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Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin

(135,718 posts)
Tue Oct 25, 2022, 01:38 PM Oct 2022

Trump company loses bid to toss initial jury pool in criminal trial

Source: Reuters

NEW YORK (Reuters) - Former U.S. President Donald Trump's company on Tuesday lost a bid to dismiss an initial group of 18 prospective jurors for the real estate firm's criminal trial on tax fraud charges after arguing that the pool was tainted by observing one juror candidate who said she was biased.

The Manhattan district attorney's office last year charged the Trump Organization and Allen Weisselberg, its then-chief financial officer, with awarding "off the books" benefits to some senior executives, enabling certain employees to understate their taxable compensation and the company to evade payroll taxes. Weisselberg in August pleaded guilty to charges including grand larceny and tax fraud while admitting to concealing $1.76 million in income.

During the first day of jury selection on Monday, one juror candidate who said in open court that she had strong feelings about Trump that would prevent her from being fair in the trial was called to Judge Juan Merchan's bench for a private discussion, and then dismissed from the pool.

Michael van der Veen, a lawyer for the Trump Organization, said on Tuesday before the jury entered that the other jurors in the pool were "visibly chilled" by observing that interaction and may not have answered the question honestly.

Read more: https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/trump-company-loses-bid-to-toss-initial-jury-pool-in-criminal-trial/ar-AA13muba

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Trump company loses bid to toss initial jury pool in criminal trial (Original Post) Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Oct 2022 OP
Sounds serious FredGarvin Oct 2022 #1
LOL! True Blue American Oct 2022 #3
So this juror did what she was legally obliged to do, via a process playing out across the USA Hugh_Lebowski Oct 2022 #2
Right. Like there was a penalty for being honest. Raven123 Oct 2022 #4
And if this juror who expressed her prejudice against TFG had said nothing, no_hypocrisy Oct 2022 #5
Why don't they just ask for a bench trial? FakeNoose Oct 2022 #6
Because they'll lose that much quicker. eggplant Oct 2022 #8
Because it is a better bet melm00se Oct 2022 #13
Also jurors are a lot easier to threaten and intimidate than judges. louis-t Oct 2022 #14
Chiller. Kid Berwyn Oct 2022 #7
my favorite pastime catsudon Oct 2022 #9
This was an absolutely baseless effort. TomSlick Oct 2022 #10
unless a juror states they will always make decisions with bias SouthernDem4ever Oct 2022 #11
JFC, this happens during jury selection in every single trial Novara Oct 2022 #12
 

Hugh_Lebowski

(33,643 posts)
2. So this juror did what she was legally obliged to do, via a process playing out across the USA
Tue Oct 25, 2022, 01:44 PM
Oct 2022

every single day ... and that's unacceptable to IQ45 because he's SUCH a SPECIAL man, nothing 'normal' applies to him. He's entitled to special privileges, you see?

no_hypocrisy

(54,908 posts)
5. And if this juror who expressed her prejudice against TFG had said nothing,
Tue Oct 25, 2022, 02:15 PM
Oct 2022

the defendants would've later demanded a mistrial for her silence.

FakeNoose

(41,634 posts)
6. Why don't they just ask for a bench trial?
Tue Oct 25, 2022, 04:19 PM
Oct 2022

There's never going to be a "perfect" jury because everyone is prejudiced one way or the other.

melm00se

(5,161 posts)
13. Because it is a better bet
Wed Oct 26, 2022, 09:29 AM
Oct 2022

for a jury trial.

Getting 12 shots at empanelling one Trumpette to cause a hung jury is a better bet than finding 1 judge who will find the defendant not guilty.

TomSlick

(13,013 posts)
10. This was an absolutely baseless effort.
Tue Oct 25, 2022, 08:00 PM
Oct 2022

The excused juror did exactly what she was supposed to do. Maybe if she had gone into a rant explaining her "strong feelings," the panel may have been tainted but I see no reason why even that could not be cured by an instruction from the judge to the remaining panel.

I assume that TFG's lawyers believe there is not a sufficient number of MAGAts on the jury to be comfortable about the result.

SouthernDem4ever

(6,619 posts)
11. unless a juror states they will always make decisions with bias
Wed Oct 26, 2022, 05:54 AM
Oct 2022

meaning they will disregard the facts, then they should be excused. Otherwise, it's up to the prosecutors to make the case. And unless the juror is some weird brainwashed cultist, it sounds like a ploy to get out of jury duty.

Novara

(6,115 posts)
12. JFC, this happens during jury selection in every single trial
Wed Oct 26, 2022, 06:46 AM
Oct 2022

But then again, maybe the orange fuck hired "only the best" lawyers who don't know how jury trials work.

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