Hundreds Of Oath Keepers Have Worked for the Federal Government: Report

[demmiblue]

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Source: Rolling Stone

309 listed members of the extremist group reported having worked for various DHS agencies, including the Secret Service and Border Patrol

A leaked Oath Keepers membership list contained more that 300 individuals who claimed to have worked in the Department of Homeland Security, with some listing themselves as current employees, according to a new report from the Project on Government Oversight (POGO). 

The Oath Keepers are a far-right, anti-government group that purports to defend the Constitution and uphold the oath made by lawmakers and law enforcement to combat enemies both foreign and domestic who they view as posing a threat to constitutional order. 

The membership list contains the names of thousands of individuals recruited by the paramilitary group between its founding in 2009 and 2015, and was obtained by the transparency group Denial of Secrets in September of last year. Rolling Stone previously identified individuals on the list who held public office and who served on the NRA’s board of directors, as well as nearly 40 memberships that had been created using government domain emails. 

The lists demonstrate how the organization heavily courted members of the military, veterans, and law enforcement officials to bolster their ranks. According to POGO’s review, of the 309 listed members who reported having worked for various DHS agencies, including the Secret Service, Immigration and Customs Enforcement, Border Patrol, and Coast Guard, more than 90 percent had retired. 

Read more: https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-news/oath-keepers-worked-department-homeland-security-1234646005/

[Irish_Dem]

1. Many of these traitors are on the federal payroll.

Either still working or on some sort of federal pension.

So they are destroying the same government that pays their bills.
And gives them many perks and benefits.

[orthoclad]

32. A lot of civil "servants"

on the Federal payroll spent their day watching Rush Limbaugh on Federal computers during working hours. First Amendment right, or something.

There's a heavy reich-wing unproductive presence in the work force, and they're just dying to be persecuted, like the Christians in Rome (at least until Constantine made it the state religion). They love having a victim status.

Then they complain about liberal freeloaders. You know, the ones who do their work for them.

(not to dis the civil service -- as a whole, it produces lifesaving work)

[Irish_Dem]

34. Job security, good steady pay, great health care and retirement.

They take it all for granted and have no idea what life is like for most of their fellow Americans.

And somehow their privilege makes them feel like victims.

[orthoclad]

36. It ties in with their conception of Christianity

Lions, Colosseum, etc, etc

[Irish_Dem]

37. Yes Americans do seem to enjoy watching the deaths of other Americans.

-Covid Deaths
-Gun Deaths
-Lack of Health care and high prescription costs.
-Pregnant women/children who cannot get access proper health care.

[orthoclad]

38. Nothing triggers like death

Ask Elmo. He expected his workers to risk death to build cars.

[Irish_Dem]

39. Yes there is this sadistic, cruel streak running rampant now in the US.

From GOP politicians and oligarchs down to their flying monkeys.

[marble falls]

2. And a large portion of them are retired. Too bad if we can't grab their pensions ...

... they have no problem taking a check from their enemy.

[markodochartaigh]

22. I don't think that we should establish

any precedent for stopping pensions. The Republicans would be very happy to hear this. I do think that pensions should be suspended while someone is in prison. And I think that anyone who tried to stop the counting of the electoral votes so that their candidate could stay in power against the laws of the US should get a far, far, far longer prison sentence than someone who steal a candy bar three separate times while carrying a knife.

[Botany]

3. A lot of them along with the Proud Boys, Patriot Front, 3%er, White Lives Matter, and so on ...

... have been or are still in law enforcement and the military too.

[electric_blue68]

7. Ugh! It's awful!

[orthoclad]

33. "Some that wear badges

also burn crosses"
It goes way back. US law enforcement was largely created to control the slave labor. That's the "militia" in the 2WhiteA.

Reich wingers are fans of control and dominance. The idea of being legally empowered to carry weapons and use lethal really appeals to them. Plus there' something about uniforms. The 3rd Reich had snappy uniforms.

That's in addition to the planned and coordinated infiltration of the military and LEO.

[dalton99a]

4. They are traitors to the United States.

[ancianita]

5. Thousands in the services who would commit violence against Americans -- it's vigilantism.

VERY glad there is a list of their names -- -- military, veterans, and law enforcement -- who would commit off-duty violence, goddammit.

And THIS bullshit "red tape" excuse is the excuse that is no excuse.

A March report by the DHS found that the “department has significant gaps that have impeded its ability to comprehensively prevent, detect, and respond to potential threats related to domestic violent extremism within DHS.” The department went on to say that those shortfalls have likely “impacted DHS officials’ ability to adequately identify and address related threats.”

"significant gaps" and "those shortfalls " my ass. If you signed off on that report, what have you done about those gaps and shortfalls, Mayorkas?

[McKim]

19. In Vietnam Days

In Vietnam days we called it “Bringing the war home.” Our tax dollars have trained untold numbers of professional soldiers and now they walk among us. No wonder we have all this violence!

[markodochartaigh]

23. As did Thucydides

in Athens after the oligarchic coup in 411 BC. Chris Hedges says that the tyranny that they sowed abroad was, in the end, brought home.

[ancianita]

25. Yes. But

understanding it that way then doesn't make any of this okay now, today.

[70sEraVet]

6. The list contains the names of members only between 2009 and 2015!

So there's 8 more years of recruitment that are unaccounted for -- and four of those years with tfg in office, by far their best recruiter!
So, how many are in federal jobs ( or elected office) now??
Something we NEED to know!

[BaronChocula]

8. Sounds like Paul Ryan and Kevin McCarwreck

Both anti-government crusaders who spent their entire adult careers on the gubmint payroll.

[plimsoll]

12. I believe you mean

Cavin McCarthy.

[LiberalFighter]

9. This is why there needs to be a national law enforcement database.

It would keep tabs on those that violate policies and laws. And be used to determine whether county or state law enforcement agencies would receive federal funding and at what level. If they don't meet specific standards it would be reduced.

[Trueblue1968]

10. FIRE THEM ALL #LockThemUp!!!!!!

[ancianita]

11. Here are the DDOS list links by state, but you have to subscribe to get to the link names.

A GOP chair in WY.
Dozens of TN officials.
Dozens of PA police.
Hundreds across New Jersey.
133 with ties to the U.S. Military
300 NY names.
Thousands in Texas.

Many joining after Jan 6.



https://ddosecrets.com/wiki/Oath_Keepers

[wnylib]

17. Thanks for pointing out the

300 in NY. People who do not live in NY think of us as a very blue state. We are blue because of NYC, Buffalo, and a small handful of small cities.

But the rural areas and villages of NY are solidly red. A few small towns are purplish.

RWers are pushing hard to flip NY to red and are making progress as the midterms showed us. This is a Democratic crisis, IMO. If we don't act locally in NY, with national party help, we will lose NY to the RW.

[ancianita]

26. Sure.

Not to mention NH and PA. I worry about NY, especially, since it's the financial center of the world. Moves are being made on Gov. Hochul that turn my stomach.

[onecaliberal]

13. None of these people should be allowed to work in a government they don't believe in,

and are actively trying to overthrow. Especially the ones who talk about how they would have killed their colleagues.

[ancianita]

27. And so it leads us to ask, where are the laws the DOJ and states can work with when this happens.

Probably not in place. And then again, these people have the freedom to work in institutions they don't believe in, and even talk about violence, don't they? Private sector can fire them. The public sector, not so much.

[Hekate]

14. Recruited 2009-2015. Gods they must have hated that Black man w the heat of 1000 suns

I used to pray almost daily that he wouldn’t be assassinated. They would have hated Hillary as much.

Damn them all

[msfiddlestix]

20. Yeppers, that's the marker which keeps coming up over and over again,

Obama's presidency was so egregious to theses racists pigsin the military, in law enforcement and elsewhere

[FakeNoose]

40. Probably the Tea Party recruited them, that's my guess

Then they migrated over to Oath Keepers, because gunz and craziness.

[EarthFirst]

15. ...and tens of thousands of LEO's with sympathies lying with the Oath Keepers...

There’s a plague running among individuals of authority in our nation that is filled with hate and contempt for the Constitution and a Democratic society.

We need a purge of these individuals from positions of authority before it’s far too late!

[Fiendish Thingy]

16. So, Biden needs to issue an EO...

Any members of OK’s, PB’s and 3%ers shall immediately lose their security clearances and be demoted/terminated.

[ancianita]

28. Sounds like an overriding of his cabinet and agency heads, though, doesn't it?

[Fiendish Thingy]

29. He's head of the executive branch isn't he? Nt

[ancianita]

30. He is. But doing this could easily be politicized as some form of unitary executive move. Just sayin

There are existing processes that his cabinet and agency heads already have to enact in order to root out these people.

If this kind of E.O. were a thing in government, and not just someone's opinion here, such things would reach the public. If/when you find any other sources that say he can do this, please link.

I'd be surprised to see Pres. Biden sign such an order, at least right away. He'd have to confer with his cabinet and agency heads, first, don't you think?

[bluevoter4life]

18. Typical right-winger

Hate the government....until that same government pays their mortgage. Hypocrites. All of them.

[Joinfortmill]

21. Not surprised.

[CitizenZero]

24. Rooting Out Fascists

It is important to root Fascists out of Government. Especially Law Enforcement, Military, Homeland Security, and any other Agency. I think that Congress should set up a Commission or Agency dedicated to getting Right Wing Terrorists out of Government, Military, and Law Enforcement. Unfortunately we are losing control of the House in a few weeks so this is not likely soon. We live in dangerous times.

[Grins]

31. "... more than 90 percent had retired."

And so 90% should lose their retirement. And their health coverage.

Man!!!! Just look at all the money we’re saving!

Thanks, Trump!

[Prairie_Seagull]

35. IMO, first desigate legally the proud boys and others "domestic terrorist groups"

Then due to their Oath to protect and defend against foreign and domestic adversaries. FIRE Their ASSES.

Further, they could more easily be added to no fly lists among other things that should, I stress should, make one think prior to ever joining these terrorist groups.

[Omaha Steve]

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