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Algernon Moncrieff

(5,790 posts)
Sun Oct 30, 2022, 09:24 AM Oct 2022

Kyrie Irving Defends Antisemitic Documentary and Conspiracy Theory

Source: The New York Times

Nets guard Kyrie Irving doubled down on his support of an antisemitic documentary and a “New World Order” conspiracy theory about secret societies during a testy news conference Saturday night, a day after his team’s owner chastised him for supporting the film.

The conspiracy theory, pushed by the Infowars host Alex Jones, falsely suggests that people in the government are working to enslave the human population by, among other methods, releasing viruses.

“History is not supposed to be hidden from anybody,” Irving said as he defended himself for posting a link on Twitter to the 2018 documentary “Hebrews to Negroes: Wake Up Black America,” which espouses several antisemitic tropes.

“Did I do anything illegal?” Irving said. “Did I hurt anybody? Did I harm anybody? Am I going out and saying that I hate one specific group of people?”

Read more: https://www.nytimes.com/2022/10/30/sports/basketball/kyrie-irving-antisemitic-conspiracy-theory.html

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Kyrie Irving Defends Antisemitic Documentary and Conspiracy Theory (Original Post) Algernon Moncrieff Oct 2022 OP
Whose hiding history? Lovie777 Oct 2022 #1
hair furhair's Fascist far-right strategy of inciting hate between ethnic groups... Justice matters. Oct 2022 #2
Not to worry, the answer to no hate speech laws is more and more free speech, and love! Alexander Of Assyria Oct 2022 #3
but having Kevin McCarthy stopdiggin Oct 2022 #5
See Canada.Was not done that way in Britain or Germany either or all of Europe. Alexander Of Assyria Oct 2022 #15
that the laws will be written, and interpreted stopdiggin Oct 2022 #16
another COMPLETELY llashram Oct 2022 #4
So tell me Traildogbob Oct 2022 #6
Kyrie Irving is a great player but he is a world class flake and an A-hole Botany Oct 2022 #7
my take on this. no he did nothing illegal. bullimiami Oct 2022 #8
But look on the bright side hot2na Oct 2022 #9
Bingo! paleotn Oct 2022 #11
I wonder how long until the Nets/NBA drop him sakabatou Oct 2022 #10
Oh, I remember this guy.... paleotn Oct 2022 #12
If I was owner of the Nets I'd look for ways to separate him... brush Oct 2022 #13
Idiots and racists abound in every profession nt RussBLib Oct 2022 #14
Defending anti-semitic propaganda? Wow. he's went off the deep end. rockfordfile Oct 2022 #17
I doubt he ever had enough sense to find the deep end Genki Hikari Nov 2022 #18
This is the first time I've ever even heard Genki Hikari Nov 2022 #19

Lovie777

(12,260 posts)
1. Whose hiding history?
Sun Oct 30, 2022, 09:32 AM
Oct 2022

not Jews nor Blacks, but the people who supports this are banning books or burning them and it ain't the Jews or Blacks doing it.

Justice matters.

(6,928 posts)
2. hair furhair's Fascist far-right strategy of inciting hate between ethnic groups...
Sun Oct 30, 2022, 09:38 AM
Oct 2022

must. be. stopped. Mr. Garland.

 

Alexander Of Assyria

(7,839 posts)
3. Not to worry, the answer to no hate speech laws is more and more free speech, and love!
Sun Oct 30, 2022, 09:46 AM
Oct 2022

Its been working great so far!?

stopdiggin

(11,302 posts)
5. but having Kevin McCarthy
Sun Oct 30, 2022, 10:29 AM
Oct 2022

(and Ted Cruz?) decide what constitutes free speech is - clearly the better path?

(so, absolutely - let's give the authoritarians another stick to swing!)

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Alexander Of Assyria

(7,839 posts)
15. See Canada.Was not done that way in Britain or Germany either or all of Europe.
Mon Oct 31, 2022, 09:18 AM
Oct 2022

Americans are such navel gazers!?

Why is the current American democracy so afraid that protecting democracy with hate speech laws will be written by fascists? Not to mention such laws are interpreted by the courts, and juries, and if the fascists are writing these laws isn’t all lost anyway at that point?

stopdiggin

(11,302 posts)
16. that the laws will be written, and interpreted
Mon Oct 31, 2022, 03:16 PM
Oct 2022

be those that are in power - seems fairly self-evident to a lot of us. Not sure why the simple logic (not to mention plenty of history) behind that would be so triggering ...

llashram

(6,265 posts)
4. another COMPLETELY
Sun Oct 30, 2022, 10:10 AM
Oct 2022

deluded human being(barely on the human part). He and Ye might as well start their own faction of the racist GQP. Black people who hate themselves faction..."Massa, Massa they ran that way, ungrateful ......."!!!

Traildogbob

(8,731 posts)
6. So tell me
Sun Oct 30, 2022, 10:32 AM
Oct 2022

Where is the blonde Fox Bubble head Kelly with the “Shut Up and Dribble” ranting? Writing Christmas wishes to white Santa, to celebrate the birthday of White Jesus by spending thousands of crap for people other than White Jesus. That about the size of it? Christmas is about a famous Jew, right? Not white either. Spoke no English. Was “Homeless” at birth. His mother committed adultery. He hung with sick and poor. Never said let the old folks die to help economy. Never mentioned trickle down economy. HATED GREEDY RICH FOLK. Took zero cooperate money to campaign.
So STFU kyYE!!! “Yippie KyYE mother fucker”, quote from a bad ass!

Botany

(70,501 posts)
7. Kyrie Irving is a great player but he is a world class flake and an A-hole
Sun Oct 30, 2022, 10:35 AM
Oct 2022

He left the Cavs because he got tired of playing with one of the best players in history,
he thinks the world is flat, and thinks he knows more about microbiology them Dr. Fauci.

It is because of a-holes the C-19 pandemic is still going on and on.

BTW with LeBron he played in 3 or 4 straight championship series with the last one
having James pass the ball to him so he could take the winning shot ... which he missed.

bullimiami

(13,087 posts)
8. my take on this. no he did nothing illegal.
Sun Oct 30, 2022, 10:41 AM
Oct 2022

as far as his career in basketball.
i suppose that should depend on his ability to play basketball. not his beliefs.
if his actions affect the team in a negative way thats another consideration.

as far as endorsements and advertisers.
that is all perception, visuals and what value his personality and name provide.
they have no obligation to him and if they dont like this association should be free to drop him.

hot2na

(357 posts)
9. But look on the bright side
Sun Oct 30, 2022, 11:32 AM
Oct 2022

At least he isn't taking a knee during the National Anthem (SNARK!!!)

I know Colin Kaepernick. Colin Kaepernick is a friend of ours. Kyrie Irving you are no Colin Kaepernick!

paleotn

(17,912 posts)
12. Oh, I remember this guy....
Sun Oct 30, 2022, 01:01 PM
Oct 2022

Couldn't care less about the NBA so that didn't ring a bell with me. But where have I heared that name? Oh, yea, I remember. He's a flat earther and a certifiable nut. A complete maroon.

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/06/08/movies/kyrie-irving-nba-celtics-earth.html

brush

(53,776 posts)
13. If I was owner of the Nets I'd look for ways to separate him...
Sun Oct 30, 2022, 05:47 PM
Oct 2022

from the team ASAP. None of this antisemitic crap would be tolerated. He's regularly shown nothing but a Dunning-Kruger effect idiot, and as with his covid vaccine refusal an flat Earther foolishness, he's wrong again.

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