Fri Nov 18, 2022, 04:16 PM

catsudon (777 posts)

China pushes back on FBI claims of Chinese 'police stations' in U.S.

Source: reuters

FBI Director Christopher Wray told a Senate hearing on Thursday that it was "outrageous" that the Chinese government would attempt to set up a police presence in the United States, saying it "violates sovereignty and circumvents standard judicial and law enforcement cooperation processes."

Read more: https://www.reuters.com/world/china/china-pushes-back-fbi-claims-chinese-police-stations-us-2022-11-18/

here a picture of one in NYC

There are locations of overseas police stations here with phone numbers, this was advertised on a Chinese Canadian website:

https://www.dealmoon.ca/guide/4637

It includes 30 stations all over the world from France to US to Brazil, etc.

The names of countries are in Chinese but the addresses and phone numbers should be readable to English speakers.

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11 replies	Author	Time	Post
China pushes back on FBI claims of Chinese 'police stations' in U.S. (Original post)	catsudon	Nov 18	OP
WTAF?	orangecrush	Nov 18	#1
LOL	treestar	Nov 18	#2
??? Enforce what law? How?	paleotn	Nov 18	#3
It was reported to have happened in Canada too. Reported a month ago.n/t	applegrove	Nov 18	#4
i can read chinese,	catsudon	Nov 19	#7
Rule #1: NEVER believe anything the CCP says	AZLD4Candidate	Nov 18	#5
At least 14 countries are investigating Chinese "police stations"	summer_in_TX	Nov 18	#6
Intimidation Stations	XorXor	Nov 19	#8
Chinese Gazpacho Stations?	Captain Zero	Nov 19	#9
Chinese Gazpacho Stations?	Captain Zero	Nov 19	#10
Whatever we call them, they are not good. And from what I can tell, these are not tall tales	XorXor	Nov 19	#11

Response to catsudon (Original post)

Fri Nov 18, 2022, 04:47 PM

orangecrush (16,001 posts)

1. WTAF?

Spy cells is more like it.

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Response to catsudon (Original post)

Fri Nov 18, 2022, 04:51 PM

treestar (80,786 posts)

2. LOL

To enforce what law?

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Fri Nov 18, 2022, 05:31 PM

paleotn (15,291 posts)

3. ??? Enforce what law? How?

Is someone taking Wray's words out of context and starting an unfounded scare? Seems that way. One must remember, Chinese sometimes doesn't translate well into English.

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Response to paleotn (Reply #3)

Fri Nov 18, 2022, 06:01 PM

applegrove (111,027 posts)

4. It was reported to have happened in Canada too. Reported a month ago.n/t

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Response to paleotn (Reply #3)

Sat Nov 19, 2022, 07:58 AM

catsudon (777 posts)

7. i can read chinese,

they're there to enforce certain chinese laws.

it is very easy if you still have relatives back in China. they can strongly 'suggest' to you to do certain things, even have your parents call you from china with the presences of chinese 'public safety' officers.

there is a classic clip of this happening to a chinese girl in australia being harassed for posting on twitter.

that said, it is not as bad as north korea.

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Response to catsudon (Original post)

Fri Nov 18, 2022, 08:44 PM

AZLD4Candidate (4,182 posts)

5. Rule #1: NEVER believe anything the CCP says

The Chinese people are wonderful people and amazing neighbors to have again.

The CCP is garbage and even the Chinese people know it.

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Fri Nov 18, 2022, 11:32 PM

summer_in_TX (2,071 posts)

6. At least 14 countries are investigating Chinese "police stations"

in their sovereign territory.

China accused of creating overseas ‘police stations’ to target dissidents

THE HAGUE, Netherlands (AP) — China has reportedly established dozens of “overseas police stations” in nations around the world that activists fear could be used to track and harass dissidents as part of Beijing’s crackdown on corruption.

Information about the outposts underscored concerns about the ruling Chinese Communist Party’s influence over its citizens abroad, sometimes in ways deemed illegal by other countries, as well as the undermining of democratic institutions and the the theft of economic and political secrets by bodies affiliated with the one-party state.

[Snip…]

The verification process is underway, and sometimes seems to be borne out while other cases seem to be mistaken. But if true, that's alarming.
https://www.pbs.org/newshour/world/china-accused-of-creating-overseas-police-stations-to-target-dissidents

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Response to catsudon (Original post)

Sat Nov 19, 2022, 11:37 AM

XorXor (301 posts)

8. Intimidation Stations

That seems like it could be an accurate description based on my understanding of their intent. Although, there have been reports of Chinese secret police types abducting Chinese nationals in smaller countries and then whisking them away to China.

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Response to XorXor (Reply #8)

Sat Nov 19, 2022, 05:47 PM

Captain Zero (5,226 posts)

9. Chinese Gazpacho Stations?

Seems like they are unauthorized 'consulates'. And should be addressed as such.

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Response to XorXor (Reply #8)

Sat Nov 19, 2022, 05:53 PM

Captain Zero (5,226 posts)

10. Chinese Gazpacho Stations?

Seems like they are unauthorized 'consulates'. And should be addressed as such. Also not assisting their nationals as we would expect but rather rounding up dissidents.

I suppose they could also function as spy stations, which most consulates and embassies probably do anyway.

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Response to Captain Zero (Reply #10)

Sat Nov 19, 2022, 10:32 PM

XorXor (301 posts)

11. Whatever we call them, they are not good. And from what I can tell, these are not tall tales

I've mentioned this book before, but Joanna Chiu's book titled "China Unbound: A New World Disorder" covers this and other unsettling reports. She's a Canadian citizen who grew up in Canada and who has done extensive research and interviews inside and outside China.

https://www.amazon.com/China-Unbound-New-World-Disorder/dp/1487007671

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