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mahatmakanejeeves

(69,734 posts)
Tue Oct 25, 2022, 08:09 AM Oct 2022

Amazon delivery driver found dead after an apparent dog attack

Source: NBC News

Amazon delivery driver found dead after an apparent dog attack

Deputies in Ray County, Missouri, shot and killed two aggressive dogs after the man's body was found. His wounds were consistent with an animal attack, the sheriff said.

Oct. 25, 2022, 12:34 AM EDT
By Joe Studley

A delivery driver for Amazon was found dead after an apparent animal attack Monday in Missouri, and deputies shot and killed two aggressive dogs, the Ray County sheriff said.

Deputies were called to a home in Excelsior Springs, a town of around 10,000, around 7 p.m. after neighbors reported that an Amazon van had been parked there for several hours, Sheriff Ray Childers said.

A man's body was found in a yard, as were two highly aggressive dogs, he said. Deputies shot and killed the animals. ... The man’s identity was not immediately disclosed. ... The medical examiner will determine the cause of death, Childers said, but the victim's injuries were consistent with being attacked by an animal. ... His family was being notified Monday night, the sheriff said.

The owners of the residence were not home, and it appears they are out of town, Childers said.

Read more: https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/amazon-delivery-driver-found-dead-apparent-dog-attack-rcna53834

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Amazon delivery driver found dead after an apparent dog attack (Original Post) mahatmakanejeeves Oct 2022 OP
Omg UpInArms Oct 2022 #1
I have read about dog attack several times this week randr Oct 2022 #2
😂 Traildogbob Oct 2022 #5
I took John Ludi Oct 2022 #3
Serious felony charges, civil suits, & long jail time should be in the dog owners' immediate future. NBachers Oct 2022 #4
This is on top of being a shitty place to work! wolfie001 Oct 2022 #6
Here is an old story about friendly family dog ripping the legs off a baby. spike jones Oct 2022 #7
it scares the bejezzuz out of me when i see those OH ARENT THEY CUTE dog/baby photos samnsara Oct 2022 #11
I think the baby paid the ultimate price for the dog just being a dog. spike jones Oct 2022 #13
Not Joinfortmill Oct 2022 #28
A person I know Marthe48 Oct 2022 #8
I hope the owners have money which the widow, children or family could use. lark Oct 2022 #9
The owners appeared to be out of town... intheflow Oct 2022 #10
my dogs are never allowed outside when im not home. we have a fenced in yard samnsara Oct 2022 #12
"Amazon Hires Dog To Discipline Underperforming Drivers." Aristus Oct 2022 #14
Way too early Pas-de-Calais Oct 2022 #23
It actually wasn't meant to be flippant, but a commentary on the insane conditions Aristus Oct 2022 #24
+1 orangecrush Oct 2022 #26
Owners of these dogs need to be held accountable JI7 Oct 2022 #15
I had a very large paper route when I was a kid. There were a number of aggressive dogs CentralMass Oct 2022 #16
My Amazon driver gives my dogs biscuits everytime he comes womanofthehills Oct 2022 #17
I had this problem once when I worked for UPS Bengus81 Oct 2022 #18
OMG How horrific! The terror and fear he must have felt! I feel so bad for him and his family... liberalla Oct 2022 #19
Excelsior Springs is one of those small midwest towns leftyladyfrommo Oct 2022 #20
We get a lot of deliveries here from various carriers Bayard Oct 2022 #21
Sure, if they encounter an unconfined dog, Disaffected Oct 2022 #25
House had a doggy door. LisaL Oct 2022 #31
These dogs could go in and out of doggy door. LisaL Oct 2022 #30
No, Amazon is NOT responsible for irresponsible dog owners Genki Hikari Oct 2022 #36
Wow.. I cant believe you are blaming Amazon. honest.abe Oct 2022 #38
So many people don't control their dogs or train them. r/o SoBlueInFL Oct 2022 #22
I had a similar experience. wnylib Oct 2022 #34
I'm so sorry you had to deal with it too. Some people shouldn't own pets. And, as for calling r/o SoBlueInFL Oct 2022 #35
I see a lawsuit in their future. Joinfortmill Oct 2022 #27
The dogs were a German shepherd and an English mastiff IcyPeas Oct 2022 #29
it could have been catsudon Oct 2022 #32
I have a very protective dog MissB Oct 2022 #33
There are just too many killer dogs out there. honest.abe Oct 2022 #37

UpInArms

(54,947 posts)
1. Omg
Tue Oct 25, 2022, 08:18 AM
Oct 2022

That is tragic and criminal on the dog owners part … to leave vicious dogs loose in your yard and go out of town with deliveries to be made is wrong wrong wrong … put a dropbox on the other side of the fence or a sign that refuses any delivery, but don’t have someone think they should enter a yard with “guard” dogs …

randr

(12,644 posts)
2. I have read about dog attack several times this week
Tue Oct 25, 2022, 08:28 AM
Oct 2022

The problem appears to be escalating. Maybe we should make laws to allow every home to have vicious dogs?

John Ludi

(599 posts)
3. I took
Tue Oct 25, 2022, 08:39 AM
Oct 2022

a Saturday rural delivery route as a semi-retired fun-thing-to-do (theoretically) for a carrier who will go without mention. It sucked, frankly. It made me want to be an office dweller again.

Out in the rural areas almost everyone has a dog...or several...and sometimes they are VERY territorial and aggressive. I bought dog treats with me everywhere and that worked to make the doggies like me 95% of the time, but there were others that I wouldn't even get out of the truck around...I'd just make a note that said "Dog" and bail. A potentially dangerous and generally high pressure gig between the dogs and the roads and the size and weight and abundance of some of the packages. I no longer wonder why deliveries are sometimes late or show up in odd locations...and it's high on the list of things I'll never do again.

NBachers

(19,429 posts)
4. Serious felony charges, civil suits, & long jail time should be in the dog owners' immediate future.
Tue Oct 25, 2022, 08:40 AM
Oct 2022

samnsara

(18,767 posts)
11. it scares the bejezzuz out of me when i see those OH ARENT THEY CUTE dog/baby photos
Tue Oct 25, 2022, 09:27 AM
Oct 2022

....dogs are our fur kids, fuzz buddies, and best friends but they are ANIMALS!!!! And whenever one of those oh so cute photos go wrong.....the dog pays the ultimate price.


...for just being a dog...

Marthe48

(23,150 posts)
8. A person I know
Tue Oct 25, 2022, 09:22 AM
Oct 2022

was attacked by a dog when he tried to deliver a package. He isn't the first delivery person the dog attacked and bit. The last I heard, that address is on a no delivery list.

R.I.P. delivery driver.

lark

(26,074 posts)
9. I hope the owners have money which the widow, children or family could use.
Tue Oct 25, 2022, 09:22 AM
Oct 2022

Sue the owners for every dime possible. They left vicious dogs where they could harm others - they need to pay the price as they effectively murdered this man.

intheflow

(30,173 posts)
10. The owners appeared to be out of town...
Tue Oct 25, 2022, 09:24 AM
Oct 2022

which begs the question: for how long? How long had it been since the dogs had eaten? I don't let my dogs stay out in my fenced yard when I'm not home. These owner need to be found and held accountable.

samnsara

(18,767 posts)
12. my dogs are never allowed outside when im not home. we have a fenced in yard
Tue Oct 25, 2022, 09:31 AM
Oct 2022

...and a dog door to a kennel when they need to 'go' and im 'gone'. But Good Goddess there are way too many things a dog can do, eat, chew, dig when they are unsupervised.

Aristus

(72,152 posts)
24. It actually wasn't meant to be flippant, but a commentary on the insane conditions
Tue Oct 25, 2022, 03:04 PM
Oct 2022

Amazon employees are required to work under, and the draconian punishments they face.

JI7

(93,578 posts)
15. Owners of these dogs need to be held accountable
Tue Oct 25, 2022, 09:40 AM
Oct 2022

Not sure what type of punishment if any they have received in previous cases of attacks .

CentralMass

(16,964 posts)
16. I had a very large paper route when I was a kid. There were a number of aggressive dogs
Tue Oct 25, 2022, 09:55 AM
Oct 2022

on the route and a few clueless owners.. I had customers with fenced in yards that would leave their dog(s) out and insisted that I open their gate, walk across their lawn, and put the paper between their front doors. When the owner has to spend 15 minutes with you to show how friendly their dog is it is generally an indication that their dog is a problem. Over the 3 years I had that route I was bitten several times. In a few cases it was getting knipped in the calf while on my bike. In a few other cases on the hand or forearm.

womanofthehills

(10,988 posts)
17. My Amazon driver gives my dogs biscuits everytime he comes
Tue Oct 25, 2022, 10:09 AM
Oct 2022

They see his truck and they wag their tails. I’m sure he does it to befriend all the dogs on his route - to hopefully protect himself. My dogs are behind a 6 ft along the side of the house area so he gives them treats thru the fence.

Bengus81

(10,157 posts)
18. I had this problem once when I worked for UPS
Tue Oct 25, 2022, 10:34 AM
Oct 2022

This was in the early 80's when there was no such thing as just dropping off a package,all of them required a signature. A home with a fenced front yard had two dogs like in this article. I took the package back to the UPS center and talked to my supervisor. He said if those dogs were out the next day then FUCK EM,bring it back and we'll return it to the shipper as undeliverables.

Yeah,of course the same two dogs were out the next day.............

liberalla

(11,085 posts)
19. OMG How horrific! The terror and fear he must have felt! I feel so bad for him and his family...
Tue Oct 25, 2022, 11:06 AM
Oct 2022

What will be the explanation by the owners... how long have they been gone? While they were gone, was someone responsible for their food, water and care? Did that person screw up?
What the hell happened here?

leftyladyfrommo

(20,000 posts)
20. Excelsior Springs is one of those small midwest towns
Tue Oct 25, 2022, 11:26 AM
Oct 2022

That is all pghly wiggly with all kinds of little old houses that were built wherever. Lots of really sort of uneducated folks living there. Lots of rednecks and big trucks.

This doesn't really surprise me. Everybody thinks they need a mean dog to protect their trash filled property.

Bayard

(29,617 posts)
21. We get a lot of deliveries here from various carriers
Tue Oct 25, 2022, 11:35 AM
Oct 2022

If we are home, the dogs run our front, barking furiously. If we are not home, dogs are always in the house. The Pyrs are huge, with huge barks, and very intimidating if you don't know them. But our front gates are always locked anyway. Drivers leave packages there. We have no problem with that, even if they are very heavy (yesterday--a 5 gallon bucket of linseed oil), and the house is a quarter mile from the gate. We have the gates locked as much for our dogs protection as anything, so no one lets them out.

I'm thinking Amazon is ultimately responsible here. Tell their drivers that if they see a dog inside a fence, even a itsy bitsy cute one, don't go in. Leave the package at the gate. If the dog in not inside a fence, you are dealing with an irresponsible owner and all bets are off. Open the truck door, and throw the package out.

Disaffected

(6,391 posts)
25. Sure, if they encounter an unconfined dog,
Tue Oct 25, 2022, 03:09 PM
Oct 2022

leave the package at the gate or, if they are in their vehicle up the driveway, drop the package out the window.

However, a dog(s)'s presence may not be apparent when the driver exits the vehicle as it may be around the house somewhere or come charging out of a dog house or dog door etc.

If I were a driver (which I was once as I used to do injured wildlife captures and pickups), I would drive up, honk the horn, wait a bit and if dogs were present open the door a bit to gauge how friendly there actually were. Even then it was a bit dicey at times as the mood of a dog can change suddenly especially if you approach the house.

If I were doing such work again, I think I would carry bear spray as well.

LisaL

(47,421 posts)
31. House had a doggy door.
Tue Oct 25, 2022, 05:09 PM
Oct 2022

When police arrived on the scene, dogs retreated into the house through the doggy door. So these dogs were able to go in and out of the house as they pleased.

LisaL

(47,421 posts)
30. These dogs could go in and out of doggy door.
Tue Oct 25, 2022, 05:08 PM
Oct 2022

The driver likely didn't even see them in the yard because they could have been in the house until he came to deliver the package.

 

Genki Hikari

(1,766 posts)
36. No, Amazon is NOT responsible for irresponsible dog owners
Wed Oct 26, 2022, 05:21 PM
Oct 2022

Don't even go there, especially when we know nothing of the particulars, such as the setting--like if there were a fence, or it the dogs were readily visible.

And so on.

 

honest.abe

(9,238 posts)
38. Wow.. I cant believe you are blaming Amazon.
Wed Oct 26, 2022, 07:26 PM
Oct 2022

Delivery drivers are required to deliver packages to a person's door. If the person's house is "booby trapped" with killer dogs the home owner is clearly responsible. I hope in this situation the home owner is charged with at least manslaughter.

SoBlueInFL

(191 posts)
22. So many people don't control their dogs or train them. r/o
Tue Oct 25, 2022, 11:35 AM
Oct 2022

My husband and I were walking a nature trail on Sunday when we met a woman and her three dogs coming towards us. Two of the dogs were on spool leashes and they charged at us and the third dog was unleashed and charged. She quickly reeled in the leashed dogs but not before they got uncomfortably close and the third dog took off running. Her bellowing the dog's name did nothing to make it stop.

That was only the latest instance of rude dog encounters. I can't walk in my own neighborhood because most people walk their dogs off-leash. I'm dead sick of walking into my own front yard and having a dog being walked just charge me out of nowhere.

I love dogs but I often hate their owners. An untrained dog is a danger to others and itself.

wnylib

(25,942 posts)
34. I had a similar experience.
Wed Oct 26, 2022, 05:54 AM
Oct 2022

There is a picnic area near a creek and wooded lot on the campus of a local college. The woods have trails for nature walks. I used to go there on summer afternoons for a walk and then a snack at a picnic table, with a book to read. Enjoyed the quiet setting.

One early evening, still light enough to read, a couple Dobermans came barreling out of a woods trail, snarling and headed straight for me. My car was too far away to take cover inside. Then a man and woman appeared behind the dogs and called them back just before they reached me. Fortunately, they were well trained and ran back to their people who put them on leashes. They started walking toward me with the dogs, laughing like it was all a big joke. No apologies. They appeared to enjoy intimidating me.

I did not wait for them to reach me and got into my car. This was before cell phones or I would have immediately called police.


SoBlueInFL

(191 posts)
35. I'm so sorry you had to deal with it too. Some people shouldn't own pets. And, as for calling r/o
Wed Oct 26, 2022, 10:54 AM
Oct 2022

the police, around here I would have ended up on the receiving end of their malice. In NW FL, they would never side with someone complaining about aggressive dogs on a trail. Leash laws are a joke.

IcyPeas

(25,467 posts)
29. The dogs were a German shepherd and an English mastiff
Tue Oct 25, 2022, 04:39 PM
Oct 2022

The dogs were a German shepherd and an English mastiff, NBC affiliate KSHB of Kansas City reported.

catsudon

(904 posts)
32. it could have been
Tue Oct 25, 2022, 05:48 PM
Oct 2022

a ups , usps, or fedex.... but chances are good with amazon due to everyone buying from amazon.

i think doordash / ubereats driver are next because they carry actual food.

MissB

(16,344 posts)
33. I have a very protective dog
Tue Oct 25, 2022, 09:14 PM
Oct 2022

My property is fenced and my main pedestrian gate is locked. By “main” I mean the one that nearly everyone recognizes as the gate one would use. UPS and USPS deliver items to that gate, which has a sign that says “leave packages here”. UPS loves my dogs and even my super protective pup likes the current guy.

Amazon can’t seem to figure it out and always tries to come through the gate. I finally decided to have my Amazon packages sent to their nearest hub, though there are a few things they still need to deliver here. I think they’ve actually leaped over the gate before.

FedEx goes to my other unmarked driveway and uses a gate there. So far the dogs have been inside. I track any deliveries that FedEx has for me very carefully. The pedestrian gate is not at all obvious, and I don’t really want to put a sign there.

My dogs aren’t loose in the yard when I’m gone. They’re in kennels inside. My protective pup is also well trained to heel, but frankly I’d rather not find out in the moment of a delivery.

Stories like this bother the heck out of me.

 

honest.abe

(9,238 posts)
37. There are just too many killer dogs out there.
Wed Oct 26, 2022, 06:58 PM
Oct 2022

What will it take to make people realize owning dogs like this is simply unacceptable? Owners need to be held accountable. At the very least manslaughter charges in situations like this. Maybe that will catch their attention.

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