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[rightsideout]

13. I think the investigation has more to do with national security and to prevent potential bribery

When a high level fed gets in a situation like this there is a potential for him to be the victim of bribery or extortion. And since the mistress in question had access to the general . . . LOL . . . there's a potential for national security interests to be at risk. This is why the FBI is involved. More to prevent extortion and to protect national security then to find criminal involvement. But who knows where this could lead.

[Gin]

2. Betrayus and Jill resemble each other. IMO

[aletier_v]

3. Yeah, the more I read on this, the more I think Broadwell FORWARDED

threatening emails to Kelley, asking for help.

[Justice]

6. help with what? forwarded what emails?

[aletier_v]

8. I think somebody threatened Broadwell, to expose the affair

Who can she talk to about it?

Not her husband.
Patraeus himself? She's already gotten him into serious trouble.

Kelley is a "close friend", ergo she probably already knows about the affair.

And splish-splash, Kelley's sister is a lawyer who deals with whistleblowers.

Broadwell forwards the threats to Kelley and asks for advice.

This makes a lot more sense to me.

[Justice]

5. Do we know whether Kelley knew the emails were coming from Broadwell?

I feel as if the emails were anonymous and that is why Kelley went to the FBI.

I also think Kelley had no idea about Paula being Petraeus' mistress.

If Paula named herself in the emails, and Jill was close to Petraeus, Jill could have just asked Petraeus to intervene (because Jill would have known Paula was the biographer of Petraeus' book). Jill would not have wanted to hurt Petraeus.

[gateley]

28. One report I heard said the emails were anonymous.

[HooptieWagon]

7. Federal crime to send threatening emails across state lines...

which is how the FBI got involved.
As to Jill Kelley and David Petreaus, my understanding is the two families are friends. Don't know if anything more. David Petreaus headed CentCom, which is HQ'd at MacDill AFB in Tampa. Jill Kelley is a Social Liason at the base, I don't know what that job entails, but thats likely how the families met. Kelley's husband is a Tampa surgeon.
Petreaus likely resigned to preserve rank and pension, possibly would have lost them in a court-martial. Broadwell likely faces court-martial if her case ends up there rather than civilian court. Probably faces harsher charges and penalties in military court.

[aletier_v]

12. at this point, I believe the affair was well known within their circle

an accepted situation by everyone involved.

an outsider, i.e. potential blackmailer, probably wouldn't know that, though.

[Festivito]

10. Something's afoot, like trying to keep Spitzer from getting an admin job.

I just hope someone considers Dennis Kucinich for head of CIA. That would be a cleanup of epic proportion.

[Bumblebee]

19. That's a joke

Right?

[Festivito]

29. But, I'm laughing because I like it so much.

Something is going on behind the scenes concerning the mistresses and I can't seem to find some solid ground just yet.

[SoapBox]

11. And there was a post today about Cantor being told about the harassing emails...

and then his office went to the FBI.

So what was up with that story?

[aletier_v]

14. Yes, this makes more sense to me

Somebody tried to blackmail Broadwell because they knew Patraeus would shut them down immediately,
they figured she'd be weaker.

They tried to get Benghazi info or some such out of her.

She forwarded the email to Kelley, etc, etc.

[aletier_v]

21. I disagree. I think the overall behavior says the affair was known

That's how these things go.
Everybody looks the other way.

http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/petraeus-told-friends-affair-paula-broadwell-began-left/story?id=17693092#.UKB_e-TAdKU

"The affair between Gen. Petraeus and Broadwell, both of whom are married, began several months after his retirement from the army in August 2011".

"People close to the general had previously suspected Broadwell's feelings for him had crossed a professional line"

Ha.
I Knew it.
Part of it was leaving a known environment (military).

[aletier_v]

24. I agree. Something bigger is going on and it's not Benghazi coverup

Somebody tried to blackmail Patraeus or Broadwell.

They're twisted the story around to avoid talking about it,
because it's most certainly associated with Rove or Romney people.

That's my current assessment.
I admit, I could be wrong but that's how I read this so far.

[alcibiades_mystery]

15. Looks like a bunch of folks riding Uncle Sugar's gravy train

I wonder why the right wing never get pissed off at this cohort of freeloaders.

[Zen Democrat]

18. The FBI was investigating the Benghazi attack from the beginning. It happened 2 months ago tonight.

The FBI investigation regarding Paula Broadwell has been going on for a couple of months. Now I hear the FBI found classified information on her computer. I find it hard to believe that all of it isn't in the same milieu.

[left on green only]

20. I really like their hippy beads........

.......or do you suppose that the photo could have been taken in New Orleans during Mardi Gras?

[ronnie624]

32. They're standing on the Kelley's front lawn in Tampa, watching a Gasparilla parade,

according to an NY Daily News article in post #22.

[funkhowser1]

33. Gasparilla

Tampa's version of Mardi Gras. Allows all the rich bankers and business men to dress as pirates and "invade" and take over Tampa. Gives them an excuse to start drinking at 7:am and walk the streets shooting off blanks and mini cannons. Beads and women flashing for beads is part of the "tradition".

[Sophiegirl]

23. My 2 cents...

To me, this isn't as cloak and dagger as people are speculating. The woman in question, who recieved the emails, is a U.S. State Department liaison to the military's Joint Special Operations Command.

With my knowledge and understanding of the senior levels of government, it makes little sense to me that this woman would initiate an FBI investigation if she were "intimately" involved with Patreaus. It would be political suicide. Additionally, if there was some kind of cover up over Benghazi, the very LAST thing a State Department liaison would subject herself to is an FBI investigation.

IMHO - this Broadwell woman was well off the jealousy cliff and made a huge mistake threatening a State Department liaison to the Joint Special Ops Command. Seriously? I would not, in any shape or form, send someone with a connection to this agency ANY type of threatening message to.

From what I have read, Broadwell sent harassing messages to Ms. Kelley "anonymously" but after contacting the FBI, the messages were traced back to Broadwell. That led to the connection to Petreaus.

I don't believe there is some grand conspiracy here.

Two things:

1. I would like to know the contents of the emails.

and...

2. I want to know if anyone else thinks that "Broadwell" and her book "All In" are both unfortunate names considering the circumstances.

[aletier_v]

25. According to Patraeus, the affair had ended

The timing here is all wrong, too.

Too close to the election to be coincidence,
but the original FBI investigation is floating around for over two months?

We're not getting the full story, I'm pretty sure of that.

I think somebody tried to blackmail Broadwell,
and introduced this "FBI whistleblower" to make good on the threat.

[aletier_v]

27. Yes, the story doesn't hold together.

She's in Tampa, their relationship is pre-Paula,
and he's in DC anyway.

Cover story doesn't work for me.

OMG, I just realized, I drove by the CIA headquarters two weeks ago,
I'm new to the area and didn't realize where it was.

[Mojorabbit]

31. I agree. Something is really off about the official story. nt

[JI7]

30. Broadwell kind of reminds me of that piece of Shit Rielle Hunter

Rielle Hunter would get jealous and do things like tip off media to the affair and other things. she is having an affair with a married man yet she felt wronged .

[muriel_volestrangler]

34. Locking - duplicate thread

of http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1014&pid=300682 . Please continue discussion there. Thanks.