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StormKing

(243 posts)
Sun Oct 23, 2022, 08:40 PM Oct 2022

More Republicans trust DeSantis than Trump to chart path of GOP: poll

Source: The Hill

Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis (R) topped former President Trump in a new poll asking GOP voters who they trust to guide the party into the future.

The ABC News/Ipsos poll, published on Sunday, found that 72 percent of registered Republicans believe that DeSantis, a former U.S. congressman, should have a great or good deal of influence in the future direction of the GOP, while 64 percent of respondents said the same of Trump.

Sixty-three percent of registered Republicans believe that Sen. Ted Cruz (R-Texas), who ran for president in 2016, should have significant influence in the party’s direction, according to the poll.

Among Democrats who were asked the same question, 83 percent of those surveyed believe that former President Obama should have great influence over the party’s future, as 69 percent of respondents believe President Biden should call the shots over the direction of the party.

Read more: https://thehill.com/homenews/state-watch/3700654-more-republicans-trust-desantis-than-trump-to-chart-path-of-gop-poll/



DeSantis, the smarter Trump. As long as the system rewards / doesn't prosecute the top layer of American politicians, we are doomed to get smarter and smarter "Strong Man" leaders until one does us all in.

Vote yet? I did.
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More Republicans trust DeSantis than Trump to chart path of GOP: poll (Original Post) StormKing Oct 2022 OP
DeSantis Kool-Ade..... OAITW r.2.0 Oct 2022 #1
He's worst than shithole ...... Lovie777 Oct 2022 #2
Trump bout to lose his shit now oldsoftie Oct 2022 #3
Not that hard to chart the path of a clown car over a cliff. KY_EnviroGuy Oct 2022 #4
Now to pit trump against desatan. texasfiddler Oct 2022 #5
In a stuntsmanship contest, I can see DeSantis winning over Trump. Gore1FL Oct 2022 #6
This is why I'd rather have Trump be the nominee jgmiller Oct 2022 #7
This is not really good news... DemocraticPatriot Oct 2022 #8
More republicans trust a horse dewormer BOSSHOG Oct 2022 #9
They will keep choosing the candidate who is closer to Nazism. chowder66 Oct 2022 #10
Republicans hate America, period. CaptainTruth Oct 2022 #11
I wouldn't trust either of them to look after my pets if I went on vacation. tclambert Oct 2022 #12
I would not trust either to water my house plants. EOM Scottie Mom Oct 2022 #13
Both are sleazebags Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Oct 2022 #14
Sorry, but GenThePerservering Oct 2022 #15
both of them are evIl and dont forget abbot. AllaN01Bear Oct 2022 #16
Just goes to show Repugs haven't evolved at all SouthernDem4ever Oct 2022 #17
Truly a thing of great horror, but then, that's people for you. jaxexpat Oct 2022 #18
The Clowns-of-the-Apocalypse are just buying a new ride. Magoo48 Oct 2022 #19
cancer vs heart failure dembotoz Oct 2022 #20
Both cut from the same cloth. SergeStorms Oct 2022 #21
No. DeSantis is much, much more intelligent and smarter - and that terrifies the fuck out of me sir pball Oct 2022 #25
It's a process StormKing Oct 2022 #26
I see a Truth Social trumper tantrum in about 3...2...1. CrispyQ Oct 2022 #22
We can shut this down if we can get him convicted of human trafficking. intheflow Oct 2022 #23
Both are despicable pieces of shit with similar policies and opinions. cstanleytech Oct 2022 #24
LOL Skittles Oct 2022 #27
More Republicans trust drinking bleach to cure Covid tavernier Oct 2022 #28

texasfiddler

(2,199 posts)
5. Now to pit trump against desatan.
Sun Oct 23, 2022, 09:13 PM
Oct 2022

Dump won’t take this well and the dems need to take advantage

Gore1FL

(22,937 posts)
6. In a stuntsmanship contest, I can see DeSantis winning over Trump.
Sun Oct 23, 2022, 09:14 PM
Oct 2022

Trump's schtick is old. DeSantis is cutting-edge with his bullshit.

I submit, however, most of the American people aren't looking for stunts.

jgmiller

(685 posts)
7. This is why I'd rather have Trump be the nominee
Sun Oct 23, 2022, 10:07 PM
Oct 2022

The odds of Trump winning are low, the odds of DeSantis winning are pretty good when "regular" Republicans compare him to Trump. Trump is nothing more than a racist, homophobic, grifter. DeSantis is evil, he wants power and his ability to manipulate runs rings around Trump.

Look at it this way Hitler was a sick, twisted loon but Joseph Goebbels was pure evil but could control himself There was never any question about what would eventually happen with Hitler in power, if it had been Goebbels instead thing might very well have gone differently.

 

DemocraticPatriot

(5,410 posts)
8. This is not really good news...
Sun Oct 23, 2022, 10:14 PM
Oct 2022

Trump has authoritarian instincts and impulses, but he is basically selfish and ignorant...

DeSantis, on the other hand, is extremely targeted and believes in fascism as a cause unto itself, and is somewhat smarter...


The best thing we could hope for, is a GQP nomination contest between the 2 of them, where they will not hesitate to destroy each other...


BOSSHOG

(44,738 posts)
9. More republicans trust a horse dewormer
Sun Oct 23, 2022, 10:20 PM
Oct 2022

Over a broomstick shoved up their ass to cure what ails them. But it’s close - 52% to 48%

The broomsticks say they don’t accept the vote and refuse to certify.

CaptainTruth

(8,173 posts)
11. Republicans hate America, period.
Sun Oct 23, 2022, 10:58 PM
Oct 2022

That's the only conclusion I can come to, even if they're too ignorant to realize it.

tclambert

(11,188 posts)
12. I wouldn't trust either of them to look after my pets if I went on vacation.
Sun Oct 23, 2022, 11:54 PM
Oct 2022

I certainly wouldn't trust either of them to babysit a child.

Yet some people would trust them to run a country? Inconceivable.

GenThePerservering

(3,267 posts)
15. Sorry, but
Mon Oct 24, 2022, 01:13 AM
Oct 2022

""Sixty-three percent of registered Republicans believe that Sen. Ted Cruz (R-Texas), who ran for president in 2016, should have significant influence in the party’s direction, according to the poll. "

Cancun Cruz? Really?

I'm a little sceptical of this entire poll (well, it IS The Hill).

ETA: I see HTML might be a problem here - oops.

 

jaxexpat

(7,794 posts)
18. Truly a thing of great horror, but then, that's people for you.
Mon Oct 24, 2022, 07:07 AM
Oct 2022

It's a perfect setup for totalitarianism. It makes the "restorers of great civilizations" in post WWI Europe look like abject amateurs. Those guys were too dependent on their strong-arm tactics. The current Americanization of cultural darkness brutalizes relatively few, marginalizes the concerns of relatively many, all done with the casual yet passive/aggressive confirmation of a "majority".

How many among us have already experienced some form of "papers please" and hear the tacit "everything seems to be in order" with a slight inner sigh of relief? Is that inner "sigh" edged with inconvenience nee-desperation a bit more than last year? I graduate into another decade the last of this week and am here to confirm what P. Simon had to say on the matter when he sang, "How terribly strange to be 70". Though I'm not sure this is what he meant at the time because it's unlikely he had pre-knowledge of the relentless criticality, GIGO.

SergeStorms

(20,461 posts)
21. Both cut from the same cloth.
Mon Oct 24, 2022, 09:22 AM
Oct 2022

DeSatan wears it slightly better, but there's not much of a difference other than that.

sir pball

(5,336 posts)
25. No. DeSantis is much, much more intelligent and smarter - and that terrifies the fuck out of me
Mon Oct 24, 2022, 10:47 AM
Oct 2022

Trump was "was the dumbest goddam student I ever had”; DeSantis was magna cum laude at Yale and cum laude at Harvard Law, and did some pretty heavy work with the JAG Corps. Yes yes, I know that fancy degrees don't necessarily mean smarts, cf. GWB, but DeSantis isn't from the kind of family that would be gifted an Ivy degree…IIRC his dad installed Nielsen boxes, that's hardly Skull and Bones blood.

Mix that level of brains and competence with his sociopolitical beliefs and hunger for power and you get something that's almost immeasurably worse than the loony, barking ideologue that is Trump.

I hope and pray (to His Noodliness, thankyouverymuch) that there's still enough rabid, blind MAGAts to make Trump the nominee. He won't win, but DS is calm and "respectable" enough that he could easily be the different nominee that Mike Pence & co. might prefer.

StormKing

(243 posts)
26. It's a process
Tue Oct 25, 2022, 12:16 AM
Oct 2022

They nearly won the system with this idiot.

They come back with a smarter version of what almost worked and try again.

And if that almost works too they come back even smarter.

Just look how fast MAGA candidates went from outliers to winning GOP primaries easy.

CrispyQ

(40,904 posts)
22. I see a Truth Social trumper tantrum in about 3...2...1.
Mon Oct 24, 2022, 10:05 AM
Oct 2022



America’s Next Authoritarian Will Be Much More Competent
Trump was ineffective and easily beaten. A future strongman won’t be.

NOVEMBER 6, 2020
Zeynep Tufekci
Contributing writer at The Atlantic

https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2020/11/trump-proved-authoritarians-can-get-elected-america/617023/

snip...

Make no mistake: The attempt to harness Trumpism—without Trump, but with calculated, refined, and smarter political talent—is coming. And it won’t be easy to make the next Trumpist a one-term president.

I wish I had confidence that our DOJ will do something about it, but I don't.

intheflow

(30,152 posts)
23. We can shut this down if we can get him convicted of human trafficking.
Mon Oct 24, 2022, 10:13 AM
Oct 2022

Felony conviction? That makes you ineligible for the ballot. Too bad, so sad.

tavernier

(14,424 posts)
28. More Republicans trust drinking bleach to cure Covid
Thu Oct 27, 2022, 08:00 AM
Oct 2022

than sticking a neon lamp up their butt. But they are sure both will work because Fox News told them so.
😂😂

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