guns speak easy Oct 2022 #31
Is there a reason you dismiss the thousands of women who are murdered? Kaleva Oct 2022 #33
Yes. Straw Man Oct 2022 #35
handguns Slammer Oct 2022 #39
What? sl8 Oct 2022 #7
Then why the fixation by US politicians with banning assault weapons ? MichMan Oct 2022 #8
I'm not sure whether or not that's a rhetorical question. sl8 Oct 2022 #9
it's a good question Hieronymus Phact Oct 2022 #10
For mass, random shootings assault weapons are the weapons of choice. Chainfire Oct 2022 #16
Politicians generally focus on things they can actually change Shermann Oct 2022 #18
They aren't completely banned- only the sale/transfer is banned Fiendish Thingy Oct 2022 #12
It's a very slow-acting ban ... Straw Man Oct 2022 #34
How so? EX500rider Oct 2022 #36
According to how it's worded Slammer Oct 2022 #40
Slammer nailed it. Straw Man Oct 2022 #42
They didn't ban handguns. They banned the buying, selling or trading of handguns. Chainfire Oct 2022 #15
I view it the opposite. Hand guns are far more problematic than rifles XorXor Oct 2022 #43
Makes sense. Will never fly in the U S of fucking A. twodogsbarking Oct 2022 #4
Not sure what the love affair with guns is in the US but it is insane. walkingman Oct 2022 #14
59% of gun related crime in Canada involve handguns OnlinePoker Oct 2022 #21
or break the law to bring a gun across a border n/t Slammer Oct 2022 #41
YES republianmushroom Oct 2022 #22
Thoughts and prayers IronLionZion Oct 2022 #23
Doesn't Canada have an NRA-type thorn in its side? Sneederbunk Oct 2022 #25
It wouldn't bother me if the same was done here in the US Kaleva Oct 2022 #29
When people can't find a handgun in the streets they may sometime make their own, if they (or their- 2live is 2fly Oct 2022 #37
Guns laws are great. The only problem is that criminals SlimJimmy Oct 2022 #38

LiberalArkie

(19,807 posts)
24. I can't remember the last time I saw a store held up with a shot gun.
Sat Oct 22, 2022, 12:55 PM
Oct 2022

I did see the video of a liquor store that had BR glass in from of the clerk and a robber attempted to shoot the clerk with a shotgun. The robber had to be taken to the hospital.

docgee

(870 posts)
3. Handguns?
Sat Oct 22, 2022, 10:08 AM
Oct 2022

That seems kind of draconian. I'm all for banning assault rifles and military weapons and having psychological test and background checks. Banning handguns would go too far.

Mysterian

(6,486 posts)
6. The vast majority of gun crime in the USA
Sat Oct 22, 2022, 10:15 AM
Oct 2022

is by handguns. If you can't "protect your home" with a 12 gauge, a hand gun won't make much difference.

Mysterian

(6,486 posts)
13. Pepper spray or taser if you must live in fear
Sat Oct 22, 2022, 11:08 AM
Oct 2022

Then you don't accidentally kill yourself or anyone else.

Handguns and civilized society do not mix.

Kaleva

(40,365 posts)
28. Statistics show that women would be much safer if men didn't have guns
Sat Oct 22, 2022, 02:18 PM
Oct 2022
https://www.americanprogress.org/article/guns-and-violence-against-women/

A major threat to women is an armed male spouse, boyfriend, ex, co-worker or acquaintance.

speak easy

(12,598 posts)
30. Statistics show that women are more afraid
Sat Oct 22, 2022, 02:42 PM
Oct 2022

of rape than men. Because almost all rapists have guns

Kaleva

(40,365 posts)
32. You can treat women being killed by male acquaintances as a joke
Sat Oct 22, 2022, 03:44 PM
Oct 2022

Most of us here don't treat it as such and that makes us progressives. One doesn't have to be a progressive to be a member here as long as they support and vote D or at least say they do.

Kaleva

(40,365 posts)
33. Is there a reason you dismiss the thousands of women who are murdered?
Sat Oct 22, 2022, 03:46 PM
Oct 2022

Many of whom are victims of an armed male that they know?

Straw Man

(6,947 posts)
35. Yes.
Sat Oct 22, 2022, 08:46 PM
Oct 2022
The vast majority of gun crime in the USA

is by handguns.

Take handguns out of the picture and watch that change. Overnight. Can you say "sawed-off 12-gauge"?

Slammer

(714 posts)
39. handguns
Mon Oct 24, 2022, 01:39 AM
Oct 2022

In theory, I could hit my target using a handgun which has an integrated laser-sight on it, even if I'd just been woken up by some intruder, because I could literally see where the bullet is going to hit.

I could also hold the pistol in one hand, aiming it at the door, while calling 911 with the other hand, which is something I couldn't do while holding a shotgun.

I'm not a huge advocate of guns for home defense. But I have lived in places where the nearest cop was a 30 minute car ride away, even if he started responding to the call immediately. And I've had a number of friends who've lived in places where the nearest cop is a lot further away than that. (After I moved for college a friend from middle school decided he was going to rob a small bank because the nearest cop to the bank was a 30-40 minute drive away. He ended up wrecking his getaway car because the narrow road, which led back in the direction the cop would be coming from, had a large number of 90 degree turns which could only be managed by slowing way the hell down.)

I'd imagine there's a lot of places in western Canada where the nearest law enforcement officer likewise isn't very near.

Some people might feel they need a gun which they can get out of their nightstand quickly rather than going over and getting a shotgun out of a closet or gun cabinet.

sl8

(17,110 posts)
7. What?
Sat Oct 22, 2022, 10:19 AM
Oct 2022

More than 90% of US gun homicides are committed with handguns.

Canada has always had very tough restrictions on handgun ownership and where they can be used. They also have always had far fewer gun homicides than the US.

Perhaps there's a connection.

MichMan

(17,151 posts)
8. Then why the fixation by US politicians with banning assault weapons ?
Sat Oct 22, 2022, 10:25 AM
Oct 2022

and ignoring handguns, if it won't have a significant effect on gun violence?

sl8

(17,110 posts)
9. I'm not sure whether or not that's a rhetorical question.
Sat Oct 22, 2022, 10:42 AM
Oct 2022

If not, it's a big question.

The simplest explanation is that politicians tend to do things for perceived political gain or advantage. That's a gross oversimplification, of course, but not l'm inclined to dig deep on the issue this morning.

If your question was rhetorical, then never mind.

 

Chainfire

(17,757 posts)
16. For mass, random shootings assault weapons are the weapons of choice.
Sat Oct 22, 2022, 11:16 AM
Oct 2022

They are also the choice of traitors and seditionists. They want you to call AWs "sporting rifles" but that is only accurate if you consider mass murder a sport. AWs have no place in our society regardless of the validity of other types of firearms.

Shermann

(9,062 posts)
18. Politicians generally focus on things they can actually change
Sat Oct 22, 2022, 12:10 PM
Oct 2022

Handguns are largely off the table due to the 2nd amendment. There is wiggle room with controlling assault weapons due to their military origins and lethality.

Assault weapons are also disproportionally used in high-profile mass shootings, furthering the interest by politicians.

Fiendish Thingy

(23,236 posts)
12. They aren't completely banned- only the sale/transfer is banned
Sat Oct 22, 2022, 11:00 AM
Oct 2022

If you already have a handgun, you can keep it.

Straw Man

(6,947 posts)
34. It's a very slow-acting ban ...
Sat Oct 22, 2022, 08:43 PM
Oct 2022

... but a ban nonetheless. It will take about a generation to be complete.

If you already have a handgun, you can keep it.

For now.

EX500rider

(12,583 posts)
36. How so?
Sun Oct 23, 2022, 11:20 AM
Oct 2022

I own some antique firearms over a 100 years old that work just fine and will so for another 100+ years I imagine.

Slammer

(714 posts)
40. According to how it's worded
Mon Oct 24, 2022, 01:44 AM
Oct 2022

It could be a slow-acting ban because it bans transfers of ownership.

The original owner will eventually die.

If the ownership of the gun can't be transferred to an heir, anyone owning the gun would be illegal.

Yeah, the gun itself would still be operational but that would no longer be relevant if the law bans transfers of ownership to an heir.

Straw Man

(6,947 posts)
42. Slammer nailed it.
Mon Oct 24, 2022, 03:19 AM
Oct 2022

You might be in excellent health and all, but I doubt that you're going to be around in 100 years. When you die, your guns are forfeit -- transfer is illegal. When all current handgun owners are dead, private ownership of handguns dies with them.

 

Chainfire

(17,757 posts)
15. They didn't ban handguns. They banned the buying, selling or trading of handguns.
Sat Oct 22, 2022, 11:12 AM
Oct 2022

XorXor

(690 posts)
43. I view it the opposite. Hand guns are far more problematic than rifles
Mon Oct 24, 2022, 12:23 PM
Oct 2022

They account for most gun deaths. We just focus on rifles because they are used in most of the high profile random mass shootings. That's not say nothing should be done to address the issue of rifles, particularly rifles that are capable of accepting magazines with large capacities, though. But really if we just ban rifles then those folks will just use handguns, and ultimately it wouldn't do much for the overall gun violence rate. Gotta have solutions that deal with it all.

OnlinePoker

(6,127 posts)
21. 59% of gun related crime in Canada involve handguns
Sat Oct 22, 2022, 12:20 PM
Oct 2022

"The report shows that the rate of firearm-related violent crime in 2009 stood at 29 per 100,000 people. This number dropped to 19 in 2013 as violent crime also fell overall, before returning to 29 in 2020."

https://www.ctvnews.ca/canada/as-ottawa-readies-new-firearms-bill-statcan-says-violent-gun-crime-is-on-the-rise-1.5923276

Banning handgun sales will do next to nothing to stop violent gun crime. Criminals don't tend to care about gun laws and will get their handguns from the pool of weapons already available on the street.

2live is 2fly

(336 posts)
37. When people can't find a handgun in the streets they may sometime make their own, if they (or their-
Sun Oct 23, 2022, 06:26 PM
Oct 2022

homeboys, lol) can't physically make them in garage machine shops, they simply saw-off shotguns & rifles. Two peices of pipe + $20.00 at the corner hardware store will consistently discharge (slam-fire) a shotgun shell. I think if I had to get shot, I'd much prefer the handgun bullet every single time.

Some Canadian gun laws allow for exceptions like where it may be illegal to purchase a handgun out-right, a person 16 years or older is allowed to carry a .22 cal. handgun while running a trapline and centerfire handguns also may be purchased/carried in areas frequented by bears.

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