Trump calls for the termination of the Constitution in Truth Social post
Source: CNN
(CNN)Former President Donald Trump called for the termination of the Constitution to overturn the 2020 election and reinstate him to power Saturday in a continuation of his election denialism and pushing of fringe conspiracy theories.
"Do you throw the Presidential Election Results of 2020 OUT and declare the RIGHTFUL WINNER, or do you have a NEW ELECTION? A Massive Fraud of this type and magnitude allows for the termination of all rules, regulations, and articles, even those found in the Constitution," Trump wrote in a post on the social network Truth Social and accused "Big Tech" of working closely with Democrats. "Our great 'Founders' did not want, and would not condone, False & Fraudulent Elections!"
Trump's post came after the release of internal Twitter emails showing deliberation in 2020 over a New York Post story about material found on Hunter Biden's laptop.
Read more: https://www.cnn.com/2022/12/03/politics/trump-constitution-truth-social/index.html
How is this not blaring all over Democratic media and forums?
This sick puppy just implicated himself for the January 6th mayhem.
The Roux Comes First
(2,278 posts)Every day, but wouldn't you think a family member or two would be desperately self-protecting enough to leave some capsules or something within reach?
EarnestPutz
(2,843 posts)....at last may finally see the real cause of his problems, the constitution. It isn't the "phony press" and "fake news", it isn't the 'out of control courts" and the "corrupt judges" and it isn't the "lying, cheating Democrats" and their "witch hunts". It's the Constitution that is his real enemy and now must be attacked.
orangecrush
(30,247 posts)"Well, crap like that will certainly ensure that he gets there
even though he's only saying what every obscenely rich but inconvenienced man has said at one time or another.
I'm glad he's saying it. I hope he starts saying it at his stupid rallies. People need to know this."
Thanks! Warpy!
mwb970
(12,149 posts)EarnestPutz
(2,843 posts)orangecrush
(30,247 posts)Not a big deal.
A former president just called for the Constitution to be shredded.
Nothing to see here.
Do I need the sarcasm thing?
True Blue American
(18,579 posts)Last edited Sun Dec 4, 2022, 03:04 PM - Edit history (1)
Asking that question of the old die hard Constitutional set in stone gang how they felt about that. You know the gun lovers, who say the right to carry guns can not be abridged.
This lunatic wants to throw the whole thing out because he lost an election in both votes and electoral.
Seriously this man needs to be where he can no longer cause harm.
orangecrush
(30,247 posts)marybourg
(13,640 posts)orangecrush
(30,247 posts)Response to orangecrush (Original post)
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Ocelot II
(130,516 posts)orangecrush
(30,247 posts)No, actually I don't
live love laugh
(16,383 posts)orangecrush
(30,247 posts)Nobody paid attention to that either
Tetrachloride
(9,622 posts)duforsure
(11,885 posts)Who is desperately trying to get attention away from his constant legal troubles, and his constant political losses, and loss of donors and followers. He wants his rule of law, his judicial system, and his Congress , like Putin has in russia , total control. Media needs to ignore him, and quit giving him publicity, except when he gets indicted .
cstanleytech
(28,470 posts)them into doing back in 2016.
Question is will they fall for it this time?
orangecrush
(30,247 posts)One Year After Trumps Election, Revisiting Autocracy: Rules for Survival
By Masha Gessen
November 8, 2017
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Ayear ago, panicked friends were writing to ask me what to do now that the United States had elected Donald Trump. Like Id know: I had spent years writing and organizing in opposition to Vladimir Putin, only to have to leave Russia. But a decade and a half in Putins Russia taught me something about living in an autocracy. I am familiar with the ways in which it numbs the mind and drains the spirit. I wrote a piece called Autocracy: Rules for Survival, which was published by The New York Review of Books and read by millions of people. Today seems a good day to look at how well my proposed rules have held up.
Rule No. 1: Believe the autocrat. I argued against the expectation that Trump would change in the months following the election, becoming somehow Presidential and abandoning his more extreme positions. This belief, it seemed to me, stemmed from the inability to absorb the fact of a Trump Presidency, and not from any historical precedents of similar transformations. The best predictors of autocrats and aspiring autocrats behavior are their own public statements, because these statements brought them to power in the first place.
https://www.newyorker.com/news/our-columnists/one-year-after-trumps-election-revisiting-autocracy-rules-for-survival
True Blue American
(18,579 posts)Jake Tapper actually blamed Democrats for the loss of sick days, showed Sherrod a complain from a Union member blaming them. Jake has become such a jerk. He will say anything to suck up to Chris Listz. Who is another joke. Brianna was the only show I watched, replaced. With Milquetoast and his 2 women. Worse than Scarborough.
ificandream
(11,837 posts)And really, I haven't seen that much.
And I think we should just call him an attention whore. Because that's what he is.
bucolic_frolic
(55,129 posts)Truth Serum!
JustABozoOnThisBus
(24,681 posts)... no, wait, never mind.
oath faker.
twodogsbarking
(18,774 posts)mwb970
(12,149 posts)I mean, my God.
truthisfreedom
(23,532 posts)Seems to be this nutjobs primary quest.
Escurumbele
(4,094 posts)2. All these things that are said, that sometimes make us laugh because of their absurdity, must be taken seriously. Part of the populist strategy is to create a culture throughout the country that does two things, one is to divide where republicans have succeeded and the other one is to create a hegemony in the culture to get people to think alike, to respond to mandates by the "leaders" and they do this by using the media (don't we always wonder why the media seems to work against Democracy?), education and other means to peacefully gain control, and its all done in the name of "Democracy" and "The People"...Remember when trump kept repeating "Only I can fix it", that is part of the dialect used by populists.
All the "Think-Tanks" republicans have is a conglomerate of intellectuals who think republicans must take full control of the country, that the Estate must govern in its totality. These people are very dangerous, some of them will realize later the damage they cause because one thing they have in common is believing that they, and their families, will be exempt from all the damage they create, to later find out they too will pay when their usefulness runs out.
In general, there are two types of populism, one that begins with "Socialism" rhetoric, and the other, which I found is the one republicans are following, is a more totalitarian methodology, but make no mistake, they both end up as fascism. Think about it, what kind of people have been the target of trump and the republicans? Who, besides some intellectuals, make up the base of the republican party? Very ignorant, easily manipulated people who lack independent thought.
We need to do a couple of things, one is to stop laughing about the stupidities trump and republican spew on a daily basis, because although they are off-the-wall, they do have an intent, and two, we need to stop publishing so much of what trump does because we only give him strength by doing so. I for one don't click on the videos of the buffoon, I may read the headline, but I refuse to listen to the jackass, he needs to be ignored, he needs to loose strength.
Kid Berwyn
(24,374 posts)Or are they corrupt, too?
Dopers_Greed
(2,647 posts)To find a quote to use for their "both sides" argument.
Kid Berwyn
(24,374 posts)How Americas Most Powerful News Media Worked Hand in Glove with the Central Intelligence Agency and Why the Church Committee Covered It Up
BY CARL BERNSTEIN
Rolling Stone, October 20, 1977
In 1953, Joseph Alsop, then one of Americas leading syndicated columnists, went to the Philippines to cover an election. He did not go because he was asked to do so by his syndicate. He did not go because he was asked to do so by the newspapers that printed his column. He went at the request of the CIA.
Alsop is one of more than 400 American journalists who in the past twenty‑five years have secretly carried out assignments for the Central Intelligence Agency, according to documents on file at CIA headquarters. Some of these journalists relationships with the Agency were tacit; some were explicit. There was cooperation, accommodation and overlap. Journalists provided a full range of clandestine servicesfrom simple intelligence gathering to serving as go‑betweens with spies in Communist countries. Reporters shared their notebooks with the CIA. Editors shared their staffs. Some of the journalists were Pulitzer Prize winners, distinguished reporters who considered themselves ambassadors without‑portfolio for their country. Most were less exalted: foreign correspondents who found that their association with the Agency helped their work; stringers and freelancers who were as interested in the derring‑do of the spy business as in filing articles; and, the smallest category, full‑time CIA employees masquerading as journalists abroad. In many instances, CIA documents show, journalists were engaged to perform tasks for the CIA with the consent of the managements of Americas leading news organizations.
The history of the CIAs involvement with the American press continues to be shrouded by an official policy of obfuscation and deception for the following principal reasons:
■ The use of journalists has been among the most productive means of intelligence‑gathering employed by the CIA. Although the Agency has cut back sharply on the use of reporters since 1973 primarily as a result of pressure from the media), some journalist‑operatives are still posted abroad.
■ Further investigation into the matter, CIA officials say, would inevitably reveal a series of embarrassing relationships in the 1950s and 1960s with some of the most powerful organizations and individuals in American journalism.
Among the executives who lent their cooperation to the Agency were Williarn Paley of the Columbia Broadcasting System, Henry Luce of Time Inc., Arthur Hays Sulzberger of the New York Times, Barry Bingham Sr. of the Louisville Courier‑Journal, and James Copley of the Copley News Service. Other organizations which cooperated with the CIA include the American Broadcasting Company, the National Broadcasting Company, the Associated Press, United Press International, Reuters, Hearst Newspapers, Scripps‑Howard, Newsweek magazine, the Mutual Broadcasting System, the Miami Herald and the old Saturday Evening Post and New York Herald‑Tribune.
By far the most valuable of these associations, according to CIA officials, have been with the New York Times, CBS and Time Inc.
Continues
https://www.carlbernstein.com/the-cia-and-the-media-rolling-stone-10-20-1977
AngryOldDem
(14,180 posts)Immediately thought it was an exaggeration. Nope. Should have known better.
Needless to say, this has ruined my day because I doubt anybody in the GOP will have the guts to denounce this, or Trump.
We are taking GIANT steps toward losing this country if people dont wake the fuck up SOON.
Kid Berwyn
(24,374 posts)the rest of the sordid Trump as Putins Puppet story makes perfect sense; and the nation would have solid proof demonstrating the similarly corrupt nature of the press.
orangecrush
(30,247 posts)Magoo48
(6,721 posts)Kid Berwyn
(24,374 posts)Thank Goodness for DU. From 2013:
Mass Media ignoring 'RFK Believed in Conspiracy' shows corrupt nature of America's Press
https://www.democraticunderground.com/10022416498
twodogsbarking
(18,774 posts)IronLionZion
(51,267 posts)it has clauses for emoluments and treason and sedition and even nonwhite citizenship.
karynnj
(60,965 posts)Totally new acts of sedition.
Bernardo de La Paz
(60,320 posts)Bernardo de La Paz
(60,320 posts)"conspire to ... oppose by force the authority thereof, or by force to prevent, hinder, or delay the execution of any law of the United States,"
If two or more persons in any State or Territory, or in any place subject to the jurisdiction of the United States, conspire to overthrow, put down, or to destroy by force the Government of the United States, or to levy war against them, or to oppose by force the authority thereof, or by force to prevent, hinder, or delay the execution of any law of the United States, or by force to seize, take, or possess any property of the United States contrary to the authority thereof, they shall each be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than twenty years, or both.
(June 25, 1948, ch. 645, 62 Stat. 808 ; July 24, 1956, ch. 678, §1, 70 Stat. 623 ; Pub. L. 103322, title XXXIII, §330016(1)(N), Sept. 13, 1994, 108 Stat. 2148 .)
https://uscode.house.gov/view.xhtml?req=granuleid:USC-1999-title18-section2384&num=0&edition=1999
twodogsbarking
(18,774 posts)NQAS
(10,749 posts)we're going to free speech ourselves to destruction.
Tommymac
(7,334 posts)Bunch of racist, misogynistic traitors.
They made him, they nurtured him, now they need to be put in the same bed with him.
Stuart G
(38,726 posts)Justice matters.
(9,785 posts)"and we have many instances to prove it" blah-blah-blah.
Hair furhair's last defense.
orangecrush
(30,247 posts)Unfortunately, he was ignored until it was far too late.
DemocraticPatriot
(5,410 posts)and a GOP party leader on Sunday morning news shows "condemns" it--
kicking and screaming and dissembling about it---
but says he will still support Trump in 2024, if he is the nominee.... LOL
(sorry, don't recall that congressman's name, and in 100 years, neither will anyone else--
unless perhaps he is charged with treason in the meantime)
Mz Pip
(28,454 posts)They are defending him saying the Constitution allows for extreme means in the face of such blatant tyranny as a fraudulent election.
And you cannot convince them otherwise. In their minds its Biden who is shredding the Constitution.