Trump's call to suspend Constitution not a 2024 deal-breaker, leading House Republican says

[groundloop]

Source: ABC News

Republican Ohio Rep. Dave Joyce said Sunday that he didn't want to be drawn into commenting on Donald Trump's recent call to suspend the Constitution over baseless claims of 2020 election fraud.

Joyce, the chair of the Republican Governance Group, a centrist group in the House, was asked by ABC "This Week" anchor George Stephanopoulos to respond to Trump's post on Saturday on his Truth Social platform. The former president wrongly asserted that the "massive fraud" -- which did not occur -- "allows for the termination of all rules, regulations, and articles, even those found in the Constitution."

Joyce initially declined to respond, saying he didn't know what Trump said on social media and that the public wasn't "interested in looking backwards." But Stephanopoulos pressed further, and Joyce ultimately said that Trump's comment should be taken "in context" but that it wouldn't prevent him from supporting Trump if he ends up winning the nomination.

"It's early. I think there's going to be a lot of people in the primary ... [but] I will support whoever the Republican nominee is," Joyce said while noting he didn't think Trump would manage to win the 2024 Republican presidential nomination because there are "a lot of other good quality candidates out there."



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Stephanopoulos called him out for promising to support someone who's come out for suspending the Constitution and he BS'ed around it.

[Ocelot II]

1. Many of them won't even disavow actual, admitted Nazis,

so what did we expect?

[TheRealNorth]

2. Can't say I did Nazi the Republicans saying that Trump suspending the constitution...

Was "no big deal"

[LudwigPastorius]

3. "Joyce, the chair of the Republican Governance Group, a centrist group in the House"

Bam. There it is.

The assumed center of the Republican party is A-OK with subverting the Constitution.

If there were any further doubt, the GOP is officially the Treason Party.

[chowder66]

4. +1

[I_UndergroundPanther]

11. All republicans are fascist

Thier platform is fascist and always has beeb they cover it up with flowery words. Just take republican beliefs and policy and follow it to its conclusion if you were to apply it to real life. This platform was the republican way of changing government before any of them moved farther right.

For instance one original platform was belief in a natural order. That's nazi bullshit right there and the republicans have always supported it even when they seemed centrist.

[COL Mustard]

19. Say it loud, say it often!

They have to be reminded of it, and their base has to own it. They elected these monsters. Swing voters and election skippers own some responsibility too.

[Fullduplexxx]

5. Inconvenient questions

[Marthe48]

6. I'm from Ohio

That s.o.b. does not represent me. He can go to hell with his wishywashy response. That he can't wholeheartedly support the system that is feeding his face tells it all.

[doc03]

7. Can someone still run for President when they call

for overturning the Constitution? (Article 6)

[Bernardo de La Paz]

8. Dave Joyce is skeered of the nutjob base. . . . nt

[Bernardo de La Paz]

10. Could be a calculation that tRump goes down and the less said at this time the better for him. . . n

[IcyPeas]

9. is there anything that would be a deal breaker for them? doesn't seem so. /nt

[Ocelot II]

12. If rubbing shoulders with Nazis isn't doing it I'm not sure what will.

Maybe if TFG grew a little mustache, dressed up in an old SS uniform and wiped his ass with the original Constitution on Fifth Avenue some of the GOPers might be motivated to express Susan Collins-ish concern?

[Haggis 4 Breakfast]

39. Anyone who continues to support trump

is human filth.

[Journeyman]

13. What's 'the context?' That he's a petulant man-child who shouldn't be taken seriously? . . .

No finer recommendation for their leading contender, I supposed. Little else to recommend him.

[Mz Pip]

38. That would be a good follow up question

In what context would talk like this be acceptable?

No one ever follows up with that. Sloppy journalism.

[Obvious85]

14. Republicans are disgusting, weak, spineless, integrity-less, pathetic losers

and those are their good qualities

[50 Shades Of Blue]

15. Of course not!

[frogmarch]

16. Clearly it also wouldn't stop Joyce

from supporting trump if trump shot someone on 5th Avenue.

Effing repukes.

[NullTuples]

17. Of course it isn't; they've been planning their Constitutional Convention for years.

It was mentioned as an eventual possible benefit of McConnell's Project Redmap (ie blatantly biased redistricting) that started in 2010.

[sprinkleeninow]

18. "I didn't know what he said on social media."

(MB he was only joking!)


Fool.

[Prairie_Seagull]

20. Every republican should be made to avow or disavow these statements.

It should be hung around their necks for eternity. I don't really know of a republican platform but one should be created where this is a serious plank. Oh yea and billionaire tax cuts.

[orangecrush]

21. Take Trump seriously

When he tells you what he wants to do.

You are hearing a former president calling for the destruction of democracy, and he wants to be the instrument of that destruction.

Let that sink in.

[EndlessWire]

33. I agree. n/t

[Red Pest]

22. So, what does EVERY member of Congress and every President swear?

They swear to defend the Constitution against ALL enemies, foreign and domestic. TFG has broken his oath and actively advocates the overthrow of the US Government to install himself as President. How about Rep. David Joyce? He can't bring himself to live up to his oath. He will support TFG if he is nominated. Wow, what a weak excuse for a chairman. Centerist group? Center of what? A fascist party, ready to do follow their petulant leader into a conspiracy to overthrow the elected government of the United States.

But wait there is more - these poor excuses for representative democracy also ignore the blatant bigotry that TFG represents. Dinner with anti-Semites and racists and no condemnation. Still willing to support TFG - what a profile in courage! Well thank you for removing all doubt Rep. Joyce. If you can't say enough to these fascists and indicate that you are willing to support them, what does that make you? It makes you a fascist!!!

[Evolve Dammit]

23. A fascist movement spawned by an Orange "Chosen One." Fuck them all

[Initech]

24. There is no rock bottom for these assholes.

Heckling the parents of murdered children didn't do it. Going full Nazi once didn't do it. An attempted overthrow of the government and trying to murder half of Congress didn't do it. Going full Nazi twice didn't do it. All these assholes want is absolute power and they don't care who they stomp on to get it.

[paleotn]

25. In context?!

Centrist Republican group? Oh, that's rich. I wonder why Sununu and Scott stick with this ragged bunch of hucksters and neo-nazi trash? Time for them to leave the wretches like decent former Republicans have.

[Joinfortmill]

26. Mind-numbing

[republianmushroom]

27. looks like maybe Ms. Nancy has his along with Kevins.

[CitizenZero]

28. Donald Trump Is A Traitor

And so is everyone that supports him. He is a threat to our Democracy and our Constitutional order. The MAGA Fascists must be stopped at all costs.

[Strelnikov_]

29. "didn't want to be drawn into commenting on Donald Trump's recent call to suspend the Constitution"

Perfectly understandable.

[BOSSHOG]

30. Good thing Abraham Lincoln wanted to be "drawn into" the civil war.

[Kennah]

31. I mean they were willing to engage in insurrection, so why not

[truthisfreedom]

32. Good to see they're openly showing their disdain for the

Constitution of These United States.

Makes them easier to recognize.

[EndlessWire]

34. I thought they took an oath

to defend the Constitution, and yet this guy doesn't want to be inconvenienced with that oath.

I finally understood what Trump is doing with his opposition to that motion to extend the litigation by a week, after Cannon got kicked off the case. Had some help from Meidas Touch, who explained it all. He's just fishing for info on the redacted affidavit that supports the search warrant of MAL. They think it's so they can harass and discredit the witnesses once he finds out who they are.

I think, as well as most of you, that Trump is really feeling pressure from DOJ. He's running out of options. His delaying case disappears this week, although it is felt that he plans to appeal. So, I think that this blatant treasonous comment on tearing up the Constitution so HE can be, I guess King Donald, is an attempt to stir up trouble in a big way.

I am amazed that anyone buys the utter lie and revisionist history that Trump is peddling. That'll be his defense when Garland finally comes for him. If I were Donald, I'd run.

He always advertised his intentions, so I guess that if he were "elected" again, first thing he'd do is suspend the Constitution. Can't be clearer than that. People, we can't let him get reelected.

Please, G-d, make him go away.

[chriscan64]

35. 'the public wasn't "interested in looking backwards."'?

This occurred on Saturday. Will this congressman be uninterested in looking backwards when all the House investigations start?

[SouthernDem4ever]

36. The GOP just spits in the face of every soldier that died in WW2

Sickening. I hope those in the military are taking notice.

[malthaussen]

37. Of course it isn't

Shows what bullshit oaths are. Their only value is to provide a reason for prosecution if violated, but no one ever gets prosecuted, so there's no point.

In this case, Mr Joyce's own oath to protect the Constitution apparently does not conflict with the stated purpose of someone to overturn the Constitution. Utter stuff and nonsense.

-- Mal