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Mr.Mystery

(185 posts)
Mon Oct 24, 2022, 04:24 PM Oct 2022

Alito Assured Ted Kennedy in 2005 of Respect for Roe v. Wade, Diary Says

Source: New York Times

Senator Edward M. Kennedy looked skeptically at the federal judge. It was Nov. 15, 2005, and Samuel A. Alito Jr., who was seeking Senate confirmation for his nomination to the Supreme Court, had just assured Mr. Kennedy in a meeting in his Senate office that he respected the legal precedent of Roe v. Wade, the 1973 court decision that legalized abortion.

“I am a believer in precedents,” Judge Alito said, in a recollection the senator recorded and had transcribed in his diary. “People would find I adhere to that.”

In the same conversation, the judge edged further in his assurances on Roe than he did in public. “I recognize there is a right to privacy,” he said, referring to the constitutional foundation of the decision. “I think it’s settled.”

But Mr. Kennedy, a Massachusetts Democrat and longtime supporter of abortion rights, remained dubious that November day that he could trust the conservative judge not to overturn the ruling. He brought up a memo that Judge Alito had written as a lawyer in the Reagan administration Justice Department in 1985, which boasted of his opposition to Roe.



Read more: https://www.nytimes.com/2022/10/24/us/politics/alito-kennedy-abortion.html



Well, it looks like Alito effing lied like an SOB on that one . . . I wonder how these judges can expect the truth from others in their courts when they lie like the very devil themselves.
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Alito Assured Ted Kennedy in 2005 of Respect for Roe v. Wade, Diary Says (Original Post) Mr.Mystery Oct 2022 OP
I'd say put a black robe on a weasel The Unmitigated Gall Oct 2022 #1
None of the Rebl2 Oct 2022 #2
A judge musclecar6 Oct 2022 #3
Alito Mr. Weirdo Casady1 Oct 2022 #4
Nothing wrong with Guy Lombardo and everything OK with Weed and the Grateful Dead. Scottie Mom Oct 2022 #5
T There is nothing wrong with Guy Casady1 Oct 2022 #7
Could be... Scottie Mom Oct 2022 #9
What you are saying is that Alito has Ted Cruz Syndrome. Dustlawyer Oct 2022 #8
This message was self-deleted by its author left-of-center2012 Oct 2022 #6
This message was self-deleted by its author Mr.Mystery Oct 2022 #10
Sam Alito untrustworthy, I'm shocked. plimsoll Oct 2022 #11
Alito is an ass hole liar! BlueJac Oct 2022 #12
Alito is a Medieval ecclesiastic who no doubt believes in the Noble Lie Hekate Oct 2022 #13
We should have learned by now not to believe ANYTHING a consrvative says. world wide wally Oct 2022 #14
Of course he lied atreides1 Oct 2022 #15
in other words Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Oct 2022 #16
I Hate To Say This, But... GB_RN Oct 2022 #17
Keeping people riled up is a worthy objective in itself-- DemocraticPatriot Oct 2022 #21
Sen. Kennedy was so smart CountAllVotes Oct 2022 #18
Well I guess that would make him a fucking liar? Imagine that. Imagine the other lies over decades. Evolve Dammit Oct 2022 #19
Alito...not much of a mench tonekat Oct 2022 #20
Kick Omaha Steve Oct 2022 #22
It seems conservatives and Republican politicians are pretty much all liars... Trust_Reality Oct 2022 #23
K & R ...Is there a penalty for a supreme court judge lying to everyone about important matters? Stuart G Oct 2022 #24

The Unmitigated Gall

(4,710 posts)
1. I'd say put a black robe on a weasel
Mon Oct 24, 2022, 04:31 PM
Oct 2022

And you’ve got Sammy, but of course it’s an insult to the weasel.

Rebl2

(17,930 posts)
2. None of the
Mon Oct 24, 2022, 04:32 PM
Oct 2022

right wing Supreme Court justice’s believes precedents. I believe that is obvious.

musclecar6

(1,884 posts)
3. A judge
Mon Oct 24, 2022, 04:58 PM
Oct 2022


Is just a person. If they’re a right wing nut that doesn’t give a fuck about anything except whatever the fuck they want to do, well that’s just what they’re gonna do. Yes a judge has the power but they’re not necessarily any fucking good. Same as any other occupation.
 

Casady1

(2,133 posts)
4. Alito Mr. Weirdo
Mon Oct 24, 2022, 04:58 PM
Oct 2022

When the rest of us were smoking weed and listening to Hendrix and the Grateful Dead Alito was sitting at home on New Year's eve and listening to Guy Lombardo. I wonder how surprised he will be when he reaches the "pearly Gates" and is sent to SATAN.

Scottie Mom

(5,838 posts)
5. Nothing wrong with Guy Lombardo and everything OK with Weed and the Grateful Dead.
Mon Oct 24, 2022, 05:05 PM
Oct 2022

Alito is just a hateful woman hater who probably hates himself more than he hates anything or anyone else. This is the person who most likely excelled at everything and was not welcome anywhere. We have all seen these maladjusted egotistical self-haters who cover up with acting superior not have a clue as to why no one, not any one person, wants to be their friend.

 

Casady1

(2,133 posts)
7. T There is nothing wrong with Guy
Mon Oct 24, 2022, 05:30 PM
Oct 2022

and I like big band but it is really weird to be listening to Guy at home by yourself is weirdo stuff.

Response to Mr.Mystery (Original post)

Response to left-of-center2012 (Reply #6)

plimsoll

(1,690 posts)
11. Sam Alito untrustworthy, I'm shocked.
Mon Oct 24, 2022, 06:02 PM
Oct 2022

OK, not really. The guy took a victory lap and then said "Suck it libs," so lying to get the opportunity to do that would be no problem in his mind. I guess we should feel lucky that Thomas Torquemada did have much to say on abortion or we'd be putting women who miscarry on the rack. I mean if we're going to quote colonial and pre-colonial jurists for precedent go with the ones your really like.

world wide wally

(21,836 posts)
14. We should have learned by now not to believe ANYTHING a consrvative says.
Mon Oct 24, 2022, 06:40 PM
Oct 2022

Their only single goal is to manipulate you.
PERIOD

atreides1

(16,799 posts)
15. Of course he lied
Mon Oct 24, 2022, 06:51 PM
Oct 2022

He was trying to get a lifetime position and access to overturn Roe! He knew all he had to do was lie and then go talk to a man sitting in an armoire...to get forgiveness from his God!!!

GB_RN

(3,588 posts)
17. I Hate To Say This, But...
Mon Oct 24, 2022, 07:08 PM
Oct 2022

It doesn't matter a whit if he said it to Kennedy's face or said it under oath. He could have said ANYTHING short of "I will never, under any circumstances, ever, overturn Roe v. Wade", and it wouldn't be perjury. Even then, he could still probably get out from under a perjury charge by simply saying, "I looked at the arguments and I was forced to change my mind."

Bringing it back up at this point is pointless, unless it's to simply keep people riled up: He will never be charged with perjury, nor will he ever be impeached, much less convicted by the Senate.

Note: Before anyone attacks/flames me, I am NOT in any way defending this medieval cretin, I'm simply stating the facts.

 

DemocraticPatriot

(5,410 posts)
21. Keeping people riled up is a worthy objective in itself--
Mon Oct 24, 2022, 10:14 PM
Oct 2022

in 2022, 2023, 2024, and beyond!

It seems we are in for a very long fight on this issue, but now abortion is a more motivating wedge issue to OUR base, instead of theirs!

CountAllVotes

(22,240 posts)
18. Sen. Kennedy was so smart
Mon Oct 24, 2022, 07:15 PM
Oct 2022

He knew what questions to ask as he foresaw where America is today!

It is on record and there is no way to remove it!


RIP Senator Kennedy!


ROE V. WADE -------> YES

DON'T LET THEM TAKE IT AWAY!!!!!




Evolve Dammit

(21,817 posts)
19. Well I guess that would make him a fucking liar? Imagine that. Imagine the other lies over decades.
Mon Oct 24, 2022, 07:51 PM
Oct 2022

Trust_Reality

(2,296 posts)
23. It seems conservatives and Republican politicians are pretty much all liars...
Tue Oct 25, 2022, 12:34 AM
Oct 2022

except those who are blatant racists. But they will find something to lie about.

G - greed
O - oppression
P - profit

Stuart G

(38,726 posts)
24. K & R ...Is there a penalty for a supreme court judge lying to everyone about important matters?
Tue Oct 25, 2022, 06:27 PM
Oct 2022

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