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BumRushDaShow

(128,439 posts)
Wed Dec 7, 2022, 10:19 AM Dec 2022

Items with classified markings found at Trump storage unit in Florida

Source: Washington Post

Lawyers for Donald Trump found at least two items marked classified after an outside team hired by Trump searched a storage unit in West Palm Beach, Fla., used by the former president, according to people familiar with the matter. Those items were immediately turned over to the FBI, according to those people, who like others spoke on the condition of anonymity to discuss sensitive matters.

The search was one of at least three searches for classified materials conducted by an outside team at Trump properties in recent weeks, after Trump’s legal team was pressed by a federal judge to attest that it had fully complied with a May grand jury subpoena to turn over all materials bearing classified markings, according to people familiar with the matter.

There has been a lengthy and fierce battle between Trump’s attorneys and the Justice Department in a Washington federal court in recent weeks, according to people familiar with the matter. Much of the legal wrangling remains under seal by a federal judge, but people familiar with the matter say the Justice Department has raised concerns about what prosecutors view as a long-standing failure to fully comply with the May subpoena by Trump’s team.

Emails released by the General Services Administration, which assists former presidents during their transition to private life, show that the government agency helped rent the storage unit at a private facility in West Palm Beach on July 21, 2021. The unit was needed to store items that had been held at an office in Northern Virginia used by Trump staffers in the months just after he left office.

Read more: https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2022/12/07/trump-tower-bedminster-records-search/



Article updated.

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Original article/headline -

Trump team searches two of his properties amid court battle with DOJ

Lawyers for former president Donald Trump conducted a search of at least two of his properties for classified materials in recent weeks, after they were instructed by a federal judge to attest they had fully complied with a May grand jury subpoena to turn over all materials bearing classified markings, according to people familiar with the matter.

Trump's legal team hired an outside firm to carry out the search of his golf club in Bedminster, N.J., and, more recently, Trump Tower in New York, according to the people, who spoke on the condition of anonymity to discuss sensitive information.

The team also offered the FBI the opportunity to observe the search, but the offer was declined, the people said. It would be unusual for federal agents to monitor a search of someone's property conducted by anyone other than another law enforcement agency. Federal authorities have already searched Mar-a-Lago, Trump's primary residence, and he spends almost all of his time at those three properties, advisers say.

Trump's lawyers have told the Justice Department that the outside team did not turn up any new classified information during their search, according to people familiar with the process, and have said they utilized a firm that had expertise in searching for documents. A spokesman for the Justice Department declined to comment. A spokeswoman for the FBI declined to comment.


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ETA - let me add that I wouldn't be surprised if stuff was moved to some place close by - right under their noses in Sterling, VA. But none of them want that place to appear in print.





(there's one in Loudoun, VA too)
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Items with classified markings found at Trump storage unit in Florida (Original Post) BumRushDaShow Dec 2022 OP
Check the grave... Historic NY Dec 2022 #1
I was. Just going to post that! True Blue American Dec 2022 #3
First thing that popped in my head PatSeg Dec 2022 #22
It's underwater in the bay outside the gates bucolic_frolic Dec 2022 #2
Anyone search Ivana's grave? Sanity Claws Dec 2022 #4
Check the following places: Botany Dec 2022 #5
Trying to upstage... 2naSalit Dec 2022 #6
BUT when the evidence IS found, it shows more complicity in coverup. nt TigressDem Dec 2022 #7
It matters who finds it. 2naSalit Dec 2022 #9
True TigressDem Dec 2022 #10
Exactly Tigress DENVERPOPS Dec 2022 #25
Does the FBI, DOJ, and on and on, know which files are actually unaccounted for? Firestorm49 Dec 2022 #24
The concern is some were held back and some top secret folders were EMPTY TigressDem Dec 2022 #26
All right wing and republican roads lead to: DENVERPOPS Dec 2022 #27
But if the lawyers find something and conceal it, that's a crime. tinrobot Dec 2022 #32
That's some major CYA action right there Ray Bruns Dec 2022 #8
If they can't find it, no one can Marthe48 Dec 2022 #11
I wonder if it's the same crack team that looked for the birth certificate underpants Dec 2022 #13
lol Marthe48 Dec 2022 #19
You mean one commissioned by BumRushDaShow Dec 2022 #21
That's was the beginning of Trump's "two more weeks" I think underpants Dec 2022 #28
LOL BumRushDaShow Dec 2022 #29
Since May? 7 months? How sloppy is this guy? underpants Dec 2022 #12
I guess they're having his own people search because that worked so well last time. Scrivener7 Dec 2022 #14
OJ searching for his ex-wife's killer.. agingdem Dec 2022 #17
Yup. Scrivener7 Dec 2022 #18
I didn't understand why the DOJ did not get a warrant for a simultaneous search of all three Lonestarblue Dec 2022 #15
"I didn't understand why the DOJ did not get a warrant for a simultaneous search of all three..." BumRushDaShow Dec 2022 #23
Because, apparently, they had an informant at Mar-A-Lago tinrobot Dec 2022 #33
Because Trump is more important than US national security and the lives of Americans. Irish_Dem Dec 2022 #38
Check Mara Lago Raven123 Dec 2022 #16
And there are myriad places he could have hidden them there, plus - who knows were he's moved them?? Rhiannon12866 Dec 2022 #42
He owns many golf courses. chriscan64 Dec 2022 #20
Look under Jared's laptop Wicked Blue Dec 2022 #30
I remember when the drug dealer in my town was galloped to search his own property Orrex Dec 2022 #31
Check ivana's casket. truthisfreedom Dec 2022 #34
A bank robber searches his own property for stolen cash, and says nope, no cash here. Irish_Dem Dec 2022 #35
The setup. You are spot on. twodogsbarking Dec 2022 #36
Don't forget Melania's drawers! tanyev Dec 2022 #37
I just have to say quakerboy Dec 2022 #39
His previous lawyer(s) had no problem verifying that all classified material had been turned in. keithbvadu2 Dec 2022 #40
22 months and counting DoJ republianmushroom Dec 2022 #41

Botany

(70,447 posts)
5. Check the following places:
Wed Dec 7, 2022, 10:30 AM
Dec 2022

Putin's houses.



MBS' home

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and of course Ivana's grave

2naSalit

(86,323 posts)
6. Trying to upstage...
Wed Dec 7, 2022, 10:30 AM
Dec 2022

A possible search by actual authorities. You can't hire your own search team and call it evidence for prosecutors to use.

Desperation issues mistakes.

TigressDem

(5,125 posts)
10. True
Wed Dec 7, 2022, 10:42 AM
Dec 2022

But since FBI wasn't allowed in these spaces all this time, there is probably nothing to find there.

I agree that it's probably buried with Ivanna or destroyed or sold.

The rest of it is gone.

DENVERPOPS

(8,787 posts)
25. Exactly Tigress
Wed Dec 7, 2022, 11:42 AM
Dec 2022

Given the amount of time, (YEARS, not hours or days) it is probably stashed away in some country with no extradition, along with the fortune that family has grifted from the Public and U.S. Government.....that is how the Trump family and associates operate. Synonymous with the Mob.....

Firestorm49

(4,029 posts)
24. Does the FBI, DOJ, and on and on, know which files are actually unaccounted for?
Wed Dec 7, 2022, 11:35 AM
Dec 2022

If so, does the fact that no additional files have been discovered to date necessarily mean that they know that which documents were disposed of or sold to the highest bidder? Does the FBI know exactly which files they’re looking for or is it still an unknown?

The fact that missing files remain unaccounted for seems to corroborate corrupt intent. So then what? If the files can’t be found, where does the buck stop?

TigressDem

(5,125 posts)
26. The concern is some were held back and some top secret folders were EMPTY
Wed Dec 7, 2022, 11:43 AM
Dec 2022

So the FIRST Round of requests brought some boxes. ALL DONE said tRUMP's people.

Still missing a lot.

Round TWO - FBI at Mar A Lago found more and 100 docs were marked Top Secret and EMPTY folders marked TOP SECRET

SO still trying to find whatever was in those folders.


I guess this describes the situation where "Give them enough rope to hang themselves" came from.

When someone is guilty and trying to prove they aren't, so much of the time their attempts to prove a lie are so apparent that it's almost proof unto itself.

My divorce lawyer insisted I let her deal directly with my ex because he used to get abusive and manipulative with me. I was able to "handle it" but it upset me. I let her deal with him and so he tried that with her and she was able to document it and use it in my favor. Gotta love a good lawyer.



tinrobot

(10,885 posts)
32. But if the lawyers find something and conceal it, that's a crime.
Wed Dec 7, 2022, 12:37 PM
Dec 2022

At this point, I doubt any good lawyer would take that risk.

But then again, the "lawyers" employed by Trump aren't "good."

underpants

(182,603 posts)
12. Since May? 7 months? How sloppy is this guy?
Wed Dec 7, 2022, 10:47 AM
Dec 2022

The fact that they’ve been going on for 7 months is telling.

Scrivener7

(50,911 posts)
14. I guess they're having his own people search because that worked so well last time.
Wed Dec 7, 2022, 10:52 AM
Dec 2022


It never fucking ends.

Lonestarblue

(9,958 posts)
15. I didn't understand why the DOJ did not get a warrant for a simultaneous search of all three
Wed Dec 7, 2022, 10:53 AM
Dec 2022

properties. If documents were stored at the other two sites, they were destroyed by now or put in some other place, like Eric’s home or Jr.’s.

I may be mistaken, but I thought there was an article a few weeks back that the presidential records group was still missing a number of documents. Those may be the ones Trump flushed down the toilet.

BumRushDaShow

(128,439 posts)
23. "I didn't understand why the DOJ did not get a warrant for a simultaneous search of all three..."
Wed Dec 7, 2022, 11:30 AM
Dec 2022

Because not only does he have more than 3, he also has children who have their own domiciles where stuff could have been taken. And that pesky 4th Amendment requires a relatively explicit listing of "places to be searched" and "items to be seized".

I remember posting the below map probably under a year ago -



What happened with Mar-a-Lago was that they had "inside help" to determine what might be there and where to look for it, and that ended up on the search warrant. They also had agents visit and interview staff beforehand this past spring before the search and seizure happened in August.

tinrobot

(10,885 posts)
33. Because, apparently, they had an informant at Mar-A-Lago
Wed Dec 7, 2022, 12:40 PM
Dec 2022

They knew where to look and had a good idea what they would find.

A random search that comes up empty would not be good.

Orrex

(63,172 posts)
31. I remember when the drug dealer in my town was galloped to search his own property
Wed Dec 7, 2022, 12:24 PM
Dec 2022

Oh wait, no he wasn’t. He was held without bond pending trial, after cops had ransacked his home from roof to basement to find hidden cash, guns and drugs.

Of course, our legal system doesn’t favor the wealthy and powerful, and shame on anyone who suggests otherwise.

quakerboy

(13,916 posts)
39. I just have to say
Wed Dec 7, 2022, 02:15 PM
Dec 2022

If i were one of the banks holding notes on one of trumps various properties.. Id be strongly investigating any way to recoup my investment asap so I dont end up at the bottom of the list later.

keithbvadu2

(36,653 posts)
40. His previous lawyer(s) had no problem verifying that all classified material had been turned in.
Wed Dec 7, 2022, 02:34 PM
Dec 2022

His previous lawyer(s) had no problem verifying that all classified material had been turned in.

Of course, it was not the truth.

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