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catsudon

(863 posts)
Fri Nov 18, 2022, 05:16 PM Nov 2022

China pushes back on FBI claims of Chinese 'police stations' in U.S.

Source: reuters

FBI Director Christopher Wray told a Senate hearing on Thursday that it was "outrageous" that the Chinese government would attempt to set up a police presence in the United States, saying it "violates sovereignty and circumvents standard judicial and law enforcement cooperation processes."

Read more: https://www.reuters.com/world/china/china-pushes-back-fbi-claims-chinese-police-stations-us-2022-11-18/



here a picture of one in NYC


There are locations of overseas police stations here with phone numbers, this was advertised on a Chinese Canadian website:

https://www.dealmoon.ca/guide/4637

It includes 30 stations all over the world from France to US to Brazil, etc.

The names of countries are in Chinese but the addresses and phone numbers should be readable to English speakers.
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China pushes back on FBI claims of Chinese 'police stations' in U.S. (Original Post) catsudon Nov 2022 OP
WTAF? orangecrush Nov 2022 #1
LOL treestar Nov 2022 #2
??? Enforce what law? How? paleotn Nov 2022 #3
It was reported to have happened in Canada too. Reported a month ago.n/t applegrove Nov 2022 #4
i can read chinese, catsudon Nov 2022 #7
Rule #1: NEVER believe anything the CCP says AZLD4Candidate Nov 2022 #5
At least 14 countries are investigating Chinese "police stations" summer_in_TX Nov 2022 #6
Intimidation Stations XorXor Nov 2022 #8
Chinese Gazpacho Stations? Captain Zero Nov 2022 #9
Chinese Gazpacho Stations? Captain Zero Nov 2022 #10
Whatever we call them, they are not good. And from what I can tell, these are not tall tales XorXor Nov 2022 #11

paleotn

(18,412 posts)
3. ??? Enforce what law? How?
Fri Nov 18, 2022, 06:31 PM
Nov 2022

Is someone taking Wray's words out of context and starting an unfounded scare? Seems that way. One must remember, Chinese sometimes doesn't translate well into English.

catsudon

(863 posts)
7. i can read chinese,
Sat Nov 19, 2022, 08:58 AM
Nov 2022

they're there to enforce certain chinese laws.

it is very easy if you still have relatives back in China. they can strongly 'suggest' to you to do certain things, even have your parents call you from china with the presences of chinese 'public safety' officers.

there is a classic clip of this happening to a chinese girl in australia being harassed for posting on twitter.

that said, it is not as bad as north korea.

AZLD4Candidate

(5,997 posts)
5. Rule #1: NEVER believe anything the CCP says
Fri Nov 18, 2022, 09:44 PM
Nov 2022

The Chinese people are wonderful people and amazing neighbors to have again.

The CCP is garbage and even the Chinese people know it.

summer_in_TX

(2,838 posts)
6. At least 14 countries are investigating Chinese "police stations"
Sat Nov 19, 2022, 12:32 AM
Nov 2022

in their sovereign territory.

China accused of creating overseas ‘police stations’ to target dissidents

THE HAGUE, Netherlands (AP) — China has reportedly established dozens of “overseas police stations” in nations around the world that activists fear could be used to track and harass dissidents as part of Beijing’s crackdown on corruption.

Information about the outposts underscored concerns about the ruling Chinese Communist Party’s influence over its citizens abroad, sometimes in ways deemed illegal by other countries, as well as the undermining of democratic institutions and the the theft of economic and political secrets by bodies affiliated with the one-party state.

[Snip…]


The verification process is underway, and sometimes seems to be borne out while other cases seem to be mistaken. But if true, that's alarming.
https://www.pbs.org/newshour/world/china-accused-of-creating-overseas-police-stations-to-target-dissidents

XorXor

(655 posts)
8. Intimidation Stations
Sat Nov 19, 2022, 12:37 PM
Nov 2022

That seems like it could be an accurate description based on my understanding of their intent. Although, there have been reports of Chinese secret police types abducting Chinese nationals in smaller countries and then whisking them away to China.

Captain Zero

(7,122 posts)
9. Chinese Gazpacho Stations?
Sat Nov 19, 2022, 06:47 PM
Nov 2022

Seems like they are unauthorized 'consulates'. And should be addressed as such.

Captain Zero

(7,122 posts)
10. Chinese Gazpacho Stations?
Sat Nov 19, 2022, 06:53 PM
Nov 2022

Seems like they are unauthorized 'consulates'. And should be addressed as such. Also not assisting their nationals as we would expect but rather rounding up dissidents.

I suppose they could also function as spy stations, which most consulates and embassies probably do anyway.

XorXor

(655 posts)
11. Whatever we call them, they are not good. And from what I can tell, these are not tall tales
Sat Nov 19, 2022, 11:32 PM
Nov 2022

I've mentioned this book before, but Joanna Chiu's book titled "China Unbound: A New World Disorder" covers this and other unsettling reports. She's a Canadian citizen who grew up in Canada and who has done extensive research and interviews inside and outside China.


https://www.amazon.com/China-Unbound-New-World-Disorder/dp/1487007671

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