Why Xi Jinping publicly rebuked Justin Trudeau, and what it means for Canada's relations with China

[paleotn]

Source: CBC

Xi Jinping's threatening rebuke of Justin Trudeau was a rare and surprising move by the Chinese president, and highlighted the disregard he has for the Canadian prime minister, according to some experts and former diplomats.

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According to the readout, during the brief discussion between the two leaders — who have been at odds over trade, China's arrest and detention of two Canadians and Canada's arrest and detention of a Chinese Huawei executive — Trudeau raised concerns about media reports that China covertly funded 11 candidates in the 2019 federal election.

But the two later crossed paths again in a public space in Bali, in full view of the media, which captured their exchange. Through an interpreter, Xi accused Trudeau of inappropriately leaking the content of their discussion, and also claimed that what was reported in the media was not an accurate reflection of their conversation.

Trudeau interrupted the Chinese leader, saying Canada believes in "free and open and frank dialogue," and that while they have disagreements, they should work together. However, Xi's translator didn't translate everything the president said.

According to a translation by The Canadian Press, Xi also told Trudeau that "we should have conversations in a respectful way, otherwise, the result can't be predicted."

After the exchange, the pair shook hands and parted ways.

Read more: https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/china-justin-trudeau-xi-1.6653939

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Careful, Xi. Though they may seem polite, these are the people who developed hockey. In WW1, the Germans were far more afraid of Canadians than Brits, French or American troops. Canadians had a bad habit of shooting first and taking no prisoners.

https://nationalpost.com/news/canada/the-forgotten-ferocity-of-canadas-soldiers-in-the-great-war

[Bernardo de La Paz]

1. Canadian sappers were legendary in WW1 for mining German fortifications. . . .nt

[paleotn]

6. Yep. Beware the quiet and polite....

...hardened by the cold.

[msongs]

2. one suspects xi is surrounded by butt kissing yes men most of the time...like trump nt

[oldsoftie]

3. Don't know how much "stuff" Canada gets from China, but pull out

Just like we should. QUIT giving them OUR money to use against us

[homegirl]

26. Amen!

We should avoid financing the Chinese stated intention to become the most powerful military and economy in the world. Let's stop being their biggest customer!

[montanacowboy]

4. During my horse business days

I had quite a lot of interaction with Canadians. Believe me Xi doesn't know what he is getting into. He badly misjudges them.

[Me.]

5. Xi Is In The "Too Big For His Britches" Phase Of His Chairmanship

[applegrove]

7. Canadian boys were from the country and used to winter and guns. My grandfather

had a cousin who was used to working lumber camps in the winter (when you cut trees). At his lumber camps you stringed multiple telephone lines to civilization in case someone got injured. Winter breaking branches destroy telephone lines. So the Canadians in WWI had telephone lines that worked on the front lines and did not go down after being bombed by artillery of the Germans. The Germans said the Canadian artillery was better because they could always triangulate their targets with those multiple working telephone lines. That cousin of my grandfather was made a brigadier general. An explanation not for the faint of heart but are the stories I was brought up on.

[Martin68]

8. Xi considers Canada a minor player on the world stage. In other words, Canada is neither a military

threat, nor aserious economic power. Beneath China's notice in the new Chinese World Order. Australia was the first to be designated that inferior status. Xi seems to have a Trumpian disdain of allies that he deems beneath his notice. He will live to regret that.

[Irish_Dem]

10. Russia and China think everyone else is inferior.

They want the world to know that and respect that they will soon be in charge.

[Martin68]

11. Very true. That will prove their undoing. Every country needs allies. Pride goeth before a fall.

Every Greek tragedy is preceded by hubris. Putin and Xi have encapsulated themselves in a bubble of lying sycophantic supporters. They will pay the supreme price for that. Trump did the same, as did Hitler.

[Irish_Dem]

13. China has "allies." The ones they bought in Africa and South America.

Dumped huge amounts of money in some countries.
Chinese military stationed there.

Right and of course Xi has Putin as his best friend, who has turned out to be a royal pain in the arse.
So China knows now it is the only perfect country in the world.

[argyl]

24. Those allies were hardly bought. They're building ports for the express purpose of....

Shipping needed minerals and raw materials back to China. The rates the Chinese banks are charging amount to usury. There is nothing at all charitable in what they're doing. Xi should sit down and shut up. He's hopelessly outmatched. I thought he was smarter than this. I guess I was wrong.
Africans in particular have been used horribly by the West. And they feel the time for them to join the other nations of the world as equal partners has come.
The Chinese won't get away with abusing Africa. Any port the Chinese build can easily be nationalized. As it should.
The Chinese Belt and Road project is turning into a money sucking boondoggle anyway.

[Irish_Dem]

25. Yes taking the valuable resources from poorer countries.

I did not mean to make it sound at all nice or charitable.

Xi is like Putin now, they have bought their own PR and think they are invincible world leaders.

I hope you are right and Africa will fight back.

[Irish_Dem]

9. Xi and Putin are in charge of the world now, and will give everyone their marching orders.

[Martin68]

12. Oh, they think they are in position to do that. They are in for a rude surprise. The West rallied

when Russian invaded Ukraine, and that is very bad omen for would-be Hitlers all over the world.

[Irish_Dem]

14. Exactly. You would think Xi would tone it down now.

But nope, like all narcissistic sociopaths, they have to double and triple down when reality hits them.

[Martin68]

15. Xi s in the same bubble Putin and Trump are in - one they created because of their own insecurities

and ambitions for supreme power.

[Irish_Dem]

16. They are ruthless psychopaths who will stop at nothing to gain power and wealth.

They are all extremely dangerous.

[Martin68]

18. But they have deep weaknesses buried in their psyches. Paranoia, need for approval, love of praise,

unable to deal with criticism, and a tendency to surround themselves with people who will always agree with them, no matter what. That ultimately places them in a cocoon of self-confirming confidence and well-being from which they have no contact with what is going on outside their very small world. Like Hitler in his bunker, they believe to the last that they are winning. I think that facade is harder to maintain with credibility in the modern world. Information gets around at such a speed. The main reason Putin, Xi, Kim, and his ilk control the internet content worth an iron hand. I'm afraid Musk might be the next Murdock if we aren't careful.

[Irish_Dem]

19. We may not have to worry about Musk much longer.

He appears to be in self destruct mode at the present.

Yes all your other points are correct.

[FakeNoose]

17. Luckily Chump is no longer a player on the world stage

Let's hope Pootie gets retired in the near future. I think we'll be dealing with Xi for a long time to come.

[former9thward]

20. Do you think we can win an Asian war?

The West "rallying" for Ukraine just meant giving Ukraine supplies and allowing Ukrainians to die. No Western troops have been used or will be.

[Martin68]

22. An "Asian War" will involve much more sophisticated defensive weapons than Ukraine had at the

beginning of the Russian invasion. They have large populations of dedicated citizens who will go to the from lines when called. The US role will involve cyberwarfare and satellite intelligence, plus robust sea and air support. American soldiers are neither required nor wanted, although we have significant troops on call in Japan if needed.

[Andy Canuck]

21. As a Canadian and a social democrat

the framing of the interaction pisses me off. I’m not a Trudeau fan, I’m to the left (NDP) of Trudeau but fuck me. It’s a thin skinned asshole dictator complaining about a “free press”. And then the “free press” takes Xi’s side. It’s almost as if they don’t want to be “free” anymore.

[XorXor]

23. I've been reading Joanna Chiu's book called "China Unbound" that discusses this and other issues

If you're into books and words, and are into geopolitical stuff, then I highly recommend giving that book a whirl.

[EndlessWire]

27. I think that Canada should

kick out those Chinese "info centers" they have placed throughout Canada. I didn't like the concept anyway, but now that China has shown its ass, it can be justified that there is simply no room for them in Canada.

I think Xi forgot they are there.

[Disaffected]

28. Not surprising.

When you have to slog through 10 months of winter and two months of tough sledding and fight off polar bears with icicles and tree branches, you do develop a kind of rugged survival instinct.